Taking a Look at #53

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#153
MikeVol44 said:
Nick Reveiz was NOT a good LB!!!! :crazy:

He was a fan favorite because of his name and his stature as the "little man who thought he could, thought he could..."

His getting on the field was an evidence of just how terrible our talent at LB truly was during his time...
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I detest cosigning your post but it's closer to reality than most of the others in this thread about Reveiz.
 
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Did I hear correctly volquest said that jumper wasn't starting mlb against tech that bates was or that bates will be playing mlb for this game maybe not starting kind of unclear.....also said other lb will possibly emerge starters after game one this is just what they feel us best fit for tech game only
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
Actually, no, I haven't.

You showed me 10 plays, sure, but only a few of those were Jumper playing poorly. Let's say four of the ten.

Most of the others were you ignoring the fact of gap assignment defense. Your assumption seems to be that the MLB is free to spy the QB and RB every play. That's not my understanding of how our defense works.

On a typical play call in our D, each player in the box (4 down linemen, 2 or 3 LBs, maybe the NB, and maybe even a S) are assigned gaps. Each covers his gap, makes sure the play can't go that way. Only after defending that gap are they free to pursue the ball carrier going another way. Gap assignment defense.

Half of the plays you listed as Jumper being "out of position," he was covering his gap and the ball carrier went a totally different direction. That simply isn't Jumper's fault. On one of those, he even hustled across the field and (as you noted) made the tackle in spite of the RB going off the far side OT, well away from CJ's gap.

And then there was this play, your #4. Very interesting play for you to pick, because Jumper was blocked in the back by a lineman, and might otherwise have made the tackle at the LoS.

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I know some of them are really blurry, we work with what Youtube gives us, heh.

Orange arrow is always pointing at Jumper's back foot. Key point: in the first two captures, his body is facing to the right.

Red arrow is always pointing at the RB's helmet.

Green arrow is always pointing at the back shoulder of the FL offensive lineman who blocks Jumper in the back JUST as the RB gets to the line.

That block pushes Jumper out of the play at the key moment.

Now, I'm not saying Jumper would've made the tackle; that RB made a really nifty, nimble and quick shift inside, away from him. No way of knowing if Colton could've brought him down. But he was certainly in position to, until the 300-pound lineman landed on his back.

So...by my tally, you still owe me 6 more plays of Jumper playing poorly.

And this with me allowing you to cherry pick wherever you like. :)

Will wait for your next installment (note: the 4 plays I think you got more or less right were #1, #3, #7, and I gave you a freebie).



You're right, Rex, but in this case, it's okay because this is the game Mike and I are playing. He gets to cherry-pick plays, 10 bad ones, for every good one I cherry-pick. Because he (Mike) stated that the ratio is 10:1. So I'm making him prove it. :)

But of course, you're right. If you cherry-pick wherever you like, you can find just about anything to make whatever point you wish. [in spite of this, Mike only scord 4 out of 10 on his first try, heh].

Go Vols!


EDIT and p.s., You should never use Gary Danielson as evidence of your point of view. On the play you mentioned, he talked about how Georgia ran it "right up the middle at Tennessee's inside linebackers," when the play was off right tackle...in other words, an outside run. That's Gary Danielson, for you.
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I read this in my best Madden voice with "Boom" after every other sentence. :)
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
Actually, no, I haven't.

You showed me 10 plays, sure, but only a few of those were Jumper playing poorly. Let's say four of the ten.
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I KNEW this is what you would do....

Have you ever played the position?

For that matter, have you ever played any position on the FB field where you were required to to sit through the film and listen to your coach show you all the plays where you got it very wrong?

Bob Zvolerin taught me how to play the LB position at Bradley High School....Look him up....you probably don't have a clue as to who he was....

I'm honestly done with you, JP....there's just no further point to saying anything to you...you just don't have the knowledge to properly evaluate what I'm saying and why I'm saying it...

GO VOLS! :salute:
 
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MikeVol44 said:
I KNEW this is what you would do....

Have you ever played the position?

For that matter, have you ever played any position on the FB field where you were required to to sit through the film and listen to your coach show you all the plays where you got it very wrong?

Bob Zvolerin taught me how to play the LB position at Bradley High School....Look him up....you probably don't have a clue as to who he was....

I'm honestly done with you, JP....there's just no further point to saying anything to you...you just don't have the knowledge to properly evaluate what I'm saying and why I'm saying it...

