Stephen A. Smith: "Brady Should Sign With The Titans"

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At this point in his career exactly how much better is he than Tannehill? He'd be an upgrade just with his knowledge but for the money I'm just not sure he's worth it. I'm tired of retreading Patriots players, time to develop or find our own through free agency.
 
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KB5252 said:
At this point in his career exactly how much better is he than Tannehill? He'd be an upgrade just with his knowledge but for the money I'm just not sure he's worth it. I'm tired of retreading Patriots players, time to develop or find our own through free agency.
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I would agree with him more if it was similar to the situation in Denver...they had an elite defense and Peyton rode that as a game manager to a Super Bowl victory...not sure Titans are elite on D
 
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Mariota will probably sign elsewhere and I think Brady re signs with New England or maybe goes to New Orleans.
 
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The only thing that would lead me to sign Brady is if I had a young QB coming on that could use his mentorship - someone who plans to draft a hopefully-franchise QB in the 2020 draft.

If I was not a team that played its home games in south-west Ohio, I wouldn't give him a look.

But thats just me. I think he's great - dont get me wrong. But I think he has done all the great stuff he is going to do and I think he is on the down-hill side of his career.

Personally I think he'll just retire.
 
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What on earth would he possibly gain by coming to the Titans? It’s not like we’re a 43 y/o QB away from winning the super bowl.

In fact, what on earth would we gain by signing him? He’s likely worse than Tannehill at this point.
 
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orangepridenation said:
What on earth would he possibly gain by coming to the Titans? It’s not like we’re a 43 y/o QB away from winning the super bowl.

In fact, what on earth would we gain by signing him? He’s likely worse than Tannehill at this point.
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Agreed, that's a bad move for both parties.
Also why would he go to New Orleans? For the gumbo maybe
 
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VolnJC said:
I would agree with him more if it was similar to the situation in Denver...they had an elite defense and Peyton rode that as a game manager to a Super Bowl victory...not sure Titans are elite on D
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Even that situation was completely different. They signed Manning to make the offense elite which he did for 2 2/3 seasons. They started building the defense after losing the SB. Manning was still pretty good until he tore his quad late into his 3rd season. Then he missed most of that 4th season and the defense carried the team to the playoffs where Manning became the game manager for those final games of his career.

But I agree, Titans Defense is not at a place to carry the team. As long as they have Henry and the OL running they are, I think Tannehill is more than efficient enough to throw it as needed.
 
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VolnJC said:
I would agree with him more if it was similar to the situation in Denver...they had an elite defense and Peyton rode that as a game manager to a Super Bowl victory...not sure Titans are elite on D
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If you aren’t sure after yesterday, I can’t help you.
 
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Feel free to throw this in my face if I'm wrong, but I think some of these QBs (Brees/Brady/Rivers) are going to quickly find that they have diminished value. I get the point Smith is making. You have a mauler in Henry who can take the pressure off. If you have some cap room to work with. If you go all in next season (be aggressive in the draft, free agent signings) you can make a solid team very good. Your competition in the AFC South is not much, so you can almost pencil in a postseason bid. I would also be willing to bet Brady would come in cheaper than you'd expect. He'd LOVE to win a SB somewhere outside of NE.

So just a quick scenario for how this could be genius. You draft Fromm or Eason with your first round pick, you draft OL with the next two picks to bolsters an already good line, you sign Brady and some defensive help with your Cap room. You're then looking at a team built for the present and the future.
 
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Tannehill had a great story this year, but how strongly does anybody actually believe in him? I don't think we can assume he's going to continue to be this effective, especially now that there is more film on him in the Titans system. Teams were running engage 8 and Titans were still running. Imagine what Tom Brady would do to a team that tried to run engage 8 against you?

I think I'd rather have Tom Brady on a 2-year $40M deal than Tannehill on a 5 year $100M+ deal, or whatever he's going to get. Who do you trust more if Derrick Henry gets hurt? Who do you trust more to put together a 2-minute drill? Tom Brady's WR's got no separation this year and he still had 4,000 yards.

Bottom line is, I don't think Tannehill can win a SB if you gotta carve out $20m of your cap for him. IDK if Brady can, but who would be surprised if we saw 2018 Brady next year?
 
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n_huffhines said:
Tannehill had a great story this year, but how strongly does anybody actually believe in him? I don't think we can assume he's going to continue to be this effective, especially now that there is more film on him in the Titans system. Teams were running engage 8 and Titans were still running. Imagine what Tom Brady would do to a team that tried to run engage 8 against you?

