The Bruce Pearl Thread

Would you be for Bruce Pearl's return if Martin is fired after next year?

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volbeast33 said:
Not that I think they are important but he won two just not at tennessee but he would have eventually.
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Really? He lost his best opportunity to an inferior Miss State team, and lost in the semis with the best team he had in his entire stint here. He wasn't going to do it.
 
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whobethis16 said:
Really? He lost his best opportunity to an inferior Miss State team, and lost in the semis with the best team he had in his entire stint here. He wasn't going to do it.
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Don't let ur hate blind u.....most coaches could care less about the conference tournament but he would eventually win one....making an elite eight is a better accomplishment than a conference tournament championship.
 
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Bruce made a mistake that doesn't even compare to those that many of the top collegiate coaches have made are currently making without exposure in today's collegiate basketball game. If you think that it would be a mistake or an embarrassment to the university to hire cpb back just compare and contrast sec titles, and an elite 8 appearance to zero NCAA tourney births and see where ur pride of the the university gets you. I can answer that for you, it gets a half empty arena and an NIT bid with a very talented team. If the University has any balls or gumption about them they will right the ship the sunk 2 years ago.:hi:
 
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allvol21 said:
Bruce made a mistake that doesn't even compare to those that many of the top collegiate coaches have made are currently making without exposure in today's collegiate basketball game. If you think that it would be a mistake or an embarrassment to the university to hire cpb back just compare and contrast sec titles, and an elite 8 appearance to zero NCAA tourney births and see where ur pride of the the university gets you. I can answer that for you, it gets a half empty arena and an NIT bid with a very talented team. If the University has any balls or gumption about them they will right the ship the sunk 2 years ago.:hi:
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I agree with you totally, but you will be flamed for this post by the Pearl haters with their usual " I loved Bruce Pearl when he was here, but he's gone now." prefix. The truth is most of the ones who talk against him now were calling for his firing the whole of his last season.
 
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knowthevols said:
I agree with you totally, but you will be flamed for this post by the Pearl haters with their usual " I loved Bruce Pearl when he was here, but he's gone now." prefix. The truth is most of the ones who talk against him now were calling for his firing the whole of his last season.
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He brought the NCAA down on my beloved university. You're damn right I wanted him gone. I also did not want Kiffin from the very beginning because I knew he was a snake, and I got blasted for that. It's not like I'm crying like a baby because he lost a couple of games, like some on here.

Edit: actually, in all honesty, I was like many and was saying it was "just a barbecue" and all that. But since then, I have realized more and more that in life, you have to follow rules, whether you agree with them or not. And once you break them (or the trust), you must deal with it. Integrity is everything.
 
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whobethis16 said:
He brought the NCAA down on my beloved university. You're damn right I wanted him gone. I also did not want Kiffin from the very beginning because I knew he was a snake, and I got blasted for that. It's not like I'm crying like a baby because he lost a couple of games, like some on here.

Edit: actually, in all honesty, I was like many and was saying it was "just a barbecue" and all that. But since then, I have realized more and more that in life, you have to follow rules, whether you agree with them or not. And once you break them (or the trust), you must deal with it. Integrity is everything.
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Integrity means nothing in the NCAA. For guys like you and I you are correct, it means everything.

You don't have to be a genius to look at the NCAA'S track record across all sports not just basketball to see that they are not only inconsistent but incompetent.

On a side note if you look at the majority of major cases and even some of the minor ones, lying seems to benefit you more than telling the truth in the majority of instances. It just didn't work out for Bruce because it was blatantly obvious which makes him a complete idiot, but he panicked and even said so himself. It was a stupid mistake which everyone on here is guilty of. We've all lied at some point over something stupid just because we panicked, it's a natural thing, even when we know there is no reason to do it.

In Bruce's case it held higher consequences and he should have known better, but heck, we should all know better.
 
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whobethis16 said:
He brought the NCAA down on my beloved university. You're damn right I wanted him gone. I also did not want Kiffin from the very beginning because I knew he was a snake, and I got blasted for that. It's not like I'm crying like a baby because he lost a couple of games, like some on here.

Edit: actually, in all honesty, I was like many and was saying it was "just a barbecue" and all that. But since then, I have realized more and more that in life, you have to follow rules, whether you agree with them or not. And once you break them (or the trust), you must deal with it. Integrity is everything.
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Every coach has broken a rule, if we hold every coach to the no rule break rule then we wont have a coach. LOL
 
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whobethis16 said:
He brought the NCAA down on my beloved university. You're damn right I wanted him gone. I also did not want Kiffin from the very beginning because I knew he was a snake, and I got blasted for that. It's not like I'm crying like a baby because he lost a couple of games, like some on here.
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I am sure that UK and Louisville along with many others are an infuriated fan base every march because at one point and time their coach made a mistake and broke a rule that in most cases were a worse infraction than Bruce committed.

