Secret Negas

#102
#102
ReaderVol said:
You are a dense person. How many starters did we lose for a MAJORITY of the season this year? Had the same thing happened in previous years the seasons would've been worse.
If you can't understand that then so be it.
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What's your prediction for next year then? How great do you think we'll be? Are we going to Atlanta? Are we beating UF or AL? What about UGA?

How bad does Lyle need to screw the pooch for you to think we need to fire his worthless ass?
 
#103
#103
NashVol11 said:
I've said that stuff plenty of times. In another thread today I said repeating ad nauseam that Butch lost to Dooley is an unfair criticism, and I've commended Butch for going after the best coordinators possible. With you I think sometimes there's an air of superiority when you step into a thread and talk about how everyone is recycling arguments because they aren't as logical as you are, but I've said that before. I have no problem agreeing with you.

i don't remember calling people Nancy or sheep, so I can't speak for that, but I agree that conversations work much better without the constant "us vs. them" that happens on both sides.
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I'm sure that hurt.

Your sarcasm detector is busted. And I make a habit of adding an emoji most of the time as to hopefully not confuse, but go ahead and read whatever you want into it.
 
#104
#104
JackWhite said:
My stupid posivol buddies call me a negavol in person all the time. In turn I let them know I think they're pumping Lyle in a most disgusting way.
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Haha, I get that, but that's different. Im talking about with people you've never met, like someone from here.
 
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#107
Behr said:
I'm sure that hurt.

Your sarcasm detector is busted. And I make a habit of adding an emoji most of the time as to hopefully not confuse, but go ahead and read whatever you want into it.
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I don't really know what your opinions are other than that firing Butch is stupid (which I don't agree with, sorry) and that people here recycle arguments, which doesn't bother me. Otherwise I'm not sure where this is coming from
 
#108
#108
UTRavens said:
If we're going down that route, the worst fans of all are the ones who pull out this straw man argument every time. It's not the fact that they're "questioning the coach", it's the fact that literally every post of theirs is negative and they only seem particularly interested in posting after UT loses or other potentially negative developments. Legions of the Miserable and all. Us "secret negas" (phrasing...lol) can tell the difference between those people and regular questioning fans, and we're perfectly appropriate in calling out certain people when the negativity is disproportionate to the team's level of play.

It also doesn't make sense to call them "secret negas" since they're, you know, not being negative about the Vols.
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Secret mediocre?
 
#110
#110
Weezer said:
You confuse the coach with the team. You're being positive about Butch, but are you being positive about the Vols? Should Butch prove himself to be a substandard coach, a coach unable to elevate us to the next level, does he deserve our support? When do you decide our players, the true Volunteers, deserve better?

And the only reason you see some posters continue to decry Butch's shortcomings is because some continue to sing his praises, as if he's one of the greatest of all time. Imagine, as annoyed as you get about what you term "nega-vols", some posters get by what they refer to as the "sunshine pumpers".
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What if, hypothetical of course, this was as good as Tennessee is going to get. Top 20 recruiting classes, top 25 finishes, 8,9wins a year and we get rid of CBJ and bring in what we think is a splash coach but the results are the same. What would the fan reaction be?
 
#111
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Coachmike17 said:
What if, hypothetical of course, this was as good as Tennessee is going to get. Top 20 recruiting classes, top 25 finishes, 8,9wins a year and we get rid of CBJ and bring in what we think is a splash coach but the results are the same. What would the fan reaction be?
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You keep doing it until you find the right coach.
 
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#113
#113
knox73 said:
How likely were the Cubs to win for the first time in a century.
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So you are willing to wait until 2098 to win the next championship. Good for you. I prefer to still be alive when the Vols win at least another SEC championship.
 
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#114
Coachmike17 said:
What if, hypothetical of course, this was as good as Tennessee is going to get. Top 20 recruiting classes, top 25 finishes, 8,9wins a year and we get rid of CBJ and bring in what we think is a splash coach but the results are the same. What would the fan reaction be?
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What if we start winning East titles and playing in NYE bowls or better? Have to say that's what Chip was doing
 
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#115
#115
NashVol11 said:
I don't really know what your opinions are other than that firing Butch is stupid (which I don't agree with, sorry) and that people here recycle arguments, which doesn't bother me. Otherwise I'm not sure where this is coming from
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Just so we are clear, during the exchange between you and I after the SC loss, I said firing Jones now, which was then, with the changes going on in the administration at UTK which obviously includes the Athletic Director, would be stupid.

The rest is irrelevant, at this point.
 
#117
#117
Behr said:
Just so we are clear, during the exchange between you and I after the SC loss, I said firing Jones now, which was then, with the changes going on in the administration at UTK which obviously includes the Athletic Director, would be stupid.

The rest is irrelevant, at this point.
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Which is your opinion. Why does disagreeing with your opinion mean I'm not being objective? Seems like something that you should say is "fair"
 
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#118
#118
tvolsfan said:
You know why there has been progress? It's because we've had the same team for three years. You're deluding yourself into believing that our improvement in record is due to some incredible process or coaching feat, when in reality, the players just got older and the schedule got easier. Both of those things are about to change over the next couple years.
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That's the dumbest thing I've seen in a long time. You mean we've built a team? Duh...
What the hell do you think is SUPPOSED to happen?
Good Lord.
 
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#124
#124
NashVol11 said:
Which is your opinion. Why does disagreeing with your opinion mean I'm not being objective? Seems like something that you should say is "fair"
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Disagreeing with my opinion has nothing to do with you not being objective. The fact that I told you I understood what you were saying (your opinion)and I thought that was "fair" but I disagreed, does. Then You made a comment insinuating I was settling for mediocrity, guess you're far superior to me.

Like the other times, this is going nowhere and I don't see that changing. Kinda like Butch.
 
#125
#125
Behr said:
Disagreeing with my opinion has nothing to do with you not being objective. The fact that I told you I understood what you were saying (your opinion)and I thought that was "fair" but I disagreed, does. Then You made a comment insinuating I was settling for mediocrity, guess you're far superior to me.

Like the other times, this is going nowhere and I don't see that changing. Kinda like Butch.
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I don't remember the comment, but I'm sorry for suggesting that. I try not to act like I know what people I've never met are thinking, and I agree that it isn't in any way productive.

I honestly don't think I'm superior to anyone here, though I'm sure I sometimes act like it. I regret those times.
 
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