The Iceman appreciation thread

[volsknx]

Before you correct the spelling of sense my auto correct on my phone changed it meant since but I know how you people are

I think you have the wrong guy you are quoting.

Yeah your right his 5 sec east championships, 2 sec championships and national championship with an overall 152-52 record is awful thank goodness they let him go because we've been fantastic sense then, careful who you call an idiot

You forget to add that 152-52 record came on the heels of an already established program only two years removed from back to back SEC Championships. It’s not like the guy did what Dickey and Majors did and, that is build up a/the program. Instead, he ran it plum into and under the ground! Hence, and I will remind you once again, TWO losing seasons in the LAST FOUR YEARS.

Don’t forget he back doored his way into most of those East championships.

 

[GrizzlyVol]

I think you have the wrong guy you are quoting.



You forget to add that 152-52 record came on the heels of an already established program only two years removed from back to back SEC Championships. It’s not like the guy did what Dickey and Majors did and, that is build up a/the program. Instead, he ran it plum into and under the ground! Hence, and I will remind you once again, TWO losing seasons in the LAST FOUR YEARS.

Don’t forget he back doored his way into most of those East championships.

 

[livefaith]

He beats fl 3 of 4 atleast with the 95, 96, 97, 98 teams and maybe wins us 2 NC instead of one.

Dude was a baller.

Peyton was a much better NFL player but Casey was better in college.

Uhhh, no.

 

[unfrozencvmanvol]

Anybody remember the first snap of his career? About a 40 yard fade down the sidelines vs the Gumps?

3-1 all time against the Gumps, 2-2 versus the giant water lizards.

 

[Backwards K]

Uhhh, no.

Anyone who thinks Clausen is even in the same conversation with Peyton Manning at any level either doesn't know anything about football or was not alive when Peyton was playing

 

[NEO]

Anyone who thinks Clausen is even in the same conversation with Peyton Manning at any level either doesn't know anything about football or was not alive when Peyton was playing

You got some peyton worship going on.

I was alive and was watching him lose to fl every single year.

 

[R481967]

Most grit ever. I used to say Casey had a 42" vertical RUN... so unique. Loved the guy.

 

[livefaith]

Anyone who thinks Clausen is even in the same conversation with Peyton Manning at any level either doesn't know anything about football or was not alive when Peyton was playing

Some people get confused about football being a TEAM sport. They treat it like a boxing match and get really foggy @ the quality of the individuals in the teams.

 

[ABINGDON VOL FAN]

He beats fl 3 of 4 atleast with the 95, 96, 97, 98 teams and maybe wins us 2 NC instead of one.

Dude was a baller.

Peyton was a much better NFL player but Casey was better in college.

Complete nonsense.

 

[ZZ13]

Anybody remember the first snap of his career? About a 40 yard fade down the sidelines vs the Gumps?

He played against Georgia before that Bama start. He threw a touchdown pass in the first half that the official ruled out of bounds. But replay showed he clearly got his foot down. That bad call made a big difference in that game.

 

[Alto1]

I always felt we were going to win with Casey as QB. Yes he had a good bunch of guys around him, but HE was clutch and most importantly, a leader…

 

[T_Vol376]

I know it's blasphemy, but he's my favorite Vol quarterback.

It’s not blasphemy. Your favorite is who it is and it doesn’t have to be the majority’s favorite! (I’m not one to go along with the crowd.)

 

[NEO]

Complete nonsense.

So Peyton wasnt better in the NFL?

So we dont win the NC with Casey if he is QB instead of Tee?

So Casey didn't beat FL when Manning never did?

Which of the above statements is complete nonsense because all of those happened and Casey still wins the natty if its him instead of Tee. Dude was clutch.

 

[ABINGDON VOL FAN]

So Peyton wasnt better in the NFL?

So we dont win the NC with Casey if he is QB instead of Tee?

So Casey didn't beat FL when Manning never did?

Which of the above statements is complete nonsense because all of those happened and Casey still wins the natty if its him instead of Tee. Dude was clutch.

1-Yes
2-Maybe, teams win Championships.
3-Clarify the statement. Did you mean to state that Clausen beat Florida while Manning never did?

The overriding point in your post was that Clausen was a better College Qb at UT than Manning was. That is complete nonsense.

 

[NEO]

1-Yes
2-Maybe, teams win Championships.
3-Clarify the statement. Did you mean to state that Clausen beat Florida while Manning never did?

The overriding point in your post was that Clausen was a better College Qb at UT than Manning was. That is complete nonsense.

Ok let's discuss. What made Manning a better college QB?

His record against FL was much worse.

Casey had a QBR of 139.8 and threw for 75 TDs. His QBR for 2001 was 150 which is higher than any single year Manning played. This was also the only year Casey had a talent around him as the team lost alot in 02 and 03.


Manning had a QBR of 147.1 and through for 89 TDs with 36 of those being in 97 when the team was totally stacked. No single year was he ever higher than Casey's 01 QBR rating.

Casey beat FL at the swamp and was 14-1 on the road. Manning never beat FL.


Manning threw 33 INTs and Casey only threw 31, two less.

To sum this up.

Casey had the higher single season QBR and better road percentage win ratio and win ratio against FL and threw less picks.

 

[volsknx]

1-Yes
2-Maybe, teams win Championships.
3-Clarify the statement. Did you mean to state that Clausen beat Florida while Manning never did?

The overriding point in your post was that Clausen was a better College Qb at UT than Manning was. That is complete nonsense.

Ok let's discuss. What made Manning a better college QB?

His record against FL was much worse.