Sure you can come back with "but it was uncalled for and stupid for him to lie about" Noone including himself would sit here today and disagree with that. It still all comes back to he mad a mistake he lied and he was truly sorry for that.
 
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jcv0010 said:
Integrity means nothing in the NCAA. For guys like you and I you are correct, it means everything.

You don't have to be a genius to look at the NCAA'S track record across all sports not just basketball to see that they are not only inconsistent but incompetent.

On a side note if you look at the majority of major cases and even some of the minor ones, lying seems to benefit you more than telling the truth in the majority of instances. It just didn't work out for Bruce because it was blatantly obvious which makes him a complete idiot, but he panicked and even said so himself. It was a stupid mistake which everyone on here is guilty of. We've all lied at some point over something stupid just because we panicked, it's a natural thing, even when we know there is no reason to do it.

In Bruce's case it held higher consequences and he should have known better, but heck, we should all know better.
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So, just because they coach basketball (or any sport for that matter) they are allowed to not have integrity? I'm not saying I agree with the inconsistency of the NCAA. I'm saying that despite that, there's no reason to sacrifice the integrity of the university for it. That's the biggest problem out there. "We don't care what athletics do because they are athletes. Let them do whatever they want because they are on the damn pedestal and better than us 'normies'".
 
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allvol21 said:
I am sure that UK and Louisville along with many others are an infuriated fan base every march because at one point and time their coach made a mistake and broke a rule that in most cases were a worse infraction than Bruce committed.

Sure you can come back with "but it was uncalled for and stupid for him to lie about" Noone including himself would sit here today and disagree with that. It still all comes back to he mad a mistake he lied and he was truly sorry for that.
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I don't want the Louisville or Kentucky coach anywhere near my university for that very reason.
 
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whobethis16 said:
So, just because they coach basketball (or any sport for that matter) they are allowed to not have integrity? I'm not saying I agree with the inconsistency of the NCAA. I'm saying that despite that, there's no reason to sacrifice the integrity of the university for it. That's the biggest problem out there. "We don't care what athletics do because they are athletes. Let them do whatever they want because they are on the damn pedestal and better than us 'normies'".
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Not at all what I'm saying. I'm just saying that the bodies governing the NCAA have zero integrity, and of course there are a few in there that try to do the right thing but the overwhelming majority care about one thing only, MONEY. Very similar to most governing bodies in the world. It's just what we have to live with.
 
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What would it hurt to bring him back?

Would it really compromise the integrity of the program?
After he started winning people would start to form amnesia very quickly.
 
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jcv0010 said:
Not at all what I'm saying. I'm just saying that the bodies governing the NCAA have zero integrity, and of course there are a few in there that try to do the right thing but the overwhelming majority care about one thing only, MONEY. Very similar to most governing bodies in the world. It's just what we have to live with.
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If everyone was jumping off a bridge would you do it too? The majority is not always right.
 
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whobethis16 said:
If everyone was jumping off a bridge would you do it too? The majority is not always right.
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The majority decides if its right, actually. If the majority of the people support an action, it will be overlooked. See; slavery, pedophilia in the bible or the ancient west, drinking in college, etc. Virtually all right and wrong is determined by mass appeal, and thats why nothing is black or white.
 
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Daloth said:
The majority decides if its right, actually. If the majority of the people support an action, it will be overlooked. See; slavery, pedophilia in the bible or the ancient west, drinking in college, etc. Virtually all right and wrong is determined by mass appeal, and thats why nothing is black or white.
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They decide if it appears to be right. Asking 16-17 year old kids to lie for you is not right. But, ask the majority of the coaching staff at UT at the time, they'll say it was. I'm sure the majority of the staff that knew about the incident at Penn State said it was alright. Because the majority of that group says it was, was it right for them?
 
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whobethis16 said:
They decide if it appears to be right. Asking 16-17 year old kids to lie for you is not right. But, ask the majority of the coaching staff at UT at the time, they'll say it was. I'm sure the majority of the staff that knew about the incident at Penn State said it was alright. Because the majority of that group says it was, was it right for them?
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So Bruce lying to the NCAA is now being compared to pedophilia?
 
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So, I have a stupid question. What are the chances we hire pearl back next year, or ever. Is there a snowball's chance in hell or am I delusional. I know this has probably been discussed a million times, just curious for some fresh opinions. By the way, I'm not wondering if we SHOULD, just if it is a legitimate possibility.
 
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