The Christian Taliban

[jp1]

New Earth Creationism is demonstrably false. Whether you accept the consensus that the universe is billions of years old, belief that this world is only 6,000 or so years old cannot be supported through any observable facts.

In the past couple of years alone, archaeologists found evidence in South Africa that early humans (or their forebears) were using fire almost a million years ago.

Archaeologists Find Earliest Evidence of Humans Cooking With Fire | DiscoverMagazine.com

I personally have questions about certain scientific theories and suppositions. But I find it sad that so many believers seem to think that they've grasped the fullness of God's works, or that they're even capable of doing so. I came to the conclusion shortly after becoming a believer that God doesn't intend for us to understand the scope of who and what He is. At least, not within this life.

I don't disagree with some of what you are saying, however dating methods and such have many flaws. Take ice core sampling for example. It's a debate that wont be won/lost on a message board.

 

[jp1]

Which part? That the earth was created in 7 literal days and is only 6000 years old?

Sure....have at it.

 

[OrangeWayOfLife]

No that one is probably real. You may want to hide.

Could the earth have been created with a pre-existing history?

 

[tennvols77]

No that one is probably real. You may want to hide.

:no:

 

[MercyPercy]

I don't believe in evolution and i'm not an idiot.

Bold claim, Dave. Bold claim. Let's see if it holds up under serious evaluation.

I believe God created the earth and what is on it. I'm a literal creationist and if you aren't that's your business but don't talk down to me because I don't share your beliefs on that.

I believe everything that is written in the Bible is true.

So Dave, you believe everything in the bible is to be taken as literal and true. That means that you believe..

1)That two of every animal on the planet alive today fit on an ark that survived a global flood, and only one human family survived from this flood to repopulate the earth.

2) A man survived inside the belly of a whale.

3) A man split the sea in half, after god massacred the first borns of an entire country.

4) People rose from the dead.

5) A virgin gave birth.

6) Animals can talk.

7) Chicks were created from the rib of a man.

8) Physical and mental illnesses are caused by demonic possession.

9) The earth is 6000 years old.

10) Water literally became wine.

Among the multitudes of other absurd passages. So, Dave, your bold claim is starting to crumble. You just might be an idiot. But hey, that's okay. Being an idiot isn't a crime, and no one here is persecuting you for that. They're persecuting you because you're a Christian, right buddy?

I believe in what is said in the Bible and that explains why I don't believe in the theory of evolution. You need to show some respect to those whose beliefs on this are different from yours.

I guess I can put you down as Anti-Christian if you refuse to show respect toward Christians or their beliefs.

No one has to respect your beliefs, Dave. All I have to do is respect your right to have those beliefs. :thumbsup:

 

[VolsSportsFan]

I don't disagree with some of what you are saying, however dating methods and such have many flaws. Take ice core sampling for example. It's a debate that wont be won/lost on a message board.

Ok, that's fine, but like I said, it seems in the minds of most creationists the idea is to poke a hole in any science that "promotes" evolution (whether the hole is legitimate or not) and then declare it not trustworthy.

Then turn around and make the gigantic leap in logic that the Bible account is true. I've yet to see a hardcore creationist be even remotely critical of the creation account as they so quick to be of evolution.

 

[theFallGuy]

Now Walker won't say he believes in evolution.

Carson compares homosexuality to bestiality. Huckabee compares it to alcoholism.
Paul and Christie criticize vaccinations.

Sitting chief judges say they will ignore the Supreme Court if it authorizes gay marriage and knocks down state laws to the contrary as violative of the 14th Amendment.

The GOP leadership is a bunch of religious wackos. They have become the Christian Taliban.

oh this should be goood

 

[jp1]

Bold claim, Dave. Bold claim. Let's see if it holds up under serious evaluation.





So Dave, you believe everything in the bible is to be taken as literal and true. That means that you believe..

1)That two of every animal on the planet alive today fit on an ark that survived a global flood, and only one human family survived from this flood to repopulate the earth.

2) A man survived inside the belly of a whale.

3) A man split the sea in half, after god massacred the first borns of an entire country.

4) People rose from the dead.

5) A virgin gave birth.

6) Animals can talk.

7) Chicks were created from the rib of a man.

8) Physical and mental illnesses are caused by demonic possession.

9) The earth is 6000 years old.

10) Water literally became wine.

