Signature Win - Over UGA?

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#176
Vol_is_Lyfe18 said:
There is no winning this argument.

If Butch lost, it'd be, "He couldn't even beat a Chubb-less Georgia team." Since we won, "Well, they didn't have Chubb."

To further prove my point, some posters used to say "Talk to me when he beats UGA, UF, or Alabama." Now it's, "Talk to me when he beats UF or Alabama."
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Talk to be when Butch wins back to back to back NCs.
 
#179
#179
Ugh has a wealth of talent on both offense and defense and based on last year's team should have been the # 1 team in the SEC East. Alabama and Tennessee exposed them on both sides of the ball. At the time, this was Jones best win and set the table for the rest of the season. We damned near beat Bama have have improved our game on both sides of the ball. I believe the corner has been turned and we will win-out baring injuries to key players. So, yes, I think the UGa win was a signature win.
 
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#180
DownNDirty said:
UGA’s wins:

Louisiana Monroe (1-4) - lone win over Nicholls State (0-5)

Vandy (2-3) - wins over Austin Peay (0-6) and MTSU (2-4)

South Carolina (2-4) - wins over North Carolina (4-1) - UNC’s wins are over North Carolina A&T, Illinois, Delaware, and Georgia Tech and Central Florida (0-6)

Southern University (3-2) - wins over Mississippi Valley State (0-6), Jackson State (1-4), and Alabama State (2-4)

So to digest. The opponents Georgia beat has a combined record of 8-13. The opponents of the opponents that UGA has beaten has a combined record of 9-36

Please continue to tell me how this was Butch’s signature win. He beat a team that lost their top player the first play of the game and has a QB who couldn’t cut it at Virginia. And a team that won’t be in the top 25 come poll time.


Look, this takes nothing away from the players effort in the game. Dobbs is a warrior. But to tell me that Butch "got it done" is a stretch. UGA was overrated it seems. Stats don't lie. But I'm sure just by me posting this some people will automatically think I'm a NegaVol.

There's a big difference IMO between being a fan of the team and players and worshipping the coaches. I don't ever think Butch gets more than 9 regular season wins at UT and IMO that's just not good enough. I'm glad they beat UGA and with Bama's issues on offense they very well could give Bama a game this year. Missouri sucks and South Carolina has checked out. It's probably a good year for TN to turn the corner and look pretty decent when all is said and done.

I just have a problem with people saying that this is a top 10 win in program history. It was one of the best come from behind wins I can remember but we beat a team that isn't all that great it seems. Anytime we beat UGA is a good day. Realistically we should be 5-1 now - Arkansas handled us fair and square. But we should have wins over Florida and Oklahoma - who also showed they may just be mediocre at best this year once again. TCU and Baylor will destroy them.

Flame away - I've got pretty thick skin.
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Damn, DD. Could not agree more and well-stated. It was an inspired come-from-behind victory that we HAD to have, but, your analysis is spot on, my friend. Great post....
 
#181
#181
DownNDirty said:
Like I said there's a difference at least to me between coach worshipping and being a fan of a team. I had posted this elsewhere but here was my answer as to why I'm a fan of Tennessee.......


I’ve been a Tennessee fan my entire life. Doesn’t matter what sport I always wanted the Big Orange to win. My parents were UT fans especially my dad. So I grew up cheering for the Vols. I was born in 80 so I can fondly remember the 1985 season and the magic of beating Miami in the Sugar Bowl that year. Some of my most vivid memories revolve around Tennessee football. I used to love hearing John Ward on the radio with the TV turned down. My mom used to put up the Christmas tree right around Thanksgiving so I remember many times getting the Christmas decorations out of the barn and putting up the tree while the Vols were playing Vandy.

I had to get a job when I was 14 because my dad became disabled and I had to help my mom pay the house payment and the electric bill. So, from 94 to 99, I was working in retail at a local K-Mart. Thankfully working in Electronics I could see some of the Tennessee games. The one’s that were broadcast on CBS at least. So, when Memphis State beat the Vols by some miracle I was so irritated that I broke a wooden table with my right fist and for my effort put the bone of my right hand through the skin. Still have the scar as a reminder of how stupid that was. I was at work when UT played Arkansas in 1998. I remember after Arkansas got the ball back I was nearly in tears. I knew that a loss and we were out of the National Championship picture once again. I remember exactly where I was standing watching the video wall when Arkansas fumbled it back away to us and will never forget that feeling.

