Tee Martin

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VolMarine1371 said:
So how do we hire a guy like Steele and pay him $900K for nothing when he’s not retained. But Tee gets left out in the cold. Fulmer and Pruitt was allowed to hire Steele during investigation but wasn’t allowed to extend Tee. Somethings sounds fishy to me about that .
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Steele was not involved with the investigation. We needed someone not tied to the then current staff to come in and hold things together while the current staff was under investigation. No way you could extend or offer the interim to a current staff member while under investigation.
 
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GAVol said:
Some of these guys should just live in RVs. It's amazing how many different stops a lot of these guys make who manage to last 10+ years. I'd bet that most of them give up after a move or two if they don't latch onto a good head coach.
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But once you are in the club. You are in the club. Next stop brother.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
Dude, the only person that listens to Albert Haynesworth is Albert Haynesworth.
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Allegedly Swain was beating the same or similar drum this morning.

Part of the problem with this place is, it's expected that the coach hire unqualified VFLs for his staff. Personally I don't want any of them there but thats JMO, none of these kids today know or care who Tee Martin is
 
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TMvol10 said:
Steele was not involved with the investigation. We needed someone not tied to the then current staff to come in and hold things together while the current staff was under investigation. No way you could extend or offer the interim to a current staff member while under investigation.
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And yet it’s better to hire a guy that’s gonna get $900K for doing nothing. Would have been better to name a coach interim on staff till we had another AD and HC instead of wasting money like they did. If Tee would have been in involved they would have fired him to but instead he wasn’t. No way you let a coach and AD hire a guy while they are under investigation and then hire him on a 2 year deal worth $900K.
 
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VolMarine1371 said:
So how do we hire a guy like Steele and pay him $900K for nothing when he’s not retained. But Tee gets left out in the cold. Fulmer and Pruitt was allowed to hire Steele during investigation but wasn’t allowed to extend Tee. Somethings sounds fishy to me about that .
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Steele was not on the staff when the violations took place, Tee was, guilt or not unknown. Steele is like a solid starter on the o line in the NFL. He is best at right guard but is serviceable at center or left guard. Steele was useful to UT as the situation unfolded. He could be acting head coach, interim head coach, defensive coordinator, recruiting evaluation. Was he well paid for this role? Yes, he was part of the risk mitigation strategy and compensated for his role. They were not paying for a taxi squad talent and paid accordingly.
 
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VolMarine1371 said:
So how do we hire a guy like Steele and pay him $900K for nothing when he’s not retained. But Tee gets left out in the cold. Fulmer and Pruitt was allowed to hire Steele during investigation but wasn’t allowed to extend Tee. Somethings sounds fishy to me about that .
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Nothing in the continuing investigation could implicate Steele with the NCAA violations. Nobody on staff would have been elevated to interim.
 
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BigVolSack said:
From the looks of this tweet by Peerless, Tee may not be getting retained. His contract expires this week. View attachment 345861
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Mixed emotions about Tee Martin, wish I knew more about what Tee has or hasn’t done to help UT win football games
There is always 2 sides to every story and average fans just don’t have enough information to make a true judgement
Regardless, I wish Tee the best and future success
 
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Volsfaninva917 said:
JMO, none of these kids today know or care who Tee Martin is
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That right there is unfortunately a truth bomb. His name matters a lot more to 40 year olds than it does to 18 year olds. But, in Tee’s defense, the fact that he’s managed to stay employed at the D1 level for 10+ years says that he’s been effective at building relationships and not just relying on his name.
 
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GAVol said:
That right there is unfortunately a truth bomb. His name matters a lot more to 40 year olds than it does to 18 year olds. But, in Tee’s defense, the fact that he’s managed to stay employed at the D1 level for 10+ years says that he’s been effective at building relationships and not just relying on his name.
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Another truth bomb, if Tee hadn't played here he wouldn't have been employed the last 2 years
 
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GUNTERSVOL said:
Nothing in the continuing investigation could implicate Steele with the NCAA violations. Nobody on staff would have been elevated to interim.
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Well it sounds like UT already knows who is all involved hence the firing of 10 people form football team. The lawyers has already given them enough for them to know who was and wasn’t involved and if Tee was he would have gotten dame treatment as Pruitt. Just because you name an interim coach for 2 weeks before hiring another coach isn’t gonna make much of difference in the eyes of the NCAA I don’t figure considering the season was over with and Tee contract was up at the end of the month anyways, long before the start of new season.
 
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Majors said:
I get that. But do you interview every position coach because they want an interview or do you interview serious candidates for the job.

