SARKISIAN FIRED

@hUTch2002

I give Sark a pass year 1 in NFL adjusting to the NFL game and being away from playcalling for a couple years.

But I get a falcon fan’s frustrations after having shanny calling plays, anything is a drop off from him.
 
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You are doing the exact thing that you are arguing against. There is no real documented proof that Shoop was handcuffed during his time here.
Wrong, sir. If you want to call Shoop the undocumented proof, then do so. Did you read his article? If not, I do willingly proclaim you Mr. Polymath.
 
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@hUTch2002

I give Sark a pass year 1 in NFL adjusting to the NFL game and being away from playcalling for a couple years.

But I get a falcon fan’s frustrations after having shanny calling plays, anything is a drop off from him.
And that may be what it was as I do believe Sark was better this year than last year. It was so frustrating that first year because he would never call throws to the RBs, which is part of what they did so well the prior year, and they didn’t use the TE well at all. The Falcons should have beaten Philly last year. Not all of that is on Sark but his calls with goal to go at the end of the game were terrible. Then I watched the Philly game to open this season and it looked just like the playoff game last year including the same poor calls down close to goal at the end. And for whatever reason they barely used Ridley that first game despite him being a top pick. Once Ridley started being used the offense looked better. It’s a shame Freeman went down but as a long time Falcons fan I’m used to losing seasons. Like I said, I do think he would be a good hire for UT.
 
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I don't know of a single instance where a coordinator failed in the pros and then went to college and killed it. I'm happy to admit my mistake if anyone can cite such?
Mel Tucker. Stunk it up for my Bears...with the same players that Lovie killed with. Did pretty well for UGA.
 
This line of thinking is beyond me. I can't see how anyone who keeps up at all with the NFL, and thereby knows the precipitous decline the Falcons offense exhibited under his tutelage, would then think he's a desirable OC. This is not like head coaches who failed at the pro level but then excelled in college; the HC position requires a myriad of other skills apart from playcalling, and is profoundly different at the pro level than the college one. Being a coordinator, conversely, is, unless I'm missing something, largely the same at both levels: you're either good at getting results with the players you're given, or you're not.

I don't know of a single instance where a coordinator failed in the pros and then went to college and killed it. I'm happy to admit my mistake if anyone can cite such?

And, even the coaches such as Saban who bombed in the pros and then were great in college, had previously had marked success at the college level at some point. Sarkissian was ostensibly one of the playcallers for USC very briefly when they were good; he's never excelled anywhere else, and his last HC gig was a spectacular failure.

Freeze never did anything but light it up on the field, and yet people on here were saying we shouldn't hire him because of things that may or may not have taken place twenty years ago. Sarkissian was fired for being openly drunk at practice less than three years ago, and now he's a home-run hire?

He must have the same publicity team as Kiffin.

Pete Carroll?

Do you think Tennessee ever had a coach that was openly drunk at practice?

In the midst of the MeToo Movement, Freeze was unacceptable to many....Several thought more was to come and evidently the SEC felt that this was not the time....Time will heal wounds and he may be back in the SEC after his Repentance at Liberty.....

I hear what you are saying and can agree to a point....but can't dictate (control) who to hire or who not to hire....so riding the wave......

Who would you hire?
 
CANNOT HIRE SARK> Stats don't lie
Falcons were 12th in NFL in 3rd Down Conversions when Roof was closed. Last year 11th.
19th in NFL in completion Pct. when wind blowing more than 8 MPH. Last year 17th.
15th in NFL in Rushing Yds on 2nd Down from the left hash. Last year 14th.

All of these stats show a precep...pricep....really sharp drop in production.

No Way he would be successful here.
 
CANNOT HIRE SARK> Stats don't lie
Falcons were 12th in NFL in 3rd Down Conversions when Roof was closed. Last year 11th.
19th in NFL in completion Pct. when wind blowing more than 8 MPH. Last year 17th.
15th in NFL in Rushing Yds on 2nd Down from the left hash. Last year 14th.

All of these stats show a precep...pricep....really sharp drop in production.

