The Jarrett Guarantano hate

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XknoxvolsX said:
It dumbfounds me to read all of this hate over a kid. First, this is a kid. He may legally and technically be a man but still, he is just a kid. Not only that, but he is doing something productive such as going to college to get an education and, though I don't know anything about his or his parents financial abilities, football is providing an avenue for him to do so. Just how many of you negative posters actually have an investment into the University such as a degree, donor, booster or played football for the University? Or, are you just a fan? Second, I remember reading on this forum several years ago how many of you thought he was going to be the next biggest thing since Peyton. Third, and to me most importantly, how many of you haters have or could be an SEC starting QB? Even with as bad of a team as we currently have, how many of you posters that continuously dog him out could even make the team as a walk on much less supplant him as the starting QB?

Granted, there may be more or other options at QB but most of the posters on here are personally attacking a kid. Now, I know I'm going to get flamed for this but what is wrong with ya'll?
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I've not said anything against his character, or him as a person. He sucks playing qb, period. When even the announcers are saying it nicely, its a problem. You fan boys just gonna have to get over that he's not a good qb.
 
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It sucks for the kid. He had to go through 4 coordinators in four years and on top of that, didn’t improve much over the four years(that’s on the revolving door of QB coaches for not doing their job). That being said, the coaches have no incentive to put their worst QB. I hate to say it but I think he’s our best choice at tho point, which is really saying something.
 
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XknoxvolsX said:
It dumbfounds me to read all of this hate over a kid. First, this is a kid. He may legally and technically be a man but still, he is just a kid. Not only that, but he is doing something productive such as going to college to get an education and, though I don't know anything about his or his parents financial abilities, football is providing an avenue for him to do so. Just how many of you negative posters actually have an investment into the University such as a degree, donor, booster or played football for the University? Or, are you just a fan? Second, I remember reading on this forum several years ago how many of you thought he was going to be the next biggest thing since Peyton. Third, and to me most importantly, how many of you haters have or could be an SEC starting QB? Even with as bad of a team as we currently have, how many of you posters that continuously dog him out could even make the team as a walk on much less supplant him as the starting QB?

Granted, there may be more or other options at QB but most of the posters on here are personally attacking a kid. Now, I know I'm going to get flamed for this but what is wrong with ya'll?
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Great kid but average QB
 
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He is a tough kid who has given a lot of his body as a Vol. So personal attacks against him are truly unworthy. Unfortunately, however, his all doesnt seem to be enough. He just alawys seems a step too slow, has lazer eyes and has insufficient awareness in space. I just dont see how he gets a lot better if you have Tee and Weinke on the team and still you arent reaching an SEC capable level.
 
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I’m sorry but there are A LOT of little things JG is not doing that he DOES have 100% control over. Many of his mistakes are things any above average athlete (which he is at a minimum), who works hard everyday and gets plenty of game experience WILL improve on. And he isn’t. I mean really little things that are so important...have you seen how bad he is when he hands the ball off at selling the fake that he might still have the ball?! Just watch it. He hands the ball off and rolls out watching the RB and not even tucking his hands by his stomach. Any defensive player won’t even pause for a .10 of a second with him.

He is NOT good and he is NOT improving. And Pruitt is doing him a real disservice for life development for him to keep letting him hurt a collective group of people’s chances at being successful.

Kids grow up wanting to be a leader like a QB. You get tons of limelight and the chance to be the face of an entire team. But you don’t get to have all that potential good stuff and avoid the potential bad. Sit him. Now. And the crap he gets from fans, media, etc is shouldered by him and the coaches for keeping him starting.
 
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To the tune of CCR's "Stuck in Lodi Again"

Just about three years ago,
Butch set out for the road.
Seekin' five star hearts and fortune.
Lookin' for a quarterback of gold.
Things got bad and things got worse.
I guess you know the tune.
Oh no. The QB from Lodi again.

Nothing personal. He just can't play the game at this level.
 