Now I’m an adult with even more responsibilities and 3 beautiful little girls. The oldest one is now 6 so she at least understands what UT means to me and it’s starting to mean more to her. For the two year old twins to say Tudown Tennessee makes me feel good that I’m passing on my love for the Vols to my kids. And I still make time at least a couple of times per year to go watch Tennessee play with my parents. To me, Tennessee football is more than just a game. It's time for family to be together and have a good time watching football.

I've only been to a handful of UT games in my life. The first chance I will never forget walking through the tunnel and seeing the field for the first time. Even as a 20 year old it was breathtaking to me. I had the chance to go to the Alabama game in 2006. I had a serious staph infection from getting cut about a month beforehand. It had spread through me and I was in and out of the hospital several times trying to fight off spreading infection. I basically walked out of the hospital late on a Friday night against the doctor's orders to go to the Alabama game because to me it meant more than my health. I didn't know how many times in my life I'd get a chance to go to the Third Saturday in October. I'll never forget that day. I went to the game with my mother and it was her first ever trip to Neyland. It was the last time we beat Bama and just to experience that game was awesome.

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So, at least IMO I'm a fan of Tennessee and most certainly Tennessee football. Just because I don't like their coach and haven't since day one doesn't change that fact. I was a fan way before he got here and will be a fan long after he's gone.

And as far as the "told you so" thing it's darned if you do, darned if you don't. If I would have posted this after a loss it would be gloating. If I post this like I did after a win it's making excuses. Just because I don't agree with who the coach is in Knoxville at least to me does not make me a non-fan. To those who like him that's fine. Everyone should be entitled to their own opinions.
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Thank you, DD, for your devotion to my beloved Alma Mater. May you and yours live long and prosper....
 
#184
#184
GAVol said:
I don't know about biggest, but it was certainly one of the most timely.
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I agree! Coming on the heels of OU, UF, & Ark this was a much needed win. Lose the UGA game and you're staring 2-5 in the face.
 
#185
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thebjd said:
Butch said it was one of the biggest wins in program history
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Apparently he must think little of our history, but I understand he says dumb things like this in attempt to supersize his results. This was a solid win, a step in the right direction, now lets build on it.
 
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UT_King said:
Apparently he must think little of our history, but I understand he says dumb things like this in attempt to supersize his results. This was a solid win, a step in the right direction, now lets build on it.
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It was simple mis-speak.

Jones meant to say that it was one of the biggest wins in HIS history, not UT history.
 
#187
#187
thebjd said:
Butch said it was one of the biggest wins in program history
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Jones is prone to hyperbole. Everyone knows this by now. Just brush it off and move on.

It was a good win. Timely for the season and ended a streak vs a quality division rival. Plus it's big for recruiting no matter how down hill they've gone since. Nothing more really need to be said.
 
#188
#188
I do not know who came up with the term "signature win" but it is a stupid concept. A win is a win is a win. We need to concentrate on the quantity of wins (need a bunch of those) and worry less about how others perceive them on their merit..
 
#189
#189
agVOL90 said:
I do not know who came up with the term "signature win" but it is a stupid concept. A win is a win is a win. We need to concentrate on the quantity of wins (need a bunch of those) and worry less about how others perceive them on their merit..
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Actually, while I agree with you that the quantity of wins is most important, the "quality" of a win (a signature win being a high quality win) is an important factor with respect to the CFP Committee's ranking, and correspondingly, with the higher rankings comes the opportunity to play for the Nat'l Championship...so while a win is good, some wins are in fact viewed as better than others.
 
#190
#190
Given the fact that Georgia has now lost three of its last four games, one can certainly quibble retrospectively about the magnitude of our victory over the Dawgs. There can, however, be no doubt about one incontrovertible fact. That victory is tied with the 2005 LSU win as the third biggest come-from-behind victory in Tennessee football history. Furthermore, we absolutely dominated Georgia to the tune of 35-7 in climbing back from a 24-3 deficit. That win snapped a losing streak to one of our most intense recruiting rivals and served as a springboard for an outstanding performance vs. Alabama. I don't believe that criticism is warranted for Butch having placed great emphasis on beating Georgia in the heat of the moment.
 
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