Crazy we had UGA's current offensive coaching staff working for us under Dooley. Now they are world beaters at UGA.Did you mean to say Pruitt? If so... yeah... a lot of these comments sound like the ones we heard 5 years ago. The difference to me is that for all his flaws Dooley didn't try to reinvent offense in the SEC. Jones saw himself as an innovator. Dooley may have been too "CEO" in his approach but Chaney and Pittman were better at developing OL's than Jones and any combination of offensive assistants he had.
Part of the problem was that Jones thought you could use undersized "quick" OL's in his perfect offensive scheme. He was going to reinvent offense in the SEC you know...
What he apparently didn't get is that the 320 lb OL's in the SEC are quicker and more athletic than the 290 lb guys he had at Cincy and wanted to recreate at UT.
Smith at 320 is SEC in every respect. Niehaus probably weighs in the 290's. He's marginally big enough to play OT but is needed at OG. Jahmir Johnson is also undersized out of JUCO. Ryan Johnson gained up to 300 since Pruitt arrived but needs to be closer to 310. Locklear is in the 290-300 range iirc. Carvin is a Fr but has the right measurables. Hall needs to be healthy. Tatum is also undersized to play in the middle where he's needed and marginal to play OT.
Richmond has the right measurables but doesn't have great feet or power.
Part of what we're seeing is lack of S&C prior to this past January.
Part is the "techniques" Jones demanded his OL coach teach. One of the first whispered criticisms came from the OL's he inherited and alum OL's who watched practice. They were confused by the techniques he was trying to get the OL's to do. Many here of course blamed the players and Dooley. Time proved that Jones flatout didn't know what he was doing with regard to OL techniques.
Part is just mistakes by guys being asked to work together to execute a new scheme with limited time together as a unit.
UT could use more quality depth. Some of those guys aren't as talented as expected. There are a lot of moving parts for the coaches to work on at the same time.
Awesome insights sj you increased my understanding of the magnitude of the OL issues. ThanksPart of the problem was that Jones thought you could use undersized "quick" OL's in his perfect offensive scheme. He was going to reinvent offense in the SEC you know...
What he apparently didn't get is that the 320 lb OL's in the SEC are quicker and more athletic than the 290 lb guys he had at Cincy and wanted to recreate at UT.
Smith at 320 is SEC in every respect. Niehaus probably weighs in the 290's. He's marginally big enough to play OT but is needed at OG. Jahmir Johnson is also undersized out of JUCO. Ryan Johnson gained up to 300 since Pruitt arrived but needs to be closer to 310. Locklear is in the 290-300 range iirc. Carvin is a Fr but has the right measurables. Hall needs to be healthy. Tatum is also undersized to play in the middle where he's needed and marginal to play OT.
Richmond has the right measurables but doesn't have great feet or power.
Part of what we're seeing is lack of S&C prior to this past January.
Part is the "techniques" Jones demanded his OL coach teach. One of the first whispered criticisms came from the OL's he inherited and alum OL's who watched practice. They were confused by the techniques he was trying to get the OL's to do. Many here of course blamed the players and Dooley. Time proved that Jones flatout didn't know what he was doing with regard to OL techniques.
Part is just mistakes by guys being asked to work together to execute a new scheme with limited time together as a unit.
UT could use more quality depth. Some of those guys aren't as talented as expected. There are a lot of moving parts for the coaches to work on at the same time.
Not if you actually read my responses rather than seeing a criticism of JG and going blind to everything else I write. I've NEVER said the OL wasn't a problem. JG has struggled with his checks and calls. He's struggled reading D's. It was a warm up game but I honestly think he took a step forward Saturday. There was one particular play in the 2nd half where he made a line call and appeared to change the side the play went to. I hole opened up on the right side right where he had changed the play to.i remember just last week you placed some of the blame on JG saying he has to check and get them into the right assignments/ plays and such. now this? you are literally all over the place with your responses.
I liked this comment because you're correct but we shouldn't even know we have OL problems with who we've played so far this year. To watch ETSU and UTEP run through our OL is alarming.We have had the worst OL in the SEC for multiple years in a row. How is that supposed to magically change in one year?
LOL, here we go....Nasty Jack....watch his film b4 he got hurt. He was horrible and only played because he threatened to quit and his daddy pumped a lot of cash to CBJ. And this is FACTI agree with those, Richmond does not at all. Really miss Jack Jones that boy had it for sure. Of course unfortunately his time was cut short really hate it for him, we could really use his kind of grit and determination.
Part of the problem was that Jones thought you could use undersized "quick" OL's in his perfect offensive scheme. He was going to reinvent offense in the SEC you know...
What he apparently didn't get is that the 320 lb OL's in the SEC are quicker and more athletic than the 290 lb guys he had at Cincy and wanted to recreate at UT.
Smith at 320 is SEC in every respect. Niehaus probably weighs in the 290's. He's marginally big enough to play OT but is needed at OG. Jahmir Johnson is also undersized out of JUCO. Ryan Johnson gained up to 300 since Pruitt arrived but needs to be closer to 310. Locklear is in the 290-300 range iirc. Carvin is a Fr but has the right measurables. Hall needs to be healthy. Tatum is also undersized to play in the middle where he's needed and marginal to play OT.
Richmond has the right measurables but doesn't have great feet or power.
Part of what we're seeing is lack of S&C prior to this past January.
Part is the "techniques" Jones demanded his OL coach teach. One of the first whispered criticisms came from the OL's he inherited and alum OL's who watched practice. They were confused by the techniques he was trying to get the OL's to do. Many here of course blamed the players and Dooley. Time proved that Jones flatout didn't know what he was doing with regard to OL techniques.
Part is just mistakes by guys being asked to work together to execute a new scheme with limited time together as a unit.
UT could use more quality depth. Some of those guys aren't as talented as expected. There are a lot of moving parts for the coaches to work on at the same time.