The official "Jeremy Pruitt has been fired" WATCH THREAD.

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I swear if something happens and the jets just fired Gase... it would be a Tennessee move. Ol’ Crazy eyes to the hill.
*Take this with humor
 
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It’s because the agent for the tight ends coach at Lower Tennessee State Junior College is playing hard ball.

My sources are telling me they are close. Should know more tomorrow.
 
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I know it’s been discussed to a ridiculous amount but last night i just kept thinking we’re likely keeping a HC that just went 3-7 in his 3rd year, insanity!! Auburn/Texas fired coaches with winning records and we likely keep ours with a terrible losing record. I guess the world is flat🙄
 
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74charger said:
I know it’s been discussed to a ridiculous amount but last night i just kept thinking we’re likely keeping a HC that just went 3-7 in his 3rd year, insanity!! Auburn/Texas fired coaches with winning records and we likely keep ours with a terrible losing record. I guess the world is flat🙄
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Folks say 3-7 like it can be compared to normal years' results.

Try 6-6. That's what this year's results would likely be if you took away one Power 5 opponent and added three cupcake games. No guarantee, but that's the most likely translation to normal years.

Don't get me wrong, 6-6 is not good. In year three, a good coach is not getting 6-6 results. Jeremy Pruitt & Co failed this season.

But don't get too enamored of the way 3-7 sounds. It's too misleading.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
Folks say 3-7 like it can be compared to normal years' results.

Try 6-6. That's what this year's results would likely be if you took away one Power 5 opponent and added three cupcake games. No guarantee, but that's the most likely translation to normal years.

Don't get me wrong, 6-6 is not good. In year three, a good coach is not getting 6-6 results. Jeremy Pruitt & Co failed this season.

But don't get too enamored of the way 3-7 sounds. It's too misleading.
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3-7 is terrible no matter the context. Especially when it includes losing to Arkansas and getting walloped by Kentucky.
 
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Johnny Majors' Ghost said:
3-7 is terrible no matter the context. Especially when it includes losing to Arkansas and getting walloped by Kentucky.
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Losing to Kentucky and Arkansas, absolutely agree. Those were absolute failures by our team. No disagreement.

But in a normal year, those two games are the difference between 6-6 and 8-4. Not 3-7 and 5-5.

Just trying to keep things in context. If we're going to compare 2020, in all its weirdness, to other years, we have to be able to fit it in contextually.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
Folks say 3-7 like it can be compared to normal years' results.

Try 6-6. That's what this year's results would likely be if you took away one Power 5 opponent and added three cupcake games. No guarantee, but that's the most likely translation to normal years.

Don't get me wrong, 6-6 is not good. In year three, a good coach is not getting 6-6 results. Jeremy Pruitt & Co failed this season.

But don't get too enamored of the way 3-7 sounds. It's too misleading.
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21+ point blowouts are not misleading. 6 double digit blowouts are not misleading.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
Folks say 3-7 like it can be compared to normal years' results.

Try 6-6. That's what this year's results would likely be if you took away one Power 5 opponent and added three cupcake games. No guarantee, but that's the most likely translation to normal years.

Don't get me wrong, 6-6 is not good. In year three, a good coach is not getting 6-6 results. Jeremy Pruitt & Co failed this season.

But don't get too enamored of the way 3-7 sounds. It's too misleading.
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It’s not misleading. We went 3-7. We weren’t the only team dealing with unusual circumstances. Arkansas and their first year coach were too, and they still beat Pruitt in his 3rd year. Kentucky came into neyland and dominated the vols. Every team we played was dealing with the same stuff, fact is we went 3-7 and lost most in blowout fashion. Youre what if game is stupid. You can proclaim how the vols would’ve had 3 more wins if we played a normal schedule, but your just assuming. Did you assume the vols would beat a cupcake like Georgia state? Pruitt managed to lead us to a big loss there, so not sure why you think you can just write off teams as wins.
 
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onevol74 said:
21+ point blowouts are not misleading. 6 double digit blowouts are not misleading.
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In an age when the #1, #2, #3, and #4 teams in the land routinely beat each other by around 21 points (see: last six years' worth of CFP semi-final games, average margin of victory 21 points), I'm not sure "blowout" is defined today the way it was 20 years ago. Or even 10.

The offense is king now in college football. Games end with wider margins, even between teams close to the same skill level.

How many of those 7 losses were blowouts? That's going to be in the eye of the beholder. But if you can point to one or two key plays that swung the score by 15-20 points, and the margin of victory was 15-20 points, it probably wasn't a blowout.
 