GO VOLS! :salute:
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Nope, never played LB. I was an offensive guard and defensive end.

But I'm sure you have vastly more knowledge of the Tennessee defense than I do, because of your time at Bradley High School.

You didn't even know we typically run a gap assignment run defense, then?
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
Actually, no, I haven't.

And then there was this play, your #4. Very interesting play for you to pick, because Jumper was blocked in the back by a lineman, and might otherwise have made the tackle at the LoS.

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You're explanation and evaluation of this play is truly laughable and honestly demonstrates just how ignorant of the game of FB and the position of LB you truly are....

53's responsibilities are to stuff the run that comes to his side from the Center all the way to the hash marks on his side--because the CB or S (depending on what coverage is called) must come up and set the edge (called the Force) and oddly enough, FORCE the RB to turn back up inside the hash--where any good LB will be there to make the tackle after a minimal gain.

However, on this play--ALL 53 has to do is step up aggressively and take on the block and shove the blocker back inside toward the Center to stuff that gap--while keeping his right shoulder free to make the tackle when the RB bounces the ball outside to the Guard--Tackle gap.

Honestly--this play exposes poor 'ol 53 even more than play #1 does...because the 1st responsibility of any LB is to stop the dive play on your side from Center to Tackle...and then be able to scrape down the line to make the tackle outside the tackle box if necessary...

He does neither....and actually runs himself out of position...and make the Fla OL's block on him easy.

You know, JP, it's actually better to keep your mouth shut and allow everyone to think you might know something instead of opening it up and removing all doubt.

Here endeth the lesson....:shakehead:
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
You didn't even know we typically run a gap assignment run defense, then?
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You didn't even know that a LBs run assignment is not isolated to just one gap....but multiple gaps....

He isn't a DL, or a DE...with only individual gap assignments...LBs have to be able to run from Center to Sideline to make the tackle wherever....

You don't even know that?
 
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MikeVol44 said:
You didn't even know that a LBs run assignment is not isolated to just one gap....but multiple gaps....

He isn't a DL, or a DE...with only individual gap assignments...LBs have to be able to run from Center to Sideline to make the tackle wherever....

You don't even know that?
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Mike, you're sounding increasingly strident. I'm gonna leave you to cool off a bit. Maybe go get a glass of juice. Breathe a little.

I think you're over-assuming your knowledge of how our defense works. Then again, maybe I am. Either way, we're just gonna keep talking back and forth, resolving nothing.

So I'm gonna let you cool down, me too, we can have a beer or a soda or something and avoid bringing out the bold all-caps stuff. :)
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
Mike, you're sounding increasingly strident.

I think you're over-assuming your knowledge of how our defense works.
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Yes...my posts were intended to be strident...
I truly thought you knew more about FB than you actually do....

To wit...you actually think that LBs only have one gap to be responsible for in defending the run....and nothing could be more false...

Even DL have a responsibility to cover more than one particular gap in our Base 4-3 or 4-2-5 alignment that usually include both sides of the OL lined up opposite to them. Those gap assignments will change according to designed stunts, slants, and/or blitzes called by the DC.

But honestly...I stand by everything I've said to you...

LBs are not linemen...and have more than individual gap responsibilities...they have to be able to cover from inside out all the way to each sideline on running plays...The fact that you don't seem to know that makes you ignorant of the position...

And your snarky comments about my knowledge of our "defensive gap assignments" truly make you sound intelligent in your own mind, but actually expose your own ineptitude...

And I certainly don't have to sit here and listen to you attempt to correct me when you're just too ignorant to know the assignments of the LB position.

Put me on ignore.....I honestly don't care....:whatever:
 
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#169
Colton Jumper is OUR new middle linebacker.
The Captain of Team 121's defense.

No more jokes about him being a slow, weak, rich, pale, white, red headed, ginger boy.

He is and will be awesome from here on out.
To that end, I think he deserves his own theme song for us to play every time he makes a tackle.
I warn you that this song will get in your head just like Jumper will in the opposing backfield.
Go Colton!
Go Vols!


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ojfDM6lMoZM
 
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#173
Costs us 2 games. 9-3/8-4 look less realistic now. Does Butch survive 6-6/7-5? Not hating on Jump this time. I truly hope he proves me wrong, but DK was the lynch pin in the middle.
 
#174
#174
I hope the guy goes out there and plays like Al Wilson. However based on what we've seen so far I'm going to be concerned about this choice until proven wrong.
 
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