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HendricksonT182 said:
What baffles me is that Jarrett Guarantano was a Dual threat QB coming out of high school, a highly rated one at that, haven't seen any of the scrambling ability he supposedly has.
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He can't even step up in the pocket. Maybe pruitt should tell him to throw to the open DBs and maybe he will actually hit the receivers. Use reverse psychology on a kid who majored in psychology. 😏
 
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Gandalf said:
He is a tough kid who has given a lot of his body as a Vol. So personal attacks against him are truly unworthy. Unfortunately, however, his all doesnt seem to be enough. He just alawys seems a step too slow, has lazer eyes and has insufficient awareness in space. I just dont see how he gets a lot better if you have Tee and Weinke on the team and still you arent reaching an SEC capable level.
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Not to mention access to Peyton Manning. Good grief.
 
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XknoxvolsX said:
It dumbfounds me to read all of this hate over a kid. First, this is a kid. He may legally and technically be a man but still, he is just a kid. Not only that, but he is doing something productive such as going to college to get an education and, though I don't know anything about his or his parents financial abilities, football is providing an avenue for him to do so. Just how many of you negative posters actually have an investment into the University such as a degree, donor, booster or played football for the University? Or, are you just a fan? Second, I remember reading on this forum several years ago how many of you thought he was going to be the next biggest thing since Peyton. Third, and to me most importantly, how many of you haters have or could be an SEC starting QB? Even with as bad of a team as we currently have, how many of you posters that continuously dog him out could even make the team as a walk on much less supplant him as the starting QB?

Granted, there may be more or other options at QB but most of the posters on here are personally attacking a kid. Now, I know I'm going to get flamed for this but what is wrong with ya'll?
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Exactly how long do you think the football program would last if fans stopped coming to games and donating money to the university? Your arguments of "who does this or could you do that" is completely invalid. Some of us have been there and played on that field, donated to that program, went to that university and still support it. Some are just fans but that doesn't diminish their opinions either. Being a student athlete on a full ride means you are there to get an education and also perform in your sport. If you are not good enough you should be replaced. It has nothing to do with how hard someone tries or what kind of student they are or even what their financial situation is at home. You play as hard as you can and if that is not good enough next man up. Life is hard and the sooner "kids" learn that the better off they will be.
 
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OP’s thoughts are kinda silly but JG isn’t the problem with the program. The problem is Jeremy Pruitt. He’s the guy making $4M/year
 
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If JG is so ****** how the hell could Pruitt not find someone better so far then? He’s been on the job for 21 months. If JG is that bad, and nobody is better than him, than blame Pruitt for not being able to get someone better.
 
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XknoxvolsX said:
It dumbfounds me to read all of this hate over a kid. First, this is a kid. He may legally and technically be a man but still, he is just a kid. Not only that, but he is doing something productive such as going to college to get an education and, though I don't know anything about his or his parents financial abilities, football is providing an avenue for him to do so. Just how many of you negative posters actually have an investment into the University such as a degree, donor, booster or played football for the University? Or, are you just a fan? Second, I remember reading on this forum several years ago how many of you thought he was going to be the next biggest thing since Peyton. Third, and to me most importantly, how many of you haters have or could be an SEC starting QB? Even with as bad of a team as we currently have, how many of you posters that continuously dog him out could even make the team as a walk on much less supplant him as the starting QB?

Granted, there may be more or other options at QB but most of the posters on here are personally attacking a kid. Now, I know I'm going to get flamed for this but what is wrong with ya'll?
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If this message board forces you to run and stand on your self righteous soapbox, then you should really stay away from Twitter.
 
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XknoxvolsX said:
It dumbfounds me to read all of this hate over a kid. First, this is a kid. He may legally and technically be a man but still, he is just a kid. Not only that, but he is doing something productive such as going to college to get an education and, though I don't know anything about his or his parents financial abilities, football is providing an avenue for him to do so. Just how many of you negative posters actually have an investment into the University such as a degree, donor, booster or played football for the University? Or, are you just a fan? Second, I remember reading on this forum several years ago how many of you thought he was going to be the next biggest thing since Peyton. Third, and to me most importantly, how many of you haters have or could be an SEC starting QB? Even with as bad of a team as we currently have, how many of you posters that continuously dog him out could even make the team as a walk on much less supplant him as the starting QB?

Granted, there may be more or other options at QB but most of the posters on here are personally attacking a kid. Now, I know I'm going to get flamed for this but what is wrong with ya'll?
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For me at least, it is far from personal. I'm happy he has his degree. I'm sorry that he just cannot do the mental part of being a good college QB. I truly wish it were different for him, the team, and us fans.

