The Atlanta Braves Thread (Terry Pendleton Edition)

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Scotty's Flat Top said:
I get Chipper, I love the guy. I still use variations of aspects of his life as passwords for my accounts. I mean I named my first beagle "Chipper Jones" for Peter's sake. That said, Chipper is closer to being the greatest Ambassador of Hooter's opposed to baseball's greatest ambassador in the last 40 years.
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What does that even mean? Is there even one baseball fan alive right now who wouldn't be watching anyway if Rivera had never been born? (Other than his immediately family, of course.) If you're talking about driving viewership and sustaining the sport, then Cal Ripken, Mark McGwire, and Sammy Sosa were all far better "ambassadors."
 
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I have no way to look this up, but I wouldn't be surprised if Bernie Williams's last weekend got more Sportscenter coverage than Chipper's.
 
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slh1089 said:
Haha, I just woke up. Brain isn't in full function at the moment.
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Damn! Just woke up at 11:45 am? If I didn't know any better, I'd think you were Dbake.

Also, since I am way too lazy to go back and find it, what was the name of the band you mentioned the other day when we were discussing J. Roddy?
 
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Vercingetorix said:
I have no way to look this up, but I wouldn't be surprised if Bernie Williams's last weekend got more Sportscenter coverage than Chipper's.
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I realize that Rivera is getting the same thing x10 but the Chipper Jones Barnstomring Door Prize celebration was more than enough last year, he didn't need any more coverage after that.

Hey Chip, over the last 20 years we know that you played a bunch of times here in San Diego so....here's a surfboard for your redneck ass.

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NochNoch said:
Damn! Just woke up at 11:45 am? If I didn't know any better, I'd think you were Dbake.

Also, since I am way too lazy to go back and find it, what was the name of the band you mentioned the other day when we were discussing J. Roddy?
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Ha, this is actually the latest I have slept in in a long time. I think the band I mentioned was Moon Taxi. They just came out with a new album that has some good tracks on it, but their best song is either "mercury" or "gunflower" off their first album. Speaking of J Roddy, they just played a free concert in Louisville, I was upset that I missed it.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
What does that even mean? Is there even one baseball fan alive right now who wouldn't be watching anyway if Rivera had never been born? (Other than his immediately family, of course.) If you're talking about driving viewership and sustaining the sport, then Cal Ripken, Mark McGwire, and Sammy Sosa were all far better "ambassadors."
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I am not talking "driving viewership" and the cash machine, but merely how one spends his time and resources away from the field. Charity, philanthropic endeavors while wearing a Yankee attire with that MLB logo gracing said attire.

Let's be honest, the needle era is desperately void of wholesome quality characters who also happen to be living legends. I mean, one of the greatest baseball players ever (Barry Bonds) came in like a lion and out like a lamb. Frankly, what has there been to celebrate for Buddy Boy and his legion of droids? Nothing, the precious company jewels have been tarnished beyond rectification. Then in steps Mariano Rivera. Who has done everything right. Poster boy. Multiple World Champ. No off field issues, great humanitarian. Unbecoming and humble, and what more you ask? He just so happens to have one of the filthiest pitches know to the human race. That Verc, is a rare commodity in today's time and age. Of course baseball is going to celebrate that, if for nothing other than American exploitation. It's like printing money, man. Which brings it full circle.
 
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NochNoch said:
I realize that Rivera is getting the same thing x10 but the Chipper Jones Barnstomring Door Prize celebration was more than enough last year, he didn't need any more coverage after that.

Hey Chip, over the last 20 years we know that you played a bunch of times here in San Diego so....here's a surfboard for your redneck ass.
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Yeah, you might as well give Chipper an astronaut suit. Those retirement prize things are silly.
 
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Scotty's Flat Top said:
I am not talking "driving viewership" and the cash machine, but merely how one spends his time and resources away from the field. Charity, philanthropic endeavors while wearing a Yankee attire with that MLB logo gracing said attire.

Let's be honest, the needle era is desperately void of wholesome quality characters who also happen to be living legends. I mean, one of the greatest baseball players ever (Barry Bonds) came in like a lion and out like a lamb. Frankly, what has there been to celebrate for Buddy Boy and his legion of droids? Nothing, the precious company jewels have been tarnished beyond rectification. Then in steps Mariano Rivera. Who has done everything right. Poster boy. Multiple World Champ. No off field issues, great humanitarian. Unbecoming and humble, and what more you ask? He just so happens to have one of the filthiest pitches know to the human race. That Verc, is a rare commodity in today's time and age. Of course baseball is going to celebrate that, if for nothing other than American exploitation. It's like printing money, man. Which brings it full circle.
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But he's just ambassading [1] to people who are already converted. The only people who know what a Great Human Being he is are people who are have read newspaper articles and watched soft-focus ESPN profiles about him......ie, people who are almost certainly already baseball fans. He's not printing money unless he's bringing new eyeballs in. And I don't think there are a lot of women out there saying, "Hey, let's turn on a base ball game so I can see if that nice young man I was reading about in the magazine on the airplane is playing."



