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#76
#76
and find the guy that can help us reestablish Tennessee Football! That’s what it took for AL, and it took Shula as a bridge but they were able to restore AL football during his time there. I’d like to make a case for someone in the Tennessee family tree, namely a guy who played and coached here. There aren’t many, I know. I’ll throw a name out, though: Kevin Steele.

Fire away VN. I can take it. But before you do, consider what we need to undo and what it’s gonna take. He checks a lot of culture boxes. And he’s an elite Defensive guy.

So in an era when even Saban says defense doesn’t matter, you want to hire another “elite defensive guy”?

I want to take a dude who can hang 50 on people (Art Briles?) and make him hire Muschamp as DC
 
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#77
#77
Know your facts before you post...
Here are the Ole Miss stats as a football team history. "The Ole Miss football program has claimed three national championships (1959, 1960 and 1962), six Southeastern Conference titles (1947, 1954, 1955, 1960, 1962, and 1963), and one SEC Western Division title (2003), produced 58 first-team All-Americans and 177 first-team All-SEC selections, appeared in 37 bowl games with 24 wins, and sent more than 300 players into the professional ranks." 2003 was their most recent SEC West Division title so yes they have been to Atlanta and yes this program has a respectable history.

In the last 50 years Ole Miss is the 9th winningest team in the SEC. Georgia and LSU played the the 2003 SEC Championship game. Ole Miss, Texas A&M, Kentucky and Vandy are the only teams never to have made it.
 
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In the last 50 years Ole Miss is the 9th winningest team in the SEC. Georgia and LSU played the the 2003 SEC Championship game. Ole Miss, Texas A&M, Kentucky and Vandy are the only teams never to have made it.
Yes My bad on the 2003 SEC West forgot they still haven't taken that off yet.
 
#80
#80
So in an era when even Saban says defense doesn’t matter, you want to hire another “elite defensive guy”?

I want to take a dude who can hang 50 on people (Art Briles?) and make him hire Muschamp as DC
No, I don’t want to hire him, he’s the only one I know of that checks some of those boxes. I’m sure there’s someone out there...
 
#81
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Know your facts before you post...
Here are the Ole Miss stats as a football team history. "The Ole Miss football program has claimed three national championships (1959, 1960 and 1962), six Southeastern Conference titles (1947, 1954, 1955, 1960, 1962, and 1963), and one SEC Western Division title (2003), produced 58 first-team All-Americans and 177 first-team All-SEC selections, appeared in 37 bowl games with 24 wins, and sent more than 300 players into the professional ranks." 2003 was their most recent SEC West Division title so yes they have been to Atlanta and yes this program has a respectable history.
Get my facts straight? Hilarious...Have they ever played in the SEC Title game in Atlanta? It’s a yes or no question ?
The answer is of course NO. Ole Miss is one of the original 3 SEC teams not to reach Atlanta along with UK and Vandy. Great company to keep in that little bar bet of knowledge.
 
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I saw Briles recruiting on an episode of Beyond Scared Straight once.
But he is the kind of coach we need, without the likelihood to get the FBI involved.
 
#83
#83
Get my facts straight? Hilarious...Have they ever played in the SEC Title game in Atlanta? It’s a yes or no question ?
The answer is of course NO. Ole Miss is one of the original 3 SEC teams not to reach Atlanta along with UK and Vandy. Great company to keep in that little bar bet of knowledge.
Yes, you got me on that one. Still does not negate that Ole Miss does have a a good football history. The facet is history is all our problems. We live in the past too much and us TN fans probably the most since we haven't won the SEC since 98. We haven't been relevant since 2007 with commits and won the games that can win us the east since consistently. The fact still is Pruitt is still not the guy and neither is Freeze going to be the guy because buy everyone's standards he isn't a championship winning coach either.
 
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#84
You want names that are all at least proving to be good head coaches? I know there's not a huge sample size on a couple of them but they have done something important - been HEAD coaches at the D1 level and have been able to turn bad programs around.

1. Matt Campbell - the miracle worker for what he's accomplished at ISU
2. Luke Fickell - the pedigreed coach with a good track record everywhere he's been
3. Jamey Chadewell - the flavor of the month BUT he can coach. He speaks intelligently and has players that will run through brick walls for him. Coaches a bunch of junkyard dogs. Great defense - "Black Swarm"
4. Hugh Freeze - proven to be able to beat Saban. Wants the job. Has some skeletons but we are kind of at the point where you might as well be willing to take someone with a whole graveyard worth of them
5. Doc Holliday - here's the guy you want if you want someone who can stabilize the program. Great recruiter, great coach. Very solid. Wouldn't be the flashy hire but could get the team back where you want them to be
6. Jimmy Lake - was a genius DC before getting the WU job this year. Not a big sample size but he has been a top flight defensive coach

UT could make a mint off of merchandise with Doc Holliday as a coach
 
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Yes, you got me on that one. Still does not negate that Ole Miss does have a a good football history. The facet is history is all our problems. We live in the past too much and us TN fans probably the most since we haven't won the SEC since 98. We haven't been relevant since 2007 with commits and won the games that can win us the east since consistently. The fact still is Pruitt is still not the guy and neither is Freeze going to be the guy because buy everyone's standards he isn't a championship winning coach either.
I knew I got you. I already knew the answer before you told me to get my facts straight . Look I know everyone is pissed right now, but maybe ease up on trying to bust balls before your facts are in order.
 
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I knew I got you. I already knew the answer before you told me to get my facts straight . Look I know everyone is pissed right now, but maybe ease up on trying to bust balls before your facts are in order.
Trust me most of my facts are in order
 
#91
#91
Hah! I like that graphic. I get it, not a great name. But that wasn’t the point. Someone give us some more names. Why is there no one in our coaching tree wiling to come back and get this **** fixed? We were high on Marrone a few years back. What about him?
Give Tee a shot imo. Can't be much worse
 
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#92
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Having a HC with a defensive background does not put you behind. Now, if you hire someone from the defensive side to be HC, you have to hire a high quality OC and then...and this is the important part....let him run the offense and quit micromanaging the side of the ball you know nothing about.

JP could have been great here, but his micromanaging instead of being CEO has been the cause of his demise.
I agree that can happen...but i have read that OCs have a higher success rate as a HC....ill try to find it but it was for the NFL if that makes a difference and it was a few years ago.....
 
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#95
So you want nothing to do with a Matt Campbell or a Luke Fickell? Just making sure
 
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#96
As I said after getting turned down by my top five picks for the Prom...
So, we’ve downgraded from pretty, to good personality, to wealthy father, to fun, to nice, to breathing.
 
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5. Doc Holliday - here's the guy you want if you want someone who can stabilize the program. Great recruiter, great coach. Very solid. Wouldn't be the flashy hire but could get the team back where you want them to be

UT could make a mint off of merchandise with Doc Holliday as a coach

And as an added bonus he will most definitely be your huckleberry .
 

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