Tee's history for the last 10 years has been WR Coach with the few years he was given PGC at USC and then OC at USC in his final two years where he was fired. Love the player, but his coaching history says to me he's a great recruiter but schools are hesitant on giving him bigger roles. Tee needs to humble himself and go somewhere small and work up and get away from being the WR coach.
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What does Tee have to do? He was 2nd for Recruiter of the Year in '14 and '15. He won it in '16. In 2017, USC posted its highest total offense average (484.1) since 2005, had at least 600 yards of total offense 3 times and ranked fifth nationally in first downs, 13th in total offense and 16th in passing offense. USC set school season records for passing yards (4,157) and passing first downs (192). Quarterback Sam Darnold, who was a finalist for the Manning Award and made All-Pac-12 first team, became USC’s first-ever 4,000-yard season passer. Wide receiver Deontay Burnett had 86 catches for 1,114 yards with 9 TDs, while tailback Ronald Jones II ran for 1,584 yards. USC played in the 2017 Cotton Bowl.
He was fired because the team was 5-7 in '17 without Darnold and other support. Hilton needed a scapgoat to save his job and Tee was it. But, in the end fired is fired. Don't just say he's a garbage coach when we has been successful every job he's had. Not saying he's the greatest coach ever, just being fair to give credit where its due instead of following the party line of digging him out.
 
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BigVolSack said:
From the looks of this tweet by Peerless, Tee may not be getting retained. His contract expires this week. View attachment 345861
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I CANNOT believe that he actually thought he should get the HC spot. Especially considering that word is, his last OC spot at USC he lost play calling duties. Also rumors that he was missing meetings and such. Love Tee, would like to see him stay. Not as HC though. He needs a HC job at a small school first.
 
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onthehill71 said:
Steele was not on the staff when the violations took place, Tee was, guilt or not unknown. Steele is like a solid starter on the o line in the NFL. He is best at right guard but is serviceable at center or left guard. Steele was useful to UT as the situation unfolded. He could be acting head coach, interim head coach, defensive coordinator, recruiting evaluation. Was he well paid for this role? Yes, he was part of the risk mitigation strategy and compensated for his role. They were not paying for a taxi squad talent and paid accordingly.
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He worked for 2 weeks roughly. What did he do that’s as so special to warrant a $900K salary for 2 weeks worth of work. The season had ended and classes was not in session for most part and most of players was home after the season ended to visit family. So what risk mitigation did he take part in that short period of time and no season.
 
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I’ll always be appreciative of Tee and what he has done over the years at Tennessee but I have a hard time building sympathy for a guy that has been as highly compensated as he has been over the years. We all know this stuff happens during staff shakeups. I’ve seen it happen in my own profession. It’s just the nature of business.
 
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MiramarVol said:
What does Tee have to do? He was 2nd for Recruiter of the Year in '14 and '15. He won it in '16. In 2017, USC posted its highest total offense average (484.1) since 2005, had at least 600 yards of total offense 3 times and ranked fifth nationally in first downs, 13th in total offense and 16th in passing offense. USC set school season records for passing yards (4,157) and passing first downs (192). Quarterback Sam Darnold, who was a finalist for the Manning Award and made All-Pac-12 first team, became USC’s first-ever 4,000-yard season passer. Wide receiver Deontay Burnett had 86 catches for 1,114 yards with 9 TDs, while tailback Ronald Jones II ran for 1,584 yards. USC played in the 2017 Cotton Bowl.
He was fired because the team was 5-7 in '17 without Darnold and other support. Hilton needed a scapgoat to save his job and Tee was it. But, in the end fired is fired. Don't just say he's a garbage coach when we has been successful every job he's had. Not saying he's the greatest coach ever, just being fair to give credit where its due instead of following the party line of digging him out.
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Never said he was garbage, just stated exactly what you said in less words. Great recruiter who's labeled/tabbed a WR coach among P5 schools, and Tee seems to not be interested in lower D1 schools. He was given his chance as PGC and then OC and got fired. So who made who, Darnold make Tee or Tee make Darnold? You said, without Darnold he was 5-7, if he's 8-4, 9-3 without Sam he may be a HC right now. He never stopped off at a small school to build his resume after he was fired earn his shot, so that's on him. I don't blame him for taking 450K here and not maybe taking a paycut to go to a lower D1 school, but he can't whine when others get the job that did.


I love Tee the player, Tee the coach is at a crossroads. Great time to re-evaluate plans and look at the path to a head coach.
 
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VolMarine1371 said:
He worked for 2 weeks roughly. What did he do that’s as so special to warrant a $900K salary for 2 weeks worth of work. The season had ended and classes was not in session for most part and most of players was home after the season ended to visit family. So what risk mitigation did he take part in that short period of time and no season.
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Waiting for the recommendations of the inhouse investigations, will there be a Pruitt? Steele did not know what role he would play at the end of the exercise, he was paid to perform an unknown role for an unknown duration... uncertainty comes at a price. It turned out to be a few weeks work, after the fact. If the new coach had wanted him, a possibility, he was here.
 
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No matter if he is good or not, he isn't owed anything. Dude was just paid like 500k to teach our WRs to not get open for JG and go 3-7. New HC gets to pick coaches. I don't know the details here, but we gotta move on.
 
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