Teacher fired for giving zeros

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Vol_Doc said:
Not sure of the numbers, but similar situation here in Louisville. Strong private and parochial schools. We pulled our oldest son out of kindergarten when he started telling stories of the behavior he was seeing and saying he didn't want to go to school anymore. He's thrived in private school. In 9th grade now and taking advanced physics. I didn't take physics until I was a junior! Needless to say, we put our younger son straight into the same school.

As far as where the money goes, here a large part goes to bussing kids across town for socioeconomic integration (racial integration was struck down several years ago and quickly replaced by this). Some kids spend 2-3 hours a day on the bus. Ridiculous.
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I would fail school if I spent that much time in a bus.
 
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LouderVol said:
I would fail school if I spent that much time in a bus.
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Some of his kindergarten classmates were sleeping on the floor, because they were exhausted. Makes no sense.

Edit: How about taking that bus money and making neighborhood schools better?
 
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Vol_Doc said:
Some of his kindergarten classmates were sleeping on the floor, because they were exhausted. Makes no sense.

Edit: How about taking that bus money and making neighborhood schools better?
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The issue is the extra bussing isn't enough of a dollar amount to make a better school system. what are we talking here per school? maybe 10k, maybe.
 
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LouderVol said:
The issue is the extra bussing isn't enough of a dollar amount to make a better school system. what are we talking here per school? maybe 10k, maybe.
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I'm betting it's more than 10k. Here's the transportation budget:

JCPS transportation budget: $62.1 million ($37.7 million for transportation, $24.4 million for vehicle maintenance)
 
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Vol_Doc said:
I'm betting it's more than 10k. Here's the transportation budget:

JCPS transportation budget: $62.1 million ($37.7 million for transportation, $24.4 million for vehicle maintenance)
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it may be. depends on how big the school system is. the main cost is getting the buses going, once you have the drivers and the equipment running a longer route is going to add a huge amount of cost. and at least when I was in school the long range rides were limited to single buses.

at this point I am more wondering what amount of money it would take to make better schools. cause in my mind its not just funding that is holding us back. this no zero policy and other administrative stuff has taken more away from the quality than funding imo. High schools are starting to reflect colleges with huge administrations and other non-education costs stacking up
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
They just need an Edward James Olmos or a Loius Gossett Jr type teacher! You know, someone who "can relate". The kids really want to learn!..
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Reminds me of the time a friend of mine taught at an inner city school. For the parents that did show up for parent-teacher-conferences, they all said the same thing: my child doesn’t need to worry about school, he’s going to play in the NFL/NBA.
 
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davethevol said:
Reminds me of the time a friend of mine taught at an inner city school. For the parents that did show up for parent-teacher-conferences, they all said the same thing: my child doesn’t need to worry about school, he’s going to play in the NFL/NBA.
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And then you got kids whose dream is to collect a check from Uncle Sam
 
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davethevol said:
Reminds me of the time a friend of mine taught at an inner city school. For the parents that did show up for parent-teacher-conferences, they all said the same thing: my child doesn’t need to worry about school, he’s going to play in the NFL/NBA.
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Sports, Rap, slinging dope..pipeline out of the hood....
 
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DancingOutlaw said:
My mom was talking about this, in her old school system the lowest grade you can get now is a 60. So you take a test, answer none of the questions, and you get a 60. Here in Hamilton county there are roughly 43k students and all of them passed last year. Yet 70% of the high school graduates that go to Chatt State have to take remedial math and English.
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And those remedial math and English classes at Chatt State and other places I'm sure are watered down from what they used to be.
 
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NurseGoodVol said:
I approached it differently, my little 60 lb daughter was coming home with multiple bruises, all from a boy that was targeting her. I watched it at recess. He would find her knock her Down. The schools teachers standing there did nothing.
I met with the principle who promised to correct the problem. It continued. I met with the principle again and said since you find it hard to stop this I'm Gonna teach my child how to deal with a bully. She warned me to let the school handle it. I said we've given you a chance and I'm going to make that decision now. The next day he stabbed her with a pencil in her leg.
I taught her how to bring him to his knees and finish it. She did, next time he touched her. Of course there was a parents meeting. I was threatened with a law suit and told the parents with pictures what their son had done to my daughter. They left quietly after i said bring it. The school had no legal standing to suspend my daughter because they failed to protect her. The bully never touched her again.
No one messed with my daughter after that. She understood the difference between bullying and defence.
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Effing A, job well done!
 
