Signature Win - Over UGA?

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#26
I think a win over Florida would have been or Alabama coming would be a signature win. Georgia is a good win. If they hadn't got clocked by Alabama maybe better. The loss to Arkansas still really stings. If we lose to Alabama, Missouri and South Carolina then all for naught. We'll see.
 
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Biopsyman said:
Beating GA is huge.. They are 1 of the. Big three each year.. Good for recruiting -OUT
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This. My goal for the season, stated all over VN before the year, was 8-4 with at least one win coming against our big three rivals (UF, UGA, Bama). We haven't beaten one of those three since 2009! This was BIG!
 
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Silly me, I thought I would log on to VolNation this morning and people might be happy :no:

Coming back from 21 down, against a ranked SEC East team, who we have lost to for half a decade...yeah, its a signature win. And a much needed win!

Just enjoy it for the next few days...
 
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It's a great win for so many reasons, on both strategic and tactical levels.

Great for strategy because it was uga and they were ranked. You do realize we have had three straight one-score heartbreaking losses to them, right? Including the play with Pig two years ago. Great for strategy because uga, favored to win the East this year, is a big step up from USC jr in tradition and brand recognition. And as others have pointed out, huge for recruiting.

Great tactically for this season because it erases some of the negative vibe from Florida and OU. Great tactically because our passing game looked much improved. Great tactically because it, at least for a while, lifts the black cloud that has been over us since 2008.

A better question is not whether this win is big, but "how big". You could make a case that it's the biggest win since the gator victory of 2001.

It is true that there are bigger wins possible. Uga is/was overated, particularly with Chubb out. The next step up is to beat a top 10 or even top 5 team, and one is coming up in a couple weeks.

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But in terms of Butch Jones making incremental progress, no doubt this was a huge win. Gigantic.
 
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DownNDirty said:
I just have a problem with people saying that this is a top 10 win in program history
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Haven't seen anyone say that and I'd disagree as well. But, it was certainly Butch's top ten win and that falls under the umbrella of signature win, imo.
 
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I see what you are saying and several years a ago I would agree but....

I'm not sure you realize just how bad we are and have been for a long time. Beating any ranked team at this point is a huge accomplishment for us and something we shouldn't take for granted. It probably won't happen again this season.

No it's not a statement win for the image of Tennessee we have in our minds, but it is a statement win for the image the rest of college football has for us.
 
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GAVol said:
At no point in the last 20 years has a win over Alabama, Florida or Georgia not been a big deal. And beating Georgia is probably the single biggest win for recruiting that there is.
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Considering there are 22 players on our roster from the peach state, yup.
 
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I understand the frustration with our three losses, but good grief some of you guys will reach for anything to bash Butch and Co. They deserve criticism when warranted, but if you can't admit they called a very good game yesterday then you never will. Any win over an SEC team besides Vandy, UK, and the OBC is a big deal at this point. Enjoy it and be happy for our boys. They played with great heart.
 
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I'm happy about beating UGA. I don't ever want them to lose. If Butch proves me wrong and wins out I would be elated. Alabama is beatable this year. If they beat Alabama then that most certainly is a signature win on any card. Even if they get beat up by A&M next week.

I want them to win just as much as any of you. But this is a discussion forum and I threw out those stats as a discussion piece. Did I figure it would be a popular topic? Absolutely not. But I did think it was interesting enough to discuss. It isn't another mindless "fire him, praise him" topic that floods the boards. It was something that I thought had a bit of substance.
 
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So Our team beats South Carolina, we call them overrated (2013). We beat Georgia we call them overrated. Dude, we had lost five games in a row to them. So, yeah this was a great win, just like South Carolina was.
We can't downgrade our wins as a fan base, and over analyse losses. We have to be consistent! Being optimistic is difficult, but we can Try after a win.
 
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I hate to break it to people, as well, but Georgia is terrible, especially with losing their best player to a pretty horrific injury on the first play. Regardless, any win over Georgia is a good thing, no matter what, so I will enjoy finally having a win to celebrate over one of the big dogs on our schedule.

Let's also state that Butch didn't suddenly make "progress" as a coach. He is what he is and was eventually going to get a win here and there against a team of note. That situation will work itself out, though, and I'm just going to be happy that we, for once, aren't adding to a lengthy losing streak again one of the rivals.
 
