The Impeachment Thread

[Septic]

Just read and the sixth says speedy to all criminal charges. No underlying requirements.

If she holds onto it she could also be voiding his fifth amendment right of due process.

She will definitely be going into unknown waters here and I am sure Trump would push it to the Supreme Court.

Last week, "its too fast!"

This week, "it's too slow!"

 

[C-south]

Speedy trials seems so laughable to me these days. I would suspect it would not apply as this is not a criminal trial but who knows.
I would certainly push the due process it if I could. Put some timeline on it and go thru the courts.

What a effing mess.

This isn’t a court that is backlogged for months. There’s nothing stopping the process except the dims. Maybe charge them with obstruction.

 

[RavinDave]

Yes.

That’s one helluva pee tape.

 

[Septic]

That’s one helluva pee tape.

Those Huckabees are freaks.

 

[AM64]

No one living person speaks for an entire religion. However, it is completely fair to judge the character of Donald Trump by his actions as President. Not all humans are as flawed as Trump. He is a uniquely egocentric and self-absorbed person who doesn't appear to be anchored to any set of moral values.

In other words Trump was destined to be a politician. The only real difference is that Trump made his fortune before he became a politician rather than acting as though his fortune was made acting in our behalf.

 

[AM64]

It's just a procedural formality at this point.

You mean like the silent tree falling in the forest when nobody is around to hear?

 

[Velo Vol]

I suppose politics would be a consideration in this hypothetical, but the only way I know of to compel them is contempt and incarceration. I’d do everything I could to lock them up during any court challenges so they have a compelling reason to expedite the case rather than stall.

Yes, that might have some political ramifications.

Just glancing over this, has there been any modern cases of people jailed for failure to testify? It doesn't appear so.

Contempt of Congress - Wikipedia

 

[luthervol]

When the grand jury determines that enough evidence is present to go to trial do they have the authority to just dismiss, move forward at their discretion, and/or approve of the judicial process?

No, because they know the rules will be followed and aren't faced with the asinine prospect of the "head juror" working with the defense team and dismissing the case with admitted prejudice.

 

[NCFisher]

No one living person speaks for an entire religion. However, it is completely fair to judge the character of Donald Trump by his actions as President. Not all humans are as flawed as Trump. He is a uniquely egocentric and self-absorbed person who doesn't appear to be anchored to any set of moral values.

He's much like Clinton in that respect. Overall, he's the most FDR-like president since him. About equal with Obama when it comes to narcissism.

 

[C-south]

In other words Trump was destined to be a politician. The only real difference is that Trump made his fortune before he became a politician rather than acting as though his fortune was made acting in our behalf.

Yes it’s amazing how someone’s net worth can be over $100 million by taking in $200k a year.

 

[C-south]

No, because they know the rules will be followed and aren't faced with the asinine prospect of the "head juror" working with the defense team and dismissing the case with admitted prejudice.

Rules? The rules are made up by each respective group. They can do wtf the want just like the other did. Play stupid games win stupid prizes.

 

[RockyTop85]

So you are saying the Senate can start at their own discretion now and no further official procedure is necessary?

That’s what I read. They would just have to vote to change the senate rules to omit the language about waiting to receive the articles.

 

[NEO]

The Senate is the jury, the Chief Justice (Roberts) will preside over the trail of an impeached president.

True.

But at this point criminal charges were filed when they voted.

 

[NEO]

Last week, "its too fast!"

This week, "it's too slow!"

Once u vote you just hand it off.

And I never thought the house part was too fast. It honestly dragged. I just thought it was stupid.

 

[AirVol]

Pelosi has boxed herself in now. I think she's going to hold on to them untill the Senate election seats up for election in November are voted on.

For her screeching about our constitution, what she’s doing is unconstitutional.

 

[1972 Grad]

Yes it’s amazing how someone’s net worth can be over $100 million by taking in $200k a year.

Easy. 500 years at $200K and you're there.

 

[C-south]

Easy. 500 years at $200K and you're there.

 

[volfanhill]

Those Huckabees are freaks.

I can’t watch if they are both in the same video.

 

[RockyTop85]

Yes, that might have some political ramifications.

Just glancing over this, has there been any modern cases of people jailed for failure to testify? It doesn't appear so.

Contempt of Congress - Wikipedia

Sissies, IMO.

 

[AM64]

There wasn't live witness testimony in Clinton's impeachment.

There aren't many people who have threatened to testify against a Clinton and lived.

 

[StarRaider]

Ya'll have a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

 

[luthervol]

Rules? The rules are made up by each respective group. They can do wtf the want just like the other did. Play stupid games win stupid prizes.

Try keeping it in context.
I was responding to a specific question.
Obvious how some of you end up so far off course.

 

[C-south]

Try keeping it in context.
I was responding to a specific question.
Obvious how some of you end up so far off course.

There is no context when rules are made up during the process by both groups. So why the delay? Does the senate need to just go ahead and get it over with on their own?

 

[luthervol]

There is no context when rules are made up during the process by both groups. So why the delay? Does the senate need to just go ahead and get it over with on their own?

They will either do the right thing and have a legitimate trial or not. Time will tell.

 

[C-south]

They will either do the right thing and have a legitimate trial or not. Time will tell.

So wtf are we waiting for?