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NurseGoodVol said:
My daughter has never suffered from learning that lesson, same thing i taught my other 2 daughters. Thank you!
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In a thread a few months ago, I mentioned that I would implement a very similar approach when my son starts school and experiences bullying (if he does). I was told how much of a mistake it would be, in the event I used this approach.

I’m wise enough to know two things: the school systems suck and bullies are p***ies. I’m just gracious enough to give a fair warning as opposed to giving my son the green light to run roughshod. Also, at that point, I will have a layer of “protection” (i.e. teacher was aware, a subsequent meeting with said teacher and administrators was held, etc.) to preclude a crooked ass system from screwing my son out of a fair shake at an education, much like you did.
 
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Squints said:
In a thread a few months ago, I mentioned that I would implement a very similar approach when my son starts school and experiences bullying (if he does). I was told how much of a mistake it would be, in the event I used this approach.

I’m wise enough to know two things: the school systems suck and bullies are p***ies. I’m just gracious enough to give a fair warning as opposed to giving my son the green light to run roughshod. Also, at that point, I will have a layer of “protection” (i.e. teacher was aware, a subsequent meeting with said teacher and administrators was held, etc.) to preclude a crooked ass system from screwing my son out of a fair shake at an education, much like you did.
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They were given plenty of warning, i couldn't let her take anymore. They threatened to suspend her, i had already talked to my lawyer, the principle backed up so fast her head spun. I think 4 warnings is plenty.
 
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Squints said:
In a thread a few months ago, I mentioned that I would implement a very similar approach when my son starts school and experiences bullying (if he does). I was told how much of a mistake it would be, in the event I used this approach.

I’m wise enough to know two things: the school systems suck and bullies are p***ies. I’m just gracious enough to give a fair warning as opposed to giving my son the green light to run roughshod. Also, at that point, I will have a layer of “protection” (i.e. teacher was aware, a subsequent meeting with said teacher and administrators was held, etc.) to preclude a crooked ass system from screwing my son out of a fair shake at an education, much like you did.
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You made me think of a famous mike Tyson line " everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth"
 
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I don't even understand homework for K-12 in the first place, aside from big projects, book reports, etc. They have the kids in class for like 35 hours a week. That's plenty of time for government education. Daily homework is outdated, IMO.
 
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Every spring II see numerous public high school seniors walk across the stage at graduation that are headed to the best colleges in the nation, often on scholarship (even some full rides). Public education has some issues and some things that personally I would like to see changed However, any individual that wishes to work hard and take advantage of what is offered, the sky is the limit. That's what all of you guys say is beautiful about our economic system, why does the same not hold true for public education?
 
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luthervol said:
Every spring II see numerous public high school seniors walk across the stage at graduation that are headed to the best colleges in the nation, often on scholarship (even some full rides). Public education has some issues and some things that personally I would like to see changed However, any individual that wishes to work hard and take advantage of what is offered, the sky is the limit. That's what all of you guys say is beautiful about our economic system, why does the same not hold true for public education?
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You live in the south, don’t you?
 
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n_huffhines said:
I don't even understand homework for K-12 in the first place, aside from big projects, book reports, etc. They have the kids in class for like 35 hours a week. That's plenty of time for government education. Daily homework is outdated, IMO.
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Yeah, those students who don't finish their work during class, when given ample amount of time, should be able to hold up the whole class so they can do the work they should've done the previous day.
 
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Rishvol said:
Yeah, those students who don't finish their work during class, when given ample amount of time, should be able to hold up the whole class so they can do the work they should've done the previous day.
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That's not homework, that's class work.
 
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Vol_Doc said:
Not sure of the numbers, but similar situation here in Louisville. Strong private and parochial schools. We pulled our oldest son out of kindergarten when he started telling stories of the behavior he was seeing and saying he didn't want to go to school anymore. He's thrived in private school. In 9th grade now and taking advanced physics. I didn't take physics until I was a junior! Needless to say, we put our younger son straight into the same school.

As far as where the money goes, here a large part goes to bussing kids across town for socioeconomic integration (racial integration was struck down several years ago and quickly replaced by this). Some kids spend 2-3 hours a day on the bus. Ridiculous.
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That is the new plan for Hamilton. Bus kids from poorly performing schools to other ones to achieve “equality”. All that will achieve is to go from one tanking school to two, and convincing more parents to put their kids in prep schools which will further makes things worse.
 
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