Shooting in El Paso

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Septic said:
You're right. Understanding that unpredictability of human nature is at the root of the issue, the next area to 'target' is the other constant in the equation of 'crazy people with guns' shooting people.

Any modicum of success will need to address both facets, saying guns isn't the issue is ignoring the fact that the vegas killer wasn't launching pillows from a trebuchet of the 14th floor. Gun control advocates are going to need to come to the realization that restricting gun rights through legislation is only going to infringe on the law abiding. So long as both sides remain inflexible, the problem will continue.
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I agree with this . For some reason congress can’t agree on water being wet . They are all useless to the people right now . It’s all pandering and propaganda so we are guaranteed not to be able to solve anything .
 
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hog88 said:
There were plenty of senseless killing centuries ago in places where adherence to the gospels was mandatory.
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Yep, and those people did not follow God's Word. Plenty of examples in the Bible for us to read about and learn to avoid those exact situations. The problem is people want to blame everything but the lack to put God first. That is it in a nutshell.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
Again, you guys like to argue since other horrible things have happened we should just ignore a problem.
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Typical liberal response,. Do something even if it doesn't accomplish anything. At least we can say we did something. At the same time you trample on others rights simply because you don't care about those particular rights. If you want to do something that gives you the feels do something that accomplishes something. You can't seem to grasp the idea that some people are just evil. Taking rights away from law abiding citizens does nothing. Be careful, they may take a right you care about sometime.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Typical liberal response,. Do something even if it doesn't accomplish anything. At least we can say we did something. At the same time you trample on others rights simply because you don't care about those particular rights. If you want to do something that gives you the feels do something that accomplishes something. You can't seem to grasp the idea that some people are just evil. Taking rights away from law abiding citizens does nothing. Be careful, they may take a right you care about sometime.
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Whose rights are being taken away?
 
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Bjorn_Yesterday said:
You're not making any sense.
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Yeah, my bad, I assumed I was dealing with a grown up to whom it would actually matter that their accusation was factually deficient, but who was obviously too stubborn to admit when they’re wrong. I was half wrong this was to my detriment, because I misunderstood what you were saying was being taken out of context.

My apologies, I guess.

Carry on, I think you’ve almost convinced one of them.
 
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hog88 said:
In simpleton logic you are correct.
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I wasn't asking you a question, I knew i was correct. You're the one who tried to foist the idea that your definition of evil was different from crazy - which is irrelevant to the conversation.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
There have been zero shootings at my daughter's school, so they must work.
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I hope they continue to always work at her school . I’m with the other crowd on schools , they should be like Fort Knox . If we can keep federal judges safe in their court rooms then we should be able to do the same with our schools .
 
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0nelilreb said:
I hope they continue to always work at her school . I’m with the other crowd on schools , they should be like Fort Knox . If we can keep federal judges safe in their court rooms then we should be able to do the same with our schools .
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I agree with you about trying to make it more difficult to attack a school, but I have seen many on this board saying teachers should be armed. You know who is armed in courthouses, officers. The judicial assistants aren't allowed to carry.
 
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Septic said:
I wasn't asking you a question, I knew i was correct. You're the one who tried to foist the idea that your definition of evil was different from crazy - which is irrelevant to the conversation.
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A person can be perfectly lucid and sane while also being completely evil. There is a plethora of examples out there.
 
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0nelilreb said:
I hope they continue to always work at her school . I’m with the other crowd on schools , they should be like Fort Knox . If we can keep federal judges safe in their court rooms then we should be able to do the same with our schools .
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So you want an armed cop in every classroom and 4 plus in the entry with metal detectors? Now how do we prevent a WalMart?
 
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Mick said:
In this case the why is evident but don't let that stop you.
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So you're saying the black guy in Alabama, and the half Iranian in California who was a Democrat are both white nationalist? Cause that's what you're implying for the reason.
 
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volfanhill said:
So you want an armed cop in every classroom and 4 plus in the entry with metal detectors?
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No I don’t think it would take a cop in every class room . The only reason we don’t secure our schools is $ . What better thing can you think of to spend our money on than schools and hospitals where our young , old and weak are most at risk ? This is just my opinion but if you want to spend my tax dollars on something and never hear a peep from me , this would be it .
 
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