SEC still planning on playing season.

[BogeyVol]

Contracting? More, its a physical contact sport.

Spreading? Depends. Testing isn't 100% accurate (though it is beneficial). They also interact with more people on a daily basis by being on a team plus classes. So im going to say about the same on that front.

More because of football contact? Based on what? What randomized, peer reviewed study do we have for that?

So once again, in a more controlled setting as being part of an aggressively monitored football team, who is more likely to be infected and/or spread the virus? The athlete practicing and playing within that monitored and controlled sport? Or the college athlete not playing and practicing without strict monitoring as part of the general population? Because without football these athletes will definitely look for more outlets for entertainment... They go to enough parties as it was before. Take away football, what do you think will happen?

 

[kiddiedoc]

I have always said the death rate for young people is low. The danger is the spread (which eventually will get to older people) and the long term implications which we dont know but largely suspect could include lung damage, loss or reduced senses.

That's actually not supported by the medical literature.

In addition, there are practical ways to protect the at-risk while allowing the rest of us to be exposed and gather needed immunity while keeping our economy, educational system, and livelihoods from completely imploding.

 

[kiddiedoc]

So if I had kids yes.

Now I do understand that we don't have a good childcare system set up in the US and some parents can't afford to quit their jobs.

So I am a bit more flexible on where I stand.

My belief is that it should be optional and that way we have less on ground students so social distancing can be better implemented.

Until when? Would you allow them to attend during the yearly flu season?

 

[VolMarine1371]

Never said I knew more or was more smart. What that education did give me was the qualifications to speak on certain matters pertaining to Public Health.

I have always said the death rate for young people is low. The danger is the spread (which eventually will get to older people) and the long term implications which we dont know but largely suspect could include lung damage, loss or reduced senses.

And then you should know then if school is called off then these kids are more susceptible to getting sick. How many of these kids will go home and follow protocols and if they do get sick what kind of medical care will they get compared to what they will be getting if they are at the school?

 

[zaqhhh]

Until when? Would you allow them to attend during the yearly flu season?

Until either we reach a manageable level of infection or we have a vaccine. So most likely the entire 2020-21 school year.

It would be less if people could follow directions like in most other countries but unfortunately that doesn't seem like it is going to happen.

 

[zaqhhh]

And then you should know then if school is called off then these kids are more susceptible to getting sick. How many of these kids will go home and follow protocols and if they do get sick what kind of medical care will they get compared to what they will be getting if they are at the school?

Nah see I just plain disagree with that. As someone who was a college student, I definitely got more interaction in my classes/extracurriculars/sports (in HS) than times when I was left to my own time.

And I was also exposed to a much smaller, constant circle of people who could be easily monitored.

And that was in a non covid environment, given our environment that makes my point that much stronger.

 

[VolMarine1371]

Nah see I just plain disagree with that. As someone who was a college student, I definitely got more interaction in my classes/extracurriculars/sports (in HS) then times when I was left to my own time.

And I was also exposed to a much smaller, constant circle of people who could be easily monitored.

I assume things are a lot different now than we was both kids. Now days kids are taught that it’s ok to protest in mass but can’t go to church without getting Covid. Better yet let’s stop lying to ourselves and acting like this is about the Covid When we all know it’s not!!!!

 

[kiddiedoc]

Until either we reach a manageable level of infection or we have a vaccine. So most likely the entire 2020-21 school year.

It would be less if people could follow directions like in most other countries but unfortunately that doesn't seem like it is going to happen.

The latter paragraph is completely ridiculous. "Following directions" doesn't make a virus this widespread just disappear. In fact, it's very likely that it will propagate more rapidly once respiratory season hits.

Your first statement is partially accurate. According to many, there is no "manageable level of infection," so we are left with immunity. That's achieved by either herd immunity from natural infection and clearance by the younger/healthy population or the development and widespread-acceptance of a vaccine (which will likely require seasonal/yearly revaccination).

 

[VolMarine1371]

Nah see I just plain disagree with that. As someone who was a college student, I definitely got more interaction in my classes/extracurriculars/sports (in HS) than times when I was left to my own time.

And I was also exposed to a much smaller, constant circle of people who could be easily monitored.

And that was in a non covid environment, given our environment that makes my point that much stronger.

We all know of the Pac and Big players don’t make a list of demands then this is a different story. All of sudden black athletes want 2% of all revenue to help black athletes form low income houses to have money to go to school on. So the schools wasn’t prepared for this **** so they just thought it would be easier to just cancel till they have a plan than to deny there demands and receive the blow back from it!!!!

 

[zaqhhh]

The latter paragraph is completely ridiculous. "Following directions" doesn't make a virus this widespread just disappear. In fact, it's very likely that it will propagate more rapidly once respiratory season hits.

Your first statement is partially accurate. According to many, there is no "manageable level of infection," so we are left with immunity. That's achieved by either herd immunity from natural infection and clearance by the younger/healthy population or the development and widespread-acceptance of a vaccine (which will likely require seasonal/yearly revaccination).

Wth do you mean? Following advice of experts is a bad idea? It lessens it greatly if we all wear masks, socially distance etc. Look at New Zealand, they even eradicated it. And chances are they can likely stay that way with no to minimal infections until they get a vaccine.

And even among other nations many are doing well even if they have a few cases here or there. And its because they didn't try to fight every piece of advice by yelling freedom or ranting about government conspiracies.

 

[zaqhhh]

We all know of the Pac and Big players don’t make a list of demands then this is a different story. All of sudden black athletes want 2% of all revenue to help black athletes form low income houses to have money to go to school on. So the schools wasn’t prepared for this **** so they just thought it would be easier to just cancel till they have a plan than to deny there demands and receive the blow back from it!!!!