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Cracks me up some of the things ppl come up with....Georgia was number 6 in the nation with that same qb 2 weeks ago and some ppl had them winning the sec and maybe bein in the final 4 playoff...Great win for Volnation...GBO
 
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DownNDirty said:
UGA’s wins:

Louisiana Monroe (1-4) - lone win over Nicholls State (0-5)

Vandy (2-3) - wins over Austin Peay (0-6) and MTSU (2-4)

South Carolina (2-4) - wins over North Carolina (4-1) - UNC’s wins are over North Carolina A&T, Illinois, Delaware, and Georgia Tech and Central Florida (0-6)

Southern University (3-2) - wins over Mississippi Valley State (0-6), Jackson State (1-4), and Alabama State (2-4)

So to digest. The opponents Georgia beat has a combined record of 8-13. The opponents of the opponents that UGA has beaten has a combined record of 9-36

Please continue to tell me how this was Butch’s signature win. He beat a team that lost their top player the first play of the game and has a QB who couldn’t cut it at Virginia. And a team that won’t be in the top 25 come poll time.


Look, this takes nothing away from the players effort in the game. Dobbs is a warrior. But to tell me that Butch "got it done" is a stretch. UGA was overrated it seems. Stats don't lie. But I'm sure just by me posting this some people will automatically think I'm a NegaVol.

There's a big difference IMO between being a fan of the team and players and worshipping the coaches. I don't ever think Butch gets more than 9 regular season wins at UT and IMO that's just not good enough. I'm glad they beat UGA and with Bama's issues on offense they very well could give Bama a game this year. Missouri sucks and South Carolina has checked out. It's probably a good year for TN to turn the corner and look pretty decent when all is said and done.

I just have a problem with people saying that this is a top 10 win in program history. It was one of the best come from behind wins I can remember but we beat a team that isn't all that great it seems. Anytime we beat UGA is a good day. Realistically we should be 5-1 now - Arkansas handled us fair and square. But we should have wins over Florida and Oklahoma - who also showed they may just be mediocre at best this year once again. TCU and Baylor will destroy them.

Flame away - I've got pretty thick skin.
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Look at me! Look at me! I need attention!
 
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Yes, it's a big signature WIN for our Tennessee footVol team!!!

The 5 year streak of Losing to UGa is now officially DEAD and buried.

It's a huge WIN to help with our recruiting and we had several 4* and 5* kids at Neyland yesterday.

Our fans were loud, fired up and passionate like they always are.

If those young high school kids didn't see some very special reasons to sign with Tennessee yesterday then they never will.

I'm very proud of our footVol team and everyone else should be too.

It's time to celebrate and be happy from now until game day against alaBubba because a WIN should always be enjoyed until the next game.

#VFL...GBO!!!
 
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DownNDirty said:
UGA’s wins:

Louisiana Monroe (1-4) - lone win over Nicholls State (0-5)

Vandy (2-3) - wins over Austin Peay (0-6) and MTSU (2-4)

South Carolina (2-4) - wins over North Carolina (4-1) - UNC’s wins are over North Carolina A&T, Illinois, Delaware, and Georgia Tech and Central Florida (0-6)

Southern University (3-2) - wins over Mississippi Valley State (0-6), Jackson State (1-4), and Alabama State (2-4)

So to digest. The opponents Georgia beat has a combined record of 8-13. The opponents of the opponents that UGA has beaten has a combined record of 9-36

Please continue to tell me how this was Butch’s signature win. He beat a team that lost their top player the first play of the game and has a QB who couldn’t cut it at Virginia. And a team that won’t be in the top 25 come poll time.


Look, this takes nothing away from the players effort in the game. Dobbs is a warrior. But to tell me that Butch "got it done" is a stretch. UGA was overrated it seems. Stats don't lie. But I'm sure just by me posting this some people will automatically think I'm a NegaVol.

There's a big difference IMO between being a fan of the team and players and worshipping the coaches. I don't ever think Butch gets more than 9 regular season wins at UT and IMO that's just not good enough. I'm glad they beat UGA and with Bama's issues on offense they very well could give Bama a game this year. Missouri sucks and South Carolina has checked out. It's probably a good year for TN to turn the corner and look pretty decent when all is said and done.

I just have a problem with people saying that this is a top 10 win in program history. It was one of the best come from behind wins I can remember but we beat a team that isn't all that great it seems. Anytime we beat UGA is a good day. Realistically we should be 5-1 now - Arkansas handled us fair and square. But we should have wins over Florida and Oklahoma - who also showed they may just be mediocre at best this year once again. TCU and Baylor will destroy them.