Among the multitudes of other absurd passages. So, Dave, your bold claim is starting to crumble. You just might be an idiot. But hey, that's okay. Being an idiot isn't a crime, and no one here is persecuting you for that. They're persecuting you because you're a Christian, right buddy?





No one has to respect your beliefs, Dave. All I have to do is respect your right to have those beliefs. :thumbsup:

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[bamawriter]

I don't disagree with some of what you are saying, however dating methods and such have many flaws. Take ice core sampling for example. It's a debate that wont be won/lost on a message board.

Even if dating methods are off, there's no way they can be off enough to miss by millions of years.

Think of this: all kinds of animals are mentioned in the Bible. The dog was domesticated by the time the earliest Biblical stories begin; the greyhound is even mentioned as a breed. Horses, mules, and birds were all able to be trained in some of the earliest chapters of Genesis. Biblical people had to worry about being eaten by wolves, bears, and lions.

Yet not once does a single Biblical figure express any fear of being eaten by a T-Rex, or trampled by a triceratops. If man existed on this Earth at the same time as the dinosaurs, how is it that giant lizards weren't notable enough to be mentioned even once?

 

[VolsSportsFan]

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He said one human family.

Even if he got that part wrong, it doesn't cancel out the rest of his post.

 

[alexbond45]

Even if dating methods are off, there's no way they can be off enough to miss by millions of years.

Think of this: all kinds of animals are mentioned in the Bible. The dog was domesticated by the time the earliest Biblical stories begin; the greyhound is even mentioned as a breed. Horses, mules, and birds were all able to be trained in some of the earliest chapters of Genesis. Biblical people had to worry about being eaten by wolves, bears, and lions.

Yet not once does a single Biblical figure express any fear of being eaten by a T-Rex, or trampled by a triceratops. If man existed on this Earth at the same time as the dinosaurs, how is it that giant lizards weren't notable enough to be mentioned even once?

I thorughly agree with this, I stopped caring how old the earth was because the bible and evolution don't fit so I just leave it be

 

[theFallGuy]

Is this the new talking point?

Forget the war on women, go big with 'christian taliban'

Next up, Lawgator will introduce legislation to throw them in prison for dissenting

 

[VolsSportsFan]

Could the earth have been created with a pre-existing history?

Could have? Sure. But there's no evidence to support it.

Could I have been born with the ability to fly but lost it 3 minutes after birth?

 

[jp1]

He said one human family.

Even if he got that part wrong, it doesn't cancel out the rest of his post.

I decided to give up on the debate is the reason I deleted my post.

 

[apevol]

Probably has a Fat Head™ of the handsome Joakim Noah.

Ties rooms together better than a rug.

I wouldn't mind having a fathead of CJ Watson knocking Noah on his a$$. That was beautiful.

 

[bamawriter]

I decided to give up on the debate is the reason I deleted my post.

You sure it had nothing to do with you misreading the post you'd quoted?

 

[VolsSportsFan]

I decided to give up on the debate is the reason I deleted my post.

That and you were wrong on what you called him out on.

 

[jp1]

You sure it had nothing to do with you misreading the post you'd quoted?

No he said one human family which I misquoted which was wrong as I was trying to point out.

 

[OrangeWayOfLife]

Could have? Sure. But there's no evidence to support it.

Could I have been born with the ability to fly but lost it 3 minutes after birth?

How would there be evidence to support that? It's just as plausible as any theory

 

[jp1]

That and you were wrong on what you called him out on.

Its a neverending debate and you know that as well as I do. I decided it wasnt worth my time but believe what you want.

 

[bamawriter]

No he said one human family which I misquoted which was wrong as I was trying to point out.

You're saying there was more than one family on the ark?

 

[jp1]

You're saying there was more than one family on the ark?

I was pointing out that it wasnt simply Noah/wife and kids.

 

[bamawriter]

I was pointing out that it wasnt simply Noah/wife and kids.

Actually, it was exactly that, along with his son's wives. Assuming that they were the only living humans remaining to repopulate the world, that would mean that the first generation of children would have been, at most, first cousins.

 

[VolsSportsFan]

I was pointing out that it wasnt simply Noah/wife and kids.

As far as humans?

 

[jp1]

Actually, it was exactly that, along with his son's wives. Assuming that they were the only living humans remaining to repopulate the world, that would mean that the first generation of children would have been, at most, first cousins.

So you are telling me that you believe all people came from 2 individuals but not believing we came from 8 people?