Sources: UT Athletics Mulling New Apparel Deal With Adidas

Congrats on being an Army of one.
Army of two actually.

I might have an aged Nike golf shirt of some sort around. Don't have much at all in the way of any of them. I might have a couple Adidas golf shirts. One of them is from Torey Pines Pro Shop. Athletic shoes are pretty much either going to be Asics or Brooks. Checking in on my 60th birthday come August, I have recenlty discovered newly designed Sketcher Slip-Ins. Won't get caught buried in previous Sketcher styles. So I have added those to my Asics/Brooks line-up. Golf Shirt/Polos typically end up being Izod, Grand Slam or Pro Tour. Or whatever is on deep discount at Belk or Kohls. I also discovered 32 Degrees online.
 
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Watching the CWS yesterday and saw Louisville on with some particularly awful looking jerseys. I wondered, "who made those nasty things?" Then I saw the Adidas logo...
Awful is what came to mind when I saw the solid blue UCLA outfit. Couldn't get past that to even look for the logo. I think the portal is to get away from having to wear stuff like that.
 
It’s $8-10 million more dollars per year. At a time that you’re in the process of having to generate $20 million more in revenue per year.

Danny White is the decision-maker, but his senior staff has been involved in the process, particularly his associate ADs in charge of external operations and branding.

He has heard feedback from his coaches, and the pros and cons for them, campus stakeholders who have been very happy with the Nike relationship, and a couple of prominent boosters that own or have stakes in major retailers. He has also consulted with the Vol Shop, who holds the on campus and in venue merchandise contract, and Fanatics, that handles the e-commerce contract.

It is all part of it, but if the difference between Nike and Adidas remains in the $8 million per year range, there’s no way they aren’t switching to Adidas. As much as we all may prefer Nike, it would be malpractice for him to turn down that kind of money in an apparel contract.
You would think the university can also dictate what will and will not be worn in unis, regardless of apparel company. Most SEC schools still trend heavily toward the traditional look regardless of provider. Nothing too egregious will be seen on SEC sidelines.

LSU is easy. Just provide an alt white helment with the white jerseys when they are feeling frisky.
 
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You would think the university can also dictate what will and will not be worn in unis, regardless of apparel company. Most SEC schools still trend heavily toward the traditional look regardless of provider. Nothing too egregious will be seen on SEC sidelines.

LSU is easy. Just provide an alt white helment with the white jerseys when they are feeling frisky.
To my knowledge, Nike used to have a tier system that dictated those rules. I'm not sure it exists now in the same form, but Tier 1 teams had full control (Tennessee, Bama, Ohio State, etc.) which is why you almost never see them in real weird stuff. Tier 2 teams (think Va Techs of the world) had to wear at least one Nike-designed uniform a year, and Nike had most control on design and when it was to be worn, which is how you ended up with them wearing those trash Hokie stone uniforms in Bristol.
 
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Watching the CWS yesterday and saw Louisville on with some particularly awful looking jerseys. I wondered, "who made those nasty things?" Then I saw the Adidas logo...
Louisville has worn that design as a throwback since 2011 and they continue to re-order it every time they get a new set. I'm no fan of adidas, but people need to understand that schools are responsible for what they wear. Not every school designs them like UT does now, but every school can work with designers to customize the looks, colors and logos. If a team wears something dumb, they signed off on it.
 
Louisville has worn that design as a throwback since 2011 and they continue to re-order it every time they get a new set. I'm no fan of adidas, but people need to understand that schools are responsible for what they wear. Not every school designs them like UT does now, but every school can work with designers to customize the looks, colors and logos. If a team wears something dumb, they signed off on it.
Does this mean that every Adidas school signed off on those sweet Black History Month basketball uniforms last year?
 
Saw this vintage Adidas game used baseball jersey on Ebay today -- so ugly
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Army of two actually.

I might have an aged Nike golf shirt of some sort around. Don't have much at all in the way of any of them. I might have a couple Adidas golf shirts. One of them is from Torey Pines Pro Shop. Athletic shoes are pretty much either going to be Asics or Brooks. Checking in on my 60th birthday come August, I have recenlty discovered newly designed Sketcher Slip-Ins. Won't get caught buried in previous Sketcher styles. So I have added those to my Asics/Brooks line-up. Golf Shirt/Polos typically end up being Izod, Grand Slam or Pro Tour. Or whatever is on deep discount at Belk or Kohls. I also discovered 32 Degrees online.
> Athletic shoes are pretty much either going to be Asics or Brooks.

As it should be tbh.
 