Flame away - I've got pretty thick skin.
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GTFO....enjoy the win
 
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#43
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Unimane said:
I hate to break it to people, as well, but Georgia is terrible, especially with losing their best player to a pretty horrific injury on the first play. Regardless, any win over Georgia is a good thing, no matter what, so I will enjoy finally having a win to celebrate over one of the big dogs on our schedule.

Let's also state that Butch didn't suddenly make "progress" as a coach. He is what he is and was eventually going to get a win here and there against a team of note. That situation will work itself out, though, and I'm just going to be happy that we, for once, aren't adding to a lengthy losing streak again one of the rivals.
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Blaming injuries are lame seeing as though we don't get to play the same game. And you're not really breaking anything to anyone. You are simply unable to understand why this was a signature win. And time will tell if UGA is as terrible as you are suggesting. History would dictate they are a 9-10 win team. Guess we will be able to see and not speculate at the end of the year.

1) We beat a rival that we go head to head in recruiting against every year
2) We beat a ranked opponent who has had a lot of success since our 7 year slump began.
3) UT was able to break a losing streak and close a game getting a huge monkey off their back against a high profile opponent.
4) It was a nationally televised game which meant blue chip recruits across the country were watching and got to see the full experience of our atmosphere
5) We had our best visitor list at the game watching it all unfold and getting to see the night life in this town after the game.
 
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DownNDirty said:
Butch will take care of that for me. I don't need to push the fire Butch agenda. Just because I don't believe in the coach makes me a non-fan huh?
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After the thrill of yesterday, it most certainly does. Oh, and a sad person who either is or needs to be medicated.
 
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The great crowd, largest comeback victory ever vs. Mark Richt (hobnail in reverse) young players playing well - many exceptionally well - not to mention impact on recruiting - I say it is a monumental win for the program. Break a 5 year streak, etc. and building confidence the team can win in the SEC - is huge. Is Georgia a great team without Chubb? Certainly not but this was not the Vols best game either - it was a terrific SEC game (as was the Florida game) and Butch and his troops won.

Will it expose Georgia and they fall from prosperity in the SEC East as South Carolina has done - I hope so.

Signature win is sort of a trite phrase anyway - if we measure monumental wins that help turn a program around and salvage a season - this win was one of those.
 
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DownNDirty said:
Butch will take care of that for me. I don't need to push the fire Butch agenda. Just because I don't believe in the coach makes me a non-fan huh?
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No, but considering you are doing so the morning after a win over UGA, it does point to you being a bit of a cancerous lesion.:dunno:
 
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DownNDirty said:
Butch will take care of that for me. I don't need to push the fire Butch agenda. Just because I don't believe in the coach makes me a non-fan huh?
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Actually, it does mean you are not a fan. You have no say in the hiring of a coach or the recruiting of a player. A Fan is not just a fan of any particular sport or coach, but someone who roots and supports his school, where is any byelaws that liking the coach or players do you have a clause to point out all the negatives of this staff or team? Even if you are a booster, which I will go out on a limb and say, you are not its not a gray area........either you are a fan or not a fan. You can be an unhappy fan or a disappointed fan. However, to post all these stats proves or does not give you the right to bash or be a negateer/negavol or whatever.

What I don't understand, you have the freedom to walk away and either quit watching UT Sports, or pick another team..your choice, but no one is forcing you to be a UT Fan.......so, be a good little black cloud and go hang over another school.
 
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Unimane said:
I hate to break it to people, as well, but Georgia is terrible, especially with losing their best player to a pretty horrific injury on the first play. Regardless, any win over Georgia is a good thing, no matter what, so I will enjoy finally having a win to celebrate over one of the big dogs on our schedule.

Let's also state that Butch didn't suddenly make "progress" as a coach. He is what he is and was eventually going to get a win here and there against a team of note. That situation will work itself out, though, and I'm just going to be happy that we, for once, aren't adding to a lengthy losing streak again one of the rivals.
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Lol... Georgia is not terrible. The fact is that Alabama is the best team in the SEC and then you can throw a blanket over just about the next 7 or 8 teams.

And the injury thing is just a fact of life. I can think of about 3 key injuries that would change our team if we had them back.
 
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yes. this is a signature win. if you don't know that, then you haven't been paying attention the last 7 years. Hell, you haven't been paying attention the last month.
 
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