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615vols said:
It’s not misleading. We went 3-7. We weren’t the only team dealing with unusual circumstances. Arkansas and their first year coach were too, and they still beat Pruitt in his 3rd year. Kentucky came into neyland and dominated the vols. Every team we played was dealing with the same stuff, fact is we went 3-7 and lost most in blowout fashion. Youre what if game is stupid. You can proclaim how the vols would’ve had 3 more wins if we played a normal schedule, but your just assuming. Did you assume the vols would beat a cupcake like Georgia state? Pruitt managed to lead us to a big loss there, so not sure why you think you can just write off teams as wins.
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You talk as if Arkansas didn't itself go 3-7 in conference this season, and Kentucky didn't go 4-6. Heck, Mizzou went 5-5, but we beat them.

In a normal year, every one of those teams likely has 3 more wins and one less loss.

I'm not saying we did well in 2020. We absolutely did not. But folks throw "3-7" around like it's comparable to the year we went 0-8 in conference, 4-8 over all. 3-7 in 2020 is a helluva lot better than the 4-8 season Butch ended on.

We're not where we want to be. We did take a step back this year. The Kentucky game was an abject failure for the orange and white. Jeremy & Co did fail in 2020. I'm not disagreeing with any of that. But you gotta put 3-7 in context.
 
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74charger said:
I know it’s been discussed to a ridiculous amount but last night i just kept thinking we’re likely keeping a HC that just went 3-7 in his 3rd year, insanity!! Auburn/Texas fired coaches with winning records and we likely keep ours with a terrible losing record. I guess the world is flat🙄
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And yet you bring it up again. Unless the investigation finds something major, he is our coach next year. It might work. I just won $3 on my scratch offs that I paid $5 for. See I came out ahead.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
You talk as if Arkansas didn't itself go 3-7 in conference this season, and Kentucky didn't go 4-6. Heck, Mizzou went 5-5, but we beat them.

In a normal year, every one of those teams likely has 3 more wins and one less loss.

I'm not saying we did well in 2020. We absolutely did not. But folks throw "3-7" around like it's comparable to the year we went 0-8 in conference, 4-8 over all. 3-7 in 2020 is a helluva lot better than the 4-8 season Butch ended on.

We're not where we want to be. We did take a step back this year. The Kentucky game was an abject failure for the orange and white. Jeremy & Co did fail in 2020. I'm not disagreeing with any of that. But you gotta put 3-7 in context.
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No, I know how Arkansas and Kentucky finished. And they both still beat us handily, one with a first year head coach. You can keep saying put 3-7 into context, but it really doesn’t matter. The reality is we’re losing to Arkansas, Kentucky, Georgia states of the world and we aren’t even competitive against Georgia, Florida, or bama. Pruitt is a terrible coach. Just stop with the excuses already, it’s pathetic.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
Folks say 3-7 like it can be compared to normal years' results.

Try 6-6. That's what this year's results would likely be if you took away one Power 5 opponent and added three cupcake games. No guarantee, but that's the most likely translation to normal years.

Don't get me wrong, 6-6 is not good. In year three, a good coach is not getting 6-6 results. Jeremy Pruitt & Co failed this season.

But don't get too enamored of the way 3-7 sounds. It's too misleading.
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It’s not JUST the 7 losses, it is also the disgraceful margins in those losses. You could maybe make an argument that 3 and 7 in a strange year was just bad breaks if we had actually been in the game in some of those losses. The team clearly and indefensibly regressed to a catastrophic degree this season and there is no excuse or spin that can be applied to make it bearable. This was unambiguous incompetence at its most obvious manifestation.
 
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vol1981 said:
If you're not CJP himself, you must be a clone.
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You seem not to understand.

I'm not defending Jeremy Pruitt. I'm defending our football team. I don't find it interesting, or amusing, or fun in any way when people on our own fan boards make fun of our own team. Call me crazy.

See, being a fan is supposed to be about being biased. Biased in FAVOR of your own team, not against it. Looking for ways to say good things about the team, not bad things. Building it up where possible, rather than tearing it down. Not the coach. The team, the program.

I'm not saying you and others who make fun of the hardships we hit this season aren't Tennessee fans (though a surprising number of folks here aren't). I'm just saying you've forgotten how to be biased in FAVOR of the VOLS.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
Maybe once a year.

Not on a daily basis. Not fun at all, when it's our own program we're roasting.
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The school could put a stop to such ridicule instantly by simply fixing the product on the field. Don’t complain that people are laughing at you when you are actually putting on a clown show.
 
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