The Liberal Argument for a Higher Minimum Wage

Meh, I used to be of the mindset that we don't need a minimum wage, but I'm beginning to move away from that. The reason why is that we have foreigners and illegals that would undercut local/domestic labor.
Many if not most of them work under the table anyway. Not sure how much that would help.
 
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Too many people going to college to earn useless degrees. Trade schools would serve most of them much better.
I agree. I used to live in a city where it was seen as a viable option and many pursued it successfully. I also dealt with plumbing/mechanical contractors for years and saw how a little knowledge and hustle could really pay off
 
Everybody wants a degree , nobody wants to get their hands dirty . This is the path we are on and it’s a sad one .
I had a degree and still spent many weekends working with a plumbing contractor learning how the job worked since that was my industry. I want going to be setting sinks and toilets forever but I sure didn't miss any parts when I was quoting jobs years later
 
I had a degree and still spent many weekends working with a plumbing contractor learning how the job worked since that was my industry. I want going to be setting sinks and toilets forever but I sure didn't miss any parts when I was quoting jobs years later
How dare you look down your nose at us from your porcelain tower.
 
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One of the best programs out there for trying to teach people a trade and to get them to understand that not every degree is worth the money you pay for it . A liberal arts degree for example would be used to wipe off the grease so you could see how to fix your car or trucks problem without being charged $90 an hour if they look under the hood .
 
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One of the best programs out there for trying to teach people a trade and to get them to understand that not every degree is worth the money you pay for it . A liberal arts degree for example would be used to wipe off the grease so you could see how to fix your car or trucks problem without being charged $90 an hour if they look under the hood .

Sad fact is there are hardly any mechanics left, most "auto techs" can't figure out what's wrong without the computer telling them.
 
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Why? Are we going to pay companies to find out who is legal and isn't? Should it not be a felony to accept payment from and illegal?
There is no one size fits all solution to this. However, there are companies that knowingly hire illegals. Start there. If a company hires an illegal with false credentials, that is not their fault and should not be culpable, but the illegal at that point should go to prison or at a minimum, dropped off in El Salvador. Step 2.
 
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Sad fact is there are hardly any mechanics left, most "auto techs" can't figure out what's wrong without the computer telling them.
You won't even need them in a few years. Just boot up your laptop or 'phone' and the mother ship at Tesla will fix it via bluetooth.
 
The only way to deal with illegal immigration is to make hiring and renting to illegals a felony punishable by prison time for the bosses.

That won’t work they will hire bosses to take a fall if they get caught . Make the fines so high that it gets the companies attention and a law saying all penalties must go to pay down the National debt only along with a public list of companies and its CEOs that have helped pay down that debt for the year .
 
There is no one size fits all solution to this. However, there are companies that knowingly hire illegals. Start there. If a company hires an illegal with false credentials, that is not their fault and should not be culpable, but the illegal at that point should go to prison or at a minimum, dropped off in El Salvador. Step 2.
That should be about step 5. Also, what do you think will happen when that labor leaves?
 
Sad fact is there are hardly any mechanics left, most "auto techs" can't figure out what's wrong without the computer telling them.

“ we can’t get it to do what you say it’s doing come back next Tuesday and we will hook it up again on the diagnostic machine “
Yep I know
 
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