But the simple fact of the matter is that he chose to be on that stage.

I've been consistent in my criticisms. I'm not "special" but I do know enough about football to have seen his problems. The last two OC's protected him. That's why his "stats" were so "good"... without being productive. Chaney has tried to push him to do more from a mental and decision making standpoint. Pruitt according to the announcers has tried to coach him to just make the plays that are there. He apparently just does not have the ability to do it. That's not "hate" toward him as a person.... just a recognition that he's not a very good QB.
 
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zjcvols said:
If JG is so ****** how the hell could Pruitt not find someone better so far then? He’s been on the job for 21 months. If JG is that bad, and nobody is better than him, than blame Pruitt for not being able to get someone better.
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JG is that bad. He's been that bad even before Pruitt.

Pruitt like Jones before him seems to see all that physical talent. He seems to be hoping just like Jones did that JG can just make that step and "get it" mentally. No doubt JG is a very good practice player. But we've watched it play out over and over. He just can't see and process fast enough to play the position. It isn't his fault. Some guys can't throw a football... in fact most of us can't. And the game just never slows down for some guys.

The stuff we're talking about should be second instinct no later than a guy's 3rd year. JG is a 4th year player and still the announcers were recognizing over and over that he was "late" with his decisions and throws.

I speculated over the summer in some of our "discussions" that maybe he just didn't have the mental talent to do it. It seems even more likely now that's the case.
 
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sjt18 said:
JG is that bad. He's been that bad even before Pruitt.

Pruitt like Jones before him seems to see all that physical talent. He seems to be hoping just like Jones did that JG can just make that step and "get it" mentally. No doubt JG is a very good practice player. But we've watched it play out over and over. He just can't see and process fast enough to play the position. It isn't his fault. Some guys can't throw a football... in fact most of us can't. And the game just never slows down for some guys.

The stuff we're talking about should be second instinct no later than a guy's 3rd year. JG is a 4th year player and still the announcers were recognizing over and over that he was "late" with his decisions and throws.

I speculated over the summer in some of our "discussions" that maybe he just didn't have the mental talent to do it. It seems even more likely now that's the case.
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So, he didn’t see that in the previous 12 games? And he didn’t think maybe get a grad transfer or a freshman more ready to play?

So again, it falls back on Pruitt.

I’m not disagreeing with your overall points, but it all falls back on JP. And considering what we’ve heard about the backups, JG is going to be the guy this year.....
 
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zjcvols said:
So, he didn’t see that in the previous 12 games? And he didn’t think maybe get a grad transfer or a freshman more ready to play?
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I'm not absolving him of blame but I'm sure he hoped that surrounding JG with Chaney, Weinke, and Tee would make a big difference. You can see the physical talent. It must be frustrating for a coach when that much talent just can't translate to the field.

So again, it falls back on Pruitt.
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IMHO, the fate of his career as UT's HC rides on making a wise and bold decision to change QB's. If one of your Fr QB's are making mistakes... if you have to coach around a weakness they have until they improve... that's understandable. But if a guy in his 4th year still can't make reads and decisions accurately and quickly then a coach's job is to see it and make the change.

I’m not disagreeing with your overall points, but it all falls back on JP. And considering what we’ve heard about the backups, JG is going to be the guy this year.....
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What we've "heard" about the back ups?

I'm not sure what you're talking about but I would question if either of them has reached their ceiling or not. Given an opportunity, could one develop given some playing time? One of JG's biggest issues is that he doesn't "anticipate" throws well. After the first two games, I'm not even sure he processes fast enough to get to that point... but anyway even last year Pruitt said that Shrout may have been "anticipating throws" better than JG or Chryst. Maurer is definitely raw but he showed some really good instincts in the O&W game and has talent you can build on.

If JG is "the guy"... there's not a sure win left on UT's schedule including next week. He just limits the O too much.
 
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zjcvols said:
So, he didn’t see that in the previous 12 games? And he didn’t think maybe get a grad transfer or a freshman more ready to play?

So again, it falls back on Pruitt.

I’m not disagreeing with your overall points, but it all falls back on JP. And considering what we’ve heard about the backups, JG is going to be the guy this year.....
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Obviously Pruitt isn't the answer either
 
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