I think I'd rather have Tom Brady on a 2-year $40M deal than Tannehill on a 5 year $100M+ deal, or whatever he's going to get. Who do you trust more if Derrick Henry gets hurt? Who do you trust more to put together a 2-minute drill? Tom Brady's WR's got no separation this year and he still had 4,000 yards.
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A lot to unpack in this post. Tannehill is NOT getting any five year/100M deal. Let's start there. His best-cast scenario is to resign with the Titans, and they are in the cat bird seat. If Brady got a two-year $40 million deal, it would only be if the second year was optional. Wherever Brady ends up, it will be structured to make his '21 and beyond optional.

Also consider this. The economics for massive QB signings is fading. Jimmy G threw eight passes in the NFC championship game. Kirk Cousins is a massive failure. Aaron Rodgers isn't the best Aaron on the Packers. And the Titans make it to the championship game with a retread. Would you rather have a stud DL, stud OL, a RB or a $50 million QB? Kansas City will be one of (not the last but close to it) teams to give a self-harming contract to a QB.
 
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CrybabyVol said:
A lot to unpack in this post. Tannehill is NOT getting any five year/100M deal. Let's start there. His best-cast scenario is to resign with the Titans, and they are in the cat bird seat. If Brady got a two-year $40 million deal, it would only be if the second year was optional. Wherever Brady ends up, it will be structured to make his '21 and beyond optional.

Also consider this. The economics for massive QB signings is fading. Jimmy G threw eight passes in the NFC championship game. Kirk Cousins is a massive failure. Aaron Rodgers isn't the best Aaron on the Packers. And the Titans make it to the championship game with a retread. Would you rather have a stud DL, stud OL, a RB or a $50 million QB? Kansas City will be one of (not the last but close to it) teams to give a self-harming contract to a QB.
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The only way he's not getting something close to 5/$100m is if they franchise him. 19 QB's in 2019 had a contract where they averaged $20m. 19!

I think it's stupid how much QB's are making. In fact, people here on VN are sick of me talking about it...but I see no sign that the NFL is changing their behavior in this regard. You named 3 QB's that I agree are all overpaid, but I don't think any of their teams regret paying them. They all won at least one playoff game this year.
 
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KB5252 said:
At this point in his career exactly how much better is he than Tannehill? He'd be an upgrade just with his knowledge but for the money I'm just not sure he's worth it. I'm tired of retreading Patriots players, time to develop or find our own through free agency.
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Other than Tannehill playing the best he's ever played for 12 games or so? Quite a bit better. I think you know more of what you're getting with TB than RT (who may regress back to his means).
 
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I think if you take TB off of the Patriots and put him on a team like the Titans, he becomes much more human. The dude is 42 and will be 43 by the time next season starts; I don't care how good of shape he's in, age catches up to everyone.
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
Even that situation was completely different. They signed Manning to make the offense elite which he did for 2 2/3 seasons. They started building the defense after losing the SB. Manning was still pretty good until he tore his quad late into his 3rd season. Then he missed most of that 4th season and the defense carried the team to the playoffs where Manning became the game manager for those final games of his career.

But I agree, Titans Defense is not at a place to carry the team. As long as they have Henry and the OL running they are, I think Tannehill is more than efficient enough to throw it as needed.
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Manning was still playing at an elite level when he joined the Broncos. He won the MVP in 2013 and set all kinds of records. He declined his last year for sure but when he first went to the Broncos he was much better than Brady is now. Brady is also more of a system QB who I don’t think would be successful going to another team at this point. Tannehill is a much better option for the Titans at this point. I don’t really even see Brady as a starter for most other teams at this stage.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
I think if you take TB off of the Patriots and put him on a team like the Titans, he becomes much more human. The dude is 42 and will be 43 by the time next season starts; I don't care how good of shape he's in, age catches up to everyone.
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Absolutely. Outside of NE I think he is average at best.
 
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I would love to see Brady go to another team. Mostly because I would look forward to him completely embarrassing himself outside of the New England system and being exposed as the very average and old QB he really is. I don’t want him to go to the Titans because I like them and they moved in the right direction this year. Why would I want Brady to join them and sabotage their season next year?
 
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The only reason Brady is still playing is because he wants to outdo Peyton Manning.
As far as I'm concerned Manning will always
be better and has more character than Brady
ever will. At least Peyton didn't have to deflate
a football to get into the super bowl.
 
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VolnJC said:
I'm just gonna believe Brady in a different uniform when I see it ..I would think he would retire before signing with another team imo
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I agree, nobody else. Would put up with his
Crap. Why Belichek did it for so long is beyond
me. Maybe a brownie boy.
 
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