Casey had a QBR of 139.8 and threw for 75 TDs. His QBR for 2001 was 150 which is higher than any single year Manning played. This was also the only year Casey had a talent around him as the team lost alot in 02 and 03.


Manning had a QBR of 147.1 and through for 89 TDs with 36 of those being in 97 when the team was totally stacked. No single year was he ever higher than Casey's 01 QBR rating.

Casey beat FL at the swamp and was 14-1 on the road. Manning never beat FL.


Manning threw 33 INTs and Casey only threw 31, two less.

To sum this up.

Casey had the higher single season QBR and better road percentage win ratio and win ratio against FL and threw less picks.

Peyton is and always will be a Tennessee legend!

 

[Backwards K]

You got some peyton worship going on.

I was alive and was watching him lose to fl every single year.

Peyton led his team to an SEC Championship. How many did Casey get?

 

[Backwards K]

You got some peyton worship going on.

I was alive and was watching him lose to fl every single year.

Then, back to my original post: You just don't know anything about Football.

 

[NEO]

Peyton is and always will be a Tennessee legend!

I agree.

This isn't saying he wasnt great.

 

[NEO]

Then, back to my original post: You just don't know anything about Football.

Peyton led his team to an SEC Championship. How many did Casey get?

I mention qbr rating etc and you make it personal and stupid.

Sorry I hurt your feelings.

Peace out.

 

[volsknx]

I agree.

This isn't saying he wasnt great.

I got so mad year in and year out when he could not Beat Florida. A few years ago I went back and specifically watched him during those games and he was just different. More uptight/tense and seemed to get rid of the ball much faster. Had he won in ‘97, he would have received the Heisman, I believe.

 

[NEO]

I got so mad year in and year out when he could not Beat Florida. A few years ago I went back and specifically watched him during those games and he was just different. More uptight/tense and seemed to get rid of the ball much faster. Had he won in ‘97, he would have received the Heisman, I believe.

He had the same issue in the NFL.

GOAT of the regular season but always got tense and had a bad tendency to throw picks really late in the game when it was on the line. The colts should have beaten the Patriots more often than not in my opinion but Brady always seemed to make less mistakes especially when it was clutch time.

It's a very unpopular belief on here but if the game is on the line and all players are the same but the QB then I am rolling with Casey over Peyton. Especially if its against Fl.

He also retired Spurrier from FL as the FL game was the last regular season game Spurrier coached there. Spurrier saw Casey and decided he didn't want another 2 years of that.

 

[901Vol]

Ok let's discuss. What made Manning a better college QB?

His record against FL was much worse.

Casey had a QBR of 139.8 and threw for 75 TDs. His QBR for 2001 was 150 which is higher than any single year Manning played. This was also the only year Casey had a talent around him as the team lost alot in 02 and 03.


Manning had a QBR of 147.1 and through for 89 TDs with 36 of those being in 97 when the team was totally stacked. No single year was he ever higher than Casey's 01 QBR rating.

Casey beat FL at the swamp and was 14-1 on the road. Manning never beat FL.


Manning threw 33 INTs and Casey only threw 31, two less.

To sum this up.

Casey had the higher single season QBR and better road percentage win ratio and win ratio against FL and threw less picks.

It’s absurd to compare Casey Clausen to Peyton Manning but I keep hearing people compare the Florida games as if Casey Clausen played against the same Florida teams as Peyton did. I’m sure Peyton would’ve had a much better record against Florida if he played against 2 Ron Zook coached teams. As for the drain the swamp game, Travis Stephens rushed for more yards than Casey passed for and that's with an offense that had Stallworth, Washington, and Witten.

Now, if you want another counterpoint about Peyton vs Casey just look at how Casey did against Georgia. I’ll never forget when he was hurt in 2002 and we played a close game with James Banks as our qb. Casey said something to the effect of “I would’ve beaten with an arm tied behind my back. In 2003, he proceeded to lose to Georgia 41-14 at Neyland.

Casey was a solid qb and I think the fanbase appreciates him more these days because the last 15 years of Vol football have been mostly disappointing. However, he wasn't anywhere close to Peyton in ability and his "iceman" name was mostly built by getting road wins against teams we were supposed to beat in regulation. People seem to forget what those overtime Arkansas, Alabama, and South Carolina games were like in that era. All three of those games were against unranked opponents that we should've beaten handily in regulation.

 

[ABINGDON VOL FAN]

I got so mad year in and year out when he could not Beat Florida. A few years ago I went back and specifically watched him during those games and he was just different. More uptight/tense and seemed to get rid of the ball much faster. Had he won in ‘97, he would have received the Heisman, I believe.

The whole team was uptight and tense against Florida even to this day. Remember the game during Manning’s sophomore year? We were ahead by over a touchdown near the end of the half or early in the 2nd half and one hit on a WR completely changed the tone of the game and the remaining games during Manning’s college career. It even changed the tone of the series even to this day. Florida just had a psychological advantage over UT that started with Spurrier.

 

[ABINGDON VOL FAN]

He had the same issue in the NFL.

GOAT of the regular season but always got tense and had a bad tendency to throw picks really late in the game when it was on the line. The colts should have beaten the Patriots more often than not in my opinion but Brady always seemed to make less mistakes especially when it was clutch time.

It's a very unpopular belief on here but if the game is on the line and all players are the same but the QB then I am rolling with Casey over Peyton. Especially if its against Fl.

He also retired Spurrier from FL as the FL game was the last regular season game Spurrier coached there. Spurrier saw Casey and decided he didn't want another 2 years of that.

Lol. Spurrier afraid of Clausen. You’re mad!