Just look at those "new" 2025 Washington uniforms revealed today, adidas can't even get secondary colors right.
 
Just look at those "new" 2025 Washington uniforms revealed today, adidas can't even get secondary colors right.
This is the biggest concern about going to Adidas is the color consistency. We’re not talking about red or blue or black, which are effectively the same no matter what, we’re talking about Tennessee orange which is a very specific shade. Nike has been able to do a very good job at getting it right because they use so few suppliers across their products, particularly when it comes to uniforms. Adidas uses dozens. A different manufacturer supplies their T-shirts, another jackets, another performance apparel, so on and so forth. In uniforms, they use seven or eight across all sports, where Nike has two.

For uniforms that are designed a couple of years out, Adidas uses a manufacturer that does what Nike’s contractor does, fully dye large runs of the performance fabric and then use those to create the larger orders. Pretty standard for football and basketball, sometimes less standard for other sports.

Adidas uses manufacturers that sublimate colors on blank white uniforms. Most people couldn’t tell the difference, and actually Nike does this as well for Nike team uniforms that high schools order. The telltale sign is that the outside of the uniform is the correct color or something close, but the inside of the uniform is actually white. Both of the old alternate baseball jerseys that are pictured above use this technique. The issue that you have there is it can cause some colors to look faded, or if they don’t get the sublimation exactly correct, it ends up looking way off. Baseball had that happen a few times when they were with Adidas the first time, including the last orange baseball jersey that had an incorrectly narrow power T, and a completely wrong color orange. But they didn’t have enough of the previous uniforms to use, so we ended up wearing the wrong color orange one game a week for the whole season.

Regardless, if you use different manufacturers, custom colors can end up looking off. Think of it like this, my law firm does the town of presentations and when we do something at the last minute, we end up praying off the presentation from all five of our printers. Four of the five are the same brand, maintained by the same company, use the same inks, etc. But put side-by-side, those five presentations from five different printers have five completely different color combinations because of the slight differences in how they read the files and then print them. That’s the biggest concern, and I don’t think it’s one that’s easily fixed. But, $8 million a year.
 
This is the biggest concern about going to Adidas is the color consistency. We’re not talking about red or blue or black, which are effectively the same no matter what, we’re talking about Tennessee orange which is a very specific shade. Nike has been able to do a very good job at getting it right because they use so few suppliers across their products, particularly when it comes to uniforms. Adidas uses dozens. A different manufacturer supplies their T-shirts, another jackets, another performance apparel, so on and so forth. In uniforms, they use seven or eight across all sports, where Nike has two.

For uniforms that are designed a couple of years out, Adidas uses a manufacturer that does what Nike’s contractor does, fully dye large runs of the performance fabric and then use those to create the larger orders. Pretty standard for football and basketball, sometimes less standard for other sports.

Adidas uses manufacturers that sublimate colors on blank white uniforms. Most people couldn’t tell the difference, and actually Nike does this as well for Nike team uniforms that high schools order. The telltale sign is that the outside of the uniform is the correct color or something close, but the inside of the uniform is actually white. Both of the old alternate baseball jerseys that are pictured above use this technique. The issue that you have there is it can cause some colors to look faded, or if they don’t get the sublimation exactly correct, it ends up looking way off. Baseball had that happen a few times when they were with Adidas the first time, including the last orange baseball jersey that had an incorrectly narrow power T, and a completely wrong color orange. But they didn’t have enough of the previous uniforms to use, so we ended up wearing the wrong color orange one game a week for the whole season.

Regardless, if you use different manufacturers, custom colors can end up looking off. Think of it like this, my law firm does the town of presentations and when we do something at the last minute, we end up praying off the presentation from all five of our printers. Four of the five are the same brand, maintained by the same company, use the same inks, etc. But put side-by-side, those five presentations from five different printers have five completely different color combinations because of the slight differences in how they read the files and then print them. That’s the biggest concern, and I don’t think it’s one that’s easily fixed. But, $8 million a year.
But Nike is doing a lot of the same thing! And yes on high school stuff they pretty much crap in a can and send it off to the schools. My old high school and the one my son goes to now has their crap, they have a hard time literally matching blue and GOLD. Even Russell who they used to be had no issue with it, not sure who cannot get gold right. Glad their college stuff can get right even though their quality sucks as$.
 
They’re actually $140 and look like $hit, but then again most things adidas does looks that way
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Yes, they are running shoes and so they are expensive. They are also comfortable as can be, my son used them for track this past season, really good trainers before he put on his cleats. I myself bought 2 pairs of cloud foam adidas last week, absolutely great shoes and I moved my old shoes to working on the race car and mowing and threw the crap Nikes I was wearing for those jobs away. Only pair in the house now is the sons Jordan’s.
 
