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n_huffhines said:
Did it ever occur to anybody that maybe part of what makes places like Texas and Arizona awesome is that they are border states with lots of immigrants (legal and illegal)? Last I checked, Phoenix, Dallas, and Austin are 3 of the lowest crime (per capita) cities in America with tons of economic opportunity. How is this possible if these places are overrun, like everybody tries to pretend?
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none of those are border towns - are you suggesting that the border towns have plenty of resources to absorb this historic influx and should just deal with it?
 
#1,552
#1,552
n_huffhines said:
Did it ever occur to anybody that maybe part of what makes places like Texas and Arizona awesome is that they are border states with lots of immigrants (legal and illegal)? Last I checked, Phoenix, Dallas, and Austin are 3 of the lowest crime (per capita) cities in America with tons of economic opportunity. How is this possible if these places are overrun, like everybody tries to pretend?
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Nothing fundamentally wrong with immigrants. When you have over 3.5 million in less then two years, that’s a different story. Especially when those illegal avenues are used for human trafficking, fentanyl, and terrorists. I work with a large number of legal Hispanic immigrants and all are conservatives and concerned about illegal immigration.
 
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volinbham said:
none of those are border towns - are you suggesting that the border towns have plenty of resources to absorb this historic influx and should just deal with it?
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Do you think people stay in border towns forever or do they tend to just pass thru?

El Paso is a border town, and it was in that same grouping of low crime cities (IDK what the economy is like) according to the FBI statistics I saw. IDK why I forgot to mention it. This article is old, but this is what I'm basing it off. Can't find anything newer. The link no longer works, hence the screenshot:

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Also, what about border counties in general (more recent data)?

n_huffhines said:
Facts:

"First, the crime rate in the 23 counties along the U.S. border with Mexico is below that of counties in the United States that do not lie along the Mexican border. Violent and property crime rates are both slightly lower along the border, but the homicide rate along the border is a whopping 34 percent below the homicide rate in non-border counties. If the entire United States had a homicide rate as low as that along the border in 2017, then there would have been about 5,720 fewer homicides nationwide that year."

"Second, illegal immigrants apprehended along the border have a low criminal conviction rate."

"Third, resident illegal immigrants are less likely to be incarcerated or convicted of crimes than native-born Americans. The estimated nationwide illegal immigrant incarceration rate in 2016 was 47 percent below that of native-born Americans, including those in immigration detention. According to a different measure of illegal immigrant criminals incarcerated in state prisons only, their nationwide incarceration rate is about 28 percent below that of legal immigrants and natives combined. Texas is the only state that tracks criminal convictions by immigration status. In 2015 the illegal immigrant criminal conviction rates were 50 percent below native-born Americans while their homicide conviction rate was 16 percent below natives in Texas."

There Is No National Emergency on the Border, Mr. President
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#1,554
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n_huffhines said:
No. Do you think people stay in border towns forever or do they tend to just pass thru?

El Paso is a border town, and it was in that same grouping of low crime cities (IDK what the economy is like) according to the FBI statistics I saw. IDK why I forgot to mention it. This article is old, but this is what I'm basing it off. Can't find anything newer. The link no longer works, hence the screenshot:

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Also, what about border counties in general (more recent data)?
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crime isn't the only issue - the entire safety net applies to these entrants. without some official work designation they are technically barred from work. the schools face the impact, all social services face the impact. there are real consequences

we've hit over 2 million for this fiscal year with one month to go. there are real costs associated with this uninterrupted flow.
 
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volinbham said:
If all the undocumented immigrants that arrived so far under Biden were a state they would be about the 28th largest state in the country. Just those this year put them at the 36th largest

It's not a sustainable policy
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The only policy is that there isn't one.

7 weeks until judgment day.
 
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