Texas or USC?

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#28
Both are highly overrated, but the best job may come open this year.....Georgia! That produce more top talent than any other state, and their in state competition isn't as tough.
 
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FullButchVol said:
Texas. Just way too much talent in there back yard.
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Highly overrated. Most of those players have peaked before they ever even touch a college football field because they are so well coached coming out of Texas high schools.
 
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Vols520 said:
No. Simply not a 'moron' who uses recruiting rankings and my sole argument.
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No, you have two arguments: one lame all-star game, and numbers in the NFL. The NFL argument is the better of the two, but even that is weak because a great college talent doesn't always translate to the NFL and vice versa. And since we are talking college jobs, the only relevant talent is college.

So one of your arguments is truly stupid, while the other is simply not great. TX is simply producing more top level college prospects than CA; and the difference is more impressive when noting the populations of both states.
 
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LA is a pro sports town. Even though USC has a rich tradition, I am not even sure it is close for which is the better job. I understand that A&M is causing problems, but Texas is the state university. Maybe things have changed, but I was born in Dallas, and Texas was the school. At Texas, you have to be able to evaluate and differentiate all of the great talent. Mack Brown has been hurt by having McCoy, Gilbert, Ash, and Case McCoy instead of Luck, Griffin, or the other plethora of QB's he passed on. I also agree that the PAC 12 is becoming tough. In a bad year at Texas, you should beat Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, TCU, Baylor, Texas Tech, and maybe West Virginia. JMO.
 
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Texas.

Austin is a great place to live and you have free reign to bully the remainder of your conference into submission.

Only drawback is the money. Too much of it, breeds hubris and complacency. A lot of good coaches down here have gone soft in the country club atmosphere.
 
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General Jack said:
Texas.

Austin is a great place to live and you have free reign to bully the remainder of your conference into submission.

Only drawback is the money. Too much of it, breeds hubris and complacency. A lot of good coaches down here have gone soft in the country club atmosphere.
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The best! Other than the traffic... good Lord.
 
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bamawriter said:
No, you have two arguments: one lame all-star game, and numbers in the NFL. The NFL argument is the better of the two, but even that is weak because a great college talent doesn't always translate to the NFL and vice versa. And since we are talking college jobs, the only relevant talent is college.

So one of your arguments is truly stupid, while the other is simply not great. TX is simply producing more top level college prospects than CA; and the difference is more impressive when noting the populations of both states.
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So when top talent from Texas played top talent from CA and couldn't win that's irrelevant?


You are simply pointing out subjective rankings and taking them as the absolute truth.

You then went to a personal attack for no reason.
 
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bamawriter said:
No, you have two arguments: one lame all-star game, and numbers in the NFL. The NFL argument is the better of the two, but even that is weak because a great college talent doesn't always translate to the NFL and vice versa. And since we are talking college jobs, the only relevant talent is college.

So one of your arguments is truly stupid, while the other is simply not great. TX is simply producing more top level college prospects than CA; and the difference is more impressive when noting the populations of both states.
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Population argument is over stated. Texas has a slightly higher percentage of players turned pro based on population. It's marginal.
 
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bamawriter said:
No, you have two arguments: one lame all-star game, and numbers in the NFL. The NFL argument is the better of the two, but even that is weak because a great college talent doesn't always translate to the NFL and vice versa. And since we are talking college jobs, the only relevant talent is college.

So one of your arguments is truly stupid, while the other is simply not great. TX is simply producing more top level college prospects than CA; and the difference is more impressive when noting the populations of both states.
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Truly stupid and simply not great because you don't agree.

Neither of us is gonna budge. Good convo until you went the moron route.
 
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Vols520 said:
So when top talent from Texas played top talent from CA and couldn't win that's irrelevant?


You are simply pointing out subjective rankings and taking them as the absolute truth.

You then went to a personal attack for no reason.
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Do you even know how All-Star games work? The game itself doesn't even matter to coaches and scouts. They watch the practices, and some don't even stick around for the games.

And that particular games was even more irrelevant, because the top guys from TX rarely participated. To suggest that those games were more indicative of player talent than years of scouting is far beyond asinine.
 
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bamawriter said:
Do you even know how All-Star games work? The game itself doesn't even matter to coaches and scouts. They watch the practices, and some don't even stick around for the games.

And that particular games was even more irrelevant, because the top guys from TX rarely participated. To suggest that those games were more indicative of player talent than years of scouting is far beyond asinine.
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Trust me. My bro played college football and my stepdad has been a varsity coach for years.

I know how recruiting works.

Your lone argument was number of 4 and 5 stars which is subjective and doesn't take into account how many 4 and 5 starts flop.

At the end if the day i think CA has more talent. You can disagree but your points are no more valid than mine.
 
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Vols520 said:
Truly stupid and simply not great because you don't agree.

Neither of us is gonna budge. Good convo until you went the moron route.
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I don't agree because your argument is logically absurd. And it was never a great convo for the very reason that your argument is moronic.
 
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Vols520 said:
Trust me. My bro played college football and my stepdad has been a varsity coach for years.

I know how recruiting works.

Your lone argument was number of 4 and 5 stars which is subjective and doesn't take into account how many 4 and 5 starts flop.

At the end if the day i think CA has more talent. You can disagree but your points are no more valid than mine.
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The rate of 4 and 5 star flops only helps your argument if fewer 4 and 5 stars from CA flop or low star players surprise when compared to their counterparts from TX. Maybe that's the case. If it is, then you should have gone with that argument the whole time.
 
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bamawriter said:
The rate of 4 and 5 star flops only helps your argument if fewer 4 and 5 stars from CA flop or low star players surprise when compared to their counterparts from TX. Maybe that's the case. If it is, then you should have gone with that argument the whole time.
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You seem like a decent guy. We just disagree. Trust me I know CA football though.
 
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Vols520 said:
I go to Dallas several times a year for work. I love Texas.

But think ca produces more talent.
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You simply aren't doing a good job defending your argument. The all-star game argument might be the worst rationale other than "California gets it."
 
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