Living in New Jersey, this is likely the first Tennessee hat I ever saw. Should be a state law-every baby born in Tennessee gets one . Simple and classic look.
 
You may be right, but I haven’t seen that. If Heupel did say that, that’s all I’d need to see. And I would say that there is almost zero percent chance anyone associated with basketball would be happy with this potential move.
I inferred the meaning to be he has expressed his feelings strongly in private.
 
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This is the biggest concern about going to Adidas is the color consistency. We’re not talking about red or blue or black, which are effectively the same no matter what, we’re talking about Tennessee orange which is a very specific shade. Nike has been able to do a very good job at getting it right because they use so few suppliers across their products, particularly when it comes to uniforms. Adidas uses dozens. A different manufacturer supplies their T-shirts, another jackets, another performance apparel, so on and so forth. In uniforms, they use seven or eight across all sports, where Nike has two.

For uniforms that are designed a couple of years out, Adidas uses a manufacturer that does what Nike’s contractor does, fully dye large runs of the performance fabric and then use those to create the larger orders. Pretty standard for football and basketball, sometimes less standard for other sports.

Adidas uses manufacturers that sublimate colors on blank white uniforms. Most people couldn’t tell the difference, and actually Nike does this as well for Nike team uniforms that high schools order. The telltale sign is that the outside of the uniform is the correct color or something close, but the inside of the uniform is actually white. Both of the old alternate baseball jerseys that are pictured above use this technique. The issue that you have there is it can cause some colors to look faded, or if they don’t get the sublimation exactly correct, it ends up looking way off. Baseball had that happen a few times when they were with Adidas the first time, including the last orange baseball jersey that had an incorrectly narrow power T, and a completely wrong color orange. But they didn’t have enough of the previous uniforms to use, so we ended up wearing the wrong color orange one game a week for the whole season.

Regardless, if you use different manufacturers, custom colors can end up looking off. Think of it like this, my law firm does the town of presentations and when we do something at the last minute, we end up praying off the presentation from all five of our printers. Four of the five are the same brand, maintained by the same company, use the same inks, etc. But put side-by-side, those five presentations from five different printers have five completely different color combinations because of the slight differences in how they read the files and then print them. That’s the biggest concern, and I don’t think it’s one that’s easily fixed. But, $8 million a year.
Excellent deep dive! Thank you for taking the time to post that!

Dyeing fabric is way more complicated that anyone would imagine. My dad spent about 8 years in a DuPont laboratory working on nothing but trying to get a newly developed yarn to accept dyes consistently. You're truly talking about minute differences at the molecular level that can be easily discerned from 50 feet away!

Another issue, which surely UTAD will monitor closely, is the potential harm players can accrue from repeated contact with some dyes (complex chemicals). The various manufacturers are going to either meet or be in breach of their contract based on end results. It takes some integrity to risk that for the sake of safety.
 
Excellent deep dive! Thank you for taking the time to post that!

Dyeing fabric is way more complicated that anyone would imagine. My dad spent about 8 years in a DuPont laboratory working on nothing but trying to get a newly developed yarn to accept dyes consistently. You're truly talking about minute differences at the molecular level that can be easily discerned from 50 feet away!

Another issue, which surely UTAD will monitor closely, is the potential harm players can accrue from repeated contact with some dyes (complex chemicals).The various manufacturers are going to either meet or be in breach of their contract based on end results. It takes some integrity to risk that for the sake of safety.

Not saying you're wrong, but do you really think the chemical compound of dyes in the uniforms is something the UTAD spends time concerning themselves over? I find that difficult to believe. Furthermore, how exactly do you "monitor" such a thing? Isn't that Nike's or Adidas' job?
 
Not saying you're wrong, but do you really think the chemical compound of dyes in the uniforms is something the UTAD spends time concerning themselves over? I find that difficult to believe. Furthermore, how exactly do you "monitor" such a thing? Isn't that Nike's or Adidas' job?
Yeah, they don’t get into that at all. They contract with Nike to worry about all of that stuff.
 
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The chips will fall where they fall but I maintain that despite the 8 million dollars, switching to Adidas would be a mistake. Maybe not one we see in year 1 or year 2, but long-term I think it will hurt the program. Apparel matters to these kids and Nike is the overwhelming preference. I absolutely believe that we could lose important recruiting battles over this, if all else is equal. Why introduce an unnecessary variable into the equation you might have to fight to overcome? There, I've said my peace about this. Im out!
 

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