Yeah you are just insane.

 

[VolMarine1371]

Yeah you are just insane.

Facts!! Look at the list of demands made by pac players!!!!

 

[Helton1]

Oh golly anecdotal evidence!

ONE person.

Also, it doesnt dismiss the fact that our players are actually safer in the controlled monitoring and testing environment in the football facilities.

Playing the sport DOES NOT automatically mean that they are more susceptible to the damn virus. Otherwise they're young and gonna go party where they might be one in a million like that baseball player and have a heart ailment.

Welp, guess I wasn’t clear enough.

I AGREE WITH YOU. I WAS ARGUING WITH SOMEONE WHO SAID EVERY PERSON IN THE MLB HAD RECOVERED. Keep up...just because someone has one minor opinion different than yours, that doesn’t mean the major opinion isn’t the same. I am in agreement with your opinions about this, I was just correcting someone. Sheesh.

 

[Helton1]

Maybe you should do some research on myocarditis. I have and you know what I've found? myocarditis has been around a long time and is also a symptom of several viruses including the regular flu.

This from an article in 2012
Myocarditis Associated with Influenza A H1N1pdm2009

I’ve done hours of research on myocarditis actually, thanks. Appreciate you.

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

Welp, guess I wasn’t clear enough.

I AGREE WITH YOU. I WAS ARGUING WITH SOMEONE WHO SAID EVERY PERSON IN THE MLB HAD RECOVERED. Keep up...just because someone has one minor opinion different than yours, that doesn’t mean the major opinion isn’t the same. I am in agreement with your opinions about this, I was just correcting someone. Sheesh.

I'm sorry

 

[agman]

How much influence do governors have on football in the fall? In the Big Ten Conference, Michigan wanted to play, but Michigan Governor has been a strong proponent of lockdowns. Nebraska and Iowa voted to play and have Republican Governors.

The SEC schools all have Republican Governors except Kentucky and Louisiana. These states have been some of the first to reopen the economy and those governors appear to be more concerned about the economy. Just imagine the hit universities will take if they have to return ticket sales and donations.

 

[FBtime]

I’ve done hours of research on myocarditis actually, thanks. Appreciate you.

You're welcome...I'm here to elucidate.

 

[vol.E]

Wth do you mean? Following advice of experts is a bad idea? It lessens it greatly if we all wear masks, socially distance etc. Look at New Zealand, they even eradicated it. And chances are they can likely stay that way with no to minimal infections until they get a vaccine.

And even among other nations many are doing well even if they have a few cases here or there. And its because they didn't try to fight every piece of advice by yelling freedom or ranting about government conspiracies.

I think the point Doc is arguing is that the real statistics point to very low outcomes of serious consequences for “non vulnerable” people.

For every New Zealand argument there’s also the Swedish one - where they just went on with it. Their mortality rate plummeted without the restrictions to the general populace. Does that mean we shouldn’t protect our elderly and chronically ill - absolutely not. But not at the expense of potentially collapsing the western economy as we know it (which will have an even greater effect in the negative than the virus ever will).

Also - just for fun both of the above examples have a population and social diversity range which lie in the negative to minuscule relative to that of the US. I’m not saying fruit can’t be compared but apples are NOT oranges

 

[bloodtype_orange]

Let me be clear. I want college sports this year and believe players should have the ability to opt in if they’re given the ability to opt out. But also, you are wrong about all players being recovered.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/spor...season-because-heart-ailment-linked-covid-19/

Myocarditis is also a common complication with the flu/pneumonia. Try again...

 

[87&91ALUM]

Why would any true fan of Tennessee football want our team to play in front of an empty stadium or one limited to 50% of capacity?

Either do it all the way or not at all.

Nope. I’m enjoying the Braves and NASCAR and will enjoy watching the VOLS. Side benefits are funding, revenue, helping working support staff, and probably most important, giving us something to cheer about this fall.

 

[tn4elvis]

Nope. I’m enjoying the Braves and NASCAR and will enjoy watching the VOLS. Side benefits are funding, revenue, helping working support staff, and probably most important, giving us something to cheer about this fall.

I agree in that I feel like we as a society need something to cheer for.

 

[bloodtype_orange]

To start off I studied Public Health for 6 years and have my Masters in it. But let's forget about that because this is common sense.

We have 163k deaths and many active cases in this country.

Now common sense dictates, more contact=more cases. More cases=more deaths.

Even if you consider that these are younger adults, they have parents and grandparents who raise them and they constantly interact with. Not to mention fans.

Testing while it definitely helps isnt 100% accurate, therefore even if they test negative...They could still very well be spreading it.

Common sense is the statements that many players and coaches have already made. The majority of these kids will be better cared for while going through their practices and gamedays. If they arent playing then they have no incentive to not follow health guidlines. They are 18-22 year old kids that are going to party their balls off and go on about normal life if football is taken away.

 

[FBtime]

 

[VolMarine1371]

I’ve done hours of research on myocarditis actually, thanks. Appreciate you.

myocarditis can be caused by any viral infection like Strep throat, H1N1, common cold and the FLU. So let’s not act like Covid is the only thing that can cause heart issues when in fact there is many other things out there that can also!!!

 

[peerless98]

On someone? Nope.

When I played football, I was definitely in much closer proximity.

Not changing my mind on that one, sorry.

It's not an attempt to change your mind, sorry. The point I was countering was the one you attempted to make about contact. The virus is airborne and is transmitted regardless of location. These athletes are no more safe than classrooms all around the country opening with dozens of kids in close proximity to each other.