[1] If "ambassador" is a noun, then there ought to be a verb form, dammit, and that ought to be it. Someone needs to fix this.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
Ah, but he was never a TRUE Yankee. Ask any Yankee fan. They despised him from the minute he showed up, just because they felt protective of Jeter.
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I tended bar in the Upper West Side of Manhattan a few subways stops from Yankee field. I am very well aware of how he is viewed by TRUE Yankee fans. The review is not raving nor glowing, no doubt.

That said, maybe you can educate me on the matters of who is and who isn't a Yankee. Daddy always said if it walked and talked like a duck, it is a duck. I don't like Derek Dooley, loathe him actually. Does not change the fact that he was a VOL. A Rod has been wearing pinstripes for 10 seasons. He is a Yankee, even if the clientele at Jake's Dilemma on the Upper West Side say he is not.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
But he's just ambassading [1] to people who are already converted. The only people who know what a Great Human Being he is are people who are have read newspaper articles and watched soft-focus ESPN profiles about him......ie, people who are almost certainly already baseball fans. He's not printing money unless he's bringing new eyeballs in. And I don't think there are a lot of women out there saying, "Hey, let's turn on a base ball game so I can see if that nice young man I was reading about in the magazine on the airplane is playing."



[1] If "ambassador" is a noun, then there ought to be a verb form, dammit, and that ought to be it. Someone needs to fix this.
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You are missing the point. The point is his upholding degree of all that is wholesome. He is celebrated by baseball because he can be, unlike the fallen heros of the past. He is the current poster boy of all that is "good" with Major League Baseball, in the age of cheats and bamboozlers.

Also, not sure you have checked the price for tickets in the last few days of the great Rivera. But the term arm and leg instantaneously come to mind.
 
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Scotty's Flat Top said:
I tended bar in the Upper West Side of Manhattan a few subways stops from Yankee field. I am very well aware of how he is viewed by TRUE Yankee fans. The review is not raving nor glowing, no doubt.

That said, maybe you can educate me on the matters of who is and who isn't a Yankee. Daddy always said if it walked and talked like a duck, it is a duck. I don't like Derek Dooley, loathe him actually. Does not change the fact that he was a VOL. A Rod has been wearing pinstripes for 10 seasons. He is a Yankee, even if the clientele at Jake's Dilemma on the Upper West Side say he is not.
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Only a TRUE Yankee fan can confidently state who is a TRUE YANKEE and who isn't. I have no idea what the criteria are. I would guess that Reggie Jackson is a TRUE YANKEE, even though he didn't play his whole career there. Jim Leyritz was probably a TRUE YANKEE until the exact second he killed a woman while drunk driving, at which point he WAS NEVER A TRUE YANKEE ANYWAY. Paul O'Neill, Tino Martinez, Hideki Irabu = TRUE YANKEES. Roger Clemens, Kevin Brown, Johnny Damon = NOT TRUE YANKEES.

I'm not aware of another team's fans that do this crap to anywhere near this degree. Is there one?
 
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Scotty's Flat Top said:
You are missing the point. The point is his upholding degree of all that is wholesome. He is celebrated by baseball because he can be, unlike the fallen heros of the past. He is the current poster boy of all that is "good" with Major League Baseball, in the age of cheats and bamboozlers.

Also, not sure you have checked the price for tickets in the last few days of the great Rivera. But the term arm and leg instantaneously come to mind.
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Derek Jeter has spent his career primarily ambassadizing the vaginas of actresses and models, and he's going to get a sendoff that makes this look like a going away party for someone quitting at McDonald's. I just don't think that the Wholesome Good Man aspect of this has much to do with it.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
Only a TRUE Yankee fan can confidently state who is a TRUE YANKEE and who isn't. I have no idea what the criteria are. I would guess that Reggie Jackson is a TRUE YANKEE, even though he didn't play his whole career there. Jim Leyritz was probably a TRUE YANKEE until the exact second he killed a woman while drunk driving, at which point he WAS NEVER A TRUE YANKEE ANYWAY. Paul O'Neill, Tino Martinez, Hideki Irabu = TRUE YANKEES. Roger Clemens, Kevin Brown, Johnny Damon = NOT TRUE YANKEES.

I'm not aware of another team's fans that do this crap to anywhere near this degree. Is there one?
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Good ole Urban Dictionary tell me that...
A "True Yankee" carries a magical aura that allows them to play a metaphysical, other worldly form of baseball which results in hyper clutchness, which is why Luis Sojo > Alex Rodriguez.
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