Stranger Things

The most forced scene was that one group scene in the last episode of Vol 2. I won’t name it.
My issue when they inject this into shows is that never feels natural. That scene did nothing to add to the story and it just serves to virtue signal.

Not to mention, its the 1980's. How many kids do you really expect have accepted that they are gay in the 1980's in a small town in Indiana?
 
My issue when they inject this into shows is that never feels natural. That scene did nothing to add to the story and it just serves to virtue signal.

Not to mention, its the 1980's. How many kids do you really expect have accepted that they are gay in the 1980's in a small town in Indiana?
Except that it’s been hinted at since the very first episode of the show and they spoon fed it to you with clear exposition exactly why he was doing it right then.

Curious if you brought the same energy for Robin in season 2?
 
My issue when they inject this into shows is that never feels natural. That scene did nothing to add to the story and it just serves to virtue signal.

Not to mention, its the 1980's. How many kids do you really expect have accepted that they are gay in the 1980's in a small town in Indiana?
Its terrible.
 
My issue when they inject this into shows is that never feels natural. That scene did nothing to add to the story and it just serves to virtue signal.

Not to mention, its the 1980's. How many kids do you really expect have accepted that they are gay in the 1980's in a small town in Indiana?

I know they wouldn't but I would have given them a standing ovation if their reaction was "Yeah we've known that a while man".
 
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My wife and I started rewatching from the beginning and I think a huge part of the appeal in S1 was the creative choices they had to make due to budget limitations. It made for a more authentic show.

This season’s budget is so bloated it feels more like an overstuffed blockbuster than a creepy 80s inspired TV series.

That said I’ve still enjoyed it and look forward to the finale.

I think you're onto something, because one of my biggest gripes is the constant shots of characters standing up or walking slowly staring at something that I know isn't really there. I've almost made it a drinking game.
 
I think Robin's felt much more authentic.
What was inauthentic about it? It’s been building toward it forever. Particularly in this season with Will asking Robin how to do it.

At first I thought it was a little odd to gather the whole cast together and not just keep it to his closets friends and family. Would have made it a more intimate scene. But I do think laying it out there for everyone was necessary for the moment.

It was literally spelled out in the dialog that Vecna’s strength is preying on insecurities, shame, and fear. First Will had to accept himself which he finally did in S5E4 allowing him some form of fighting back but he was still hiding it from his loved ones which left the opening for Vecna.

The fact that they laid the ground work for Will in season 1 when Joyce told Hopper he was picked on for being a sensitive kid and called a f*g. They returned to it at least once each season and made it very clear he crushed on Mike in S4. Honestly it’s the most clearly defined character arc of the series.

Not to mention, it was a 5 minute scene at the end of an episode where all the characters had a moment of tying up their arc. They didn’t revolve the whole episode around it.

So when I see comments like “they inject it” as if it came out of nowhere makes me think people just don’t pay attention. Then their biases melt their snowflake brain.
 
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I think the only scene that feels natural is the Dustin and Steve scene. You can tell a few of the actors have had enough of the show. And 8 seems forced in the show. Really would be a better show without her character.

The biggest problem is all of the original kids are bad actors and so everything seems forced all the time.

I remember hearing an interview with 11. Her family had given up on her acting when she got this casting call. She said a studio exec told her she doesn't have it, and I'm like, "You don't have it. Go run you doggy refuge."
 
What was inauthentic about it? It’s been building toward it forever. Particularly in this season with Will asking Robin how to do it.

At first I thought it was a little odd to gather the whole cast together and not just keep it to his closets friends and family. Would have made it a more intimate scene. But I do think laying it out there for everyone was necessary for the moment.

It was literally spelled out in the dialog that Vecna’s strength is preying on insecurities, shame, and fear. First Will had to accept himself which he finally did in S5E4 allowing him some form of fighting back but he was still hiding it from his loved ones which left the opening for Vecna.

The fact that they laid the ground work for Will in season 1 when Joyce told Hopper he was picked on for being a sensitive kid and called a f*g. They returned to it at least once each season and made it very clear he crushed on Mike in S4. Honestly it’s the most clearly defined character arc of the series.

Not to mention, it was a 5 minute scene at the end of an episode where all the characters had a moment of tying up their arc. They didn’t revolve the whole episode around it.

So when I see comments like “they inject it” as if it came out of nowhere makes me think people just don’t pay attention. Then their biases melt their snowflake brain.

I don't criticize it as interjecting, I think the whole scenes of all of them "wrapping up" was unnecessary exposition. I think all that was a bit lazy and drawn out. I don't give a crap about him being gay and yeah snowflakes lose their s*** over it, but that's not why I thought it was weak. I think the entire season has been pretty weak from a dialogue/pacing stance. I feel like they have built this up to be epic and in reality I don't think they had 8 episodes enough of material so its' starting to feel a bit drug out.
 
The biggest problem is all of the original kids are bad actors and so everything seems forced all the time.

I remember hearing an interview with 11. Her family had given up on her acting when she got this casting call. She said a studio exec told her she doesn't have it, and I'm like, "You don't have it. Go run you doggy refuge."

I agree. I think for the vast majority of them, this will be their career peak. MBB has gotten more roles because of this but almost everything else I've seen with her in it, she wasn't that great. The Holmes movies are silly enough but when she transitions to more adult roles I don't see it happening. I'm not counting Hawke, I think she will be fine in the industry and not just becuase of her last name.

And sorry but even turning off my brain becaues of the reality of the situation, seeing 30 year olds still trying to play high school kids is just...ok. It has always been a joke but seeing the actors start out playing the correct age but then shoot way past it is a new one.
 
I agree. I think for the vast majority of them, this will be their career peak. MBB has gotten more roles because of this but almost everything else I've seen with her in it, she wasn't that great. The Holmes movies are silly enough but when she transitions to more adult roles I don't see it happening. I'm not counting Hawke, I think she will be fine in the industry and not just becuase of her last name.

And sorry but even turning off my brain becaues of the reality of the situation, seeing 30 year olds still trying to play high school kids is just...ok. It has always been a joke but seeing the actors start out playing the correct age but then shoot way past it is a new one.

Yeah, Hawke is a good actress. I'm just calling out the original kids. Some kids are good actors. Some of the original teens (Steve) are good actors. None of the original 5 kids are good actors. I hope they are well-adjusted and like comic-con appearances.
 
I don't criticize it as interjecting, I think the whole scenes of all of them "wrapping up" was unnecessary exposition. I think all that was a bit lazy and drawn out. I don't give a crap about him being gay and yeah snowflakes lose their s*** over it, but that's not why I thought it was weak. I think the entire season has been pretty weak from a dialogue/pacing stance. I feel like they have built this up to be epic and in reality I don't think they had 8 episodes enough of material so it’s' starting to feel a bit drug out.
Sorry I know I quoted you about what’s authentic but the part about “injecting” was from earlier (and just silly hot takes I’ve seen on social media).

Trust me that I recognize flaws in this season. I haven’t hated it but I do feel like there has been a lot of exposition that ways it down.

But Will’s moments have been pretty good actually.
 

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