No Way he would be successful here.
Matt Ryan had his second best year statistically. Julio Jones had the second most receptions, yards, and TDs of his career as well. It's fun throwing out fantasty football stats though without acknowledging Atlanta had injuries at RB that severely hampered them.
 
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This line of thinking is beyond me. I can't see how anyone who keeps up at all with the NFL, and thereby knows the precipitous decline the Falcons offense exhibited under his tutelage, would then think he's a desirable OC. This is not like head coaches who failed at the pro level but then excelled in college; the HC position requires a myriad of other skills apart from playcalling, and is profoundly different at the pro level than the college one. Being a coordinator, conversely, is, unless I'm missing something, largely the same at both levels: you're either good at getting results with the players you're given, or you're not.

I don't know of a single instance where a coordinator failed in the pros and then went to college and killed it. I'm happy to admit my mistake if anyone can cite such?

And, even the coaches such as Saban who bombed in the pros and then were great in college, had previously had marked success at the college level at some point. Sarkissian was ostensibly one of the playcallers for USC very briefly when they were good; he's never excelled anywhere else, and his last HC gig was a spectacular failure.

Freeze never did anything but light it up on the field, and yet people on here were saying we shouldn't hire him because of things that may or may not have taken place twenty years ago. Sarkissian was fired for being openly drunk at practice less than three years ago, and now he's a home-run hire?

He must have the same publicity team as Kiffin.


Kiffin failed in the nfl
 
Shoop was very honest and forthcoming in his assessment of his relationship with Jones and his time here. He was not vindictive, just disappointed in the environment he had to work with.
At least he was paid for the detour. How do you think the players that Jones lured to Knoxville feel?
 
Yeah...now I'm worried.

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Go VOLS!!!!
 
Matt Ryan had his second best year statistically. Julio Jones had the second most receptions, yards, and TDs of his career as well. It's fun throwing out fantasty football stats though without acknowledging Atlanta had injuries at RB that severely hampered them.
Ryan did but they were throwing a ton due to being behind and they had zero running game. Sark improved some this year but he was bad last year when the Falcons were healthy. And yes Freeman was hurt but Coleman is a solid RB and Ito Smith looks like a good receiving back. Plus, Sark had a lethal group of WRs at his disposal with Jones, Ridley, and Sanu. So saying Ryan and Jones had good years doesn’t prove Sark did a good job.
 
Matt Ryan had his second best year statistically. Julio Jones had the second most receptions, yards, and TDs of his career as well. It's fun throwing out fantasty football stats though without acknowledging Atlanta had injuries at RB that severely hampered them.
Unfortunately stats don't win ballgames, or we'd be undefeated. After every loss this year, we had a JG stat thread. Not knocking on him, it's just what happened.
 
CANNOT HIRE SARK> Stats don't lie
Falcons were 12th in NFL in 3rd Down Conversions when Roof was closed. Last year 11th.
19th in NFL in completion Pct. when wind blowing more than 8 MPH. Last year 17th.
15th in NFL in Rushing Yds on 2nd Down from the left hash. Last year 14th.

All of these stats show a precep...pricep....really sharp drop in production.

No Way he would be successful here.
I wouldn’t say there’s no way he would be successful here. As good as the SEC is it’s still the JV to the NFL’s varsity. The man has great experience having run major college programs, been OC at major programs, and having been OC in the NFL. I think he has a shot at being successful given that experience. On the other hand, he wasn’t the right guy for Atlanta. As a Falcons fan I’m glad they are moving on.
 
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Pete Carroll?

Do you think Tennessee ever had a coach that was openly drunk at practice?

In the midst of the MeToo Movement, Freeze was unacceptable to many....Several thought more was to come and evidently the SEC felt that this was not the time....Time will heal wounds and he may be back in the SEC after his Repentance at Liberty.....

I hear what you are saying and can agree to a point....but can't dictate (control) who to hire or who not to hire....so riding the wave......

Who would you hire?
I would call Major Applewhite and ask him if he wanted an evening or a morning flight to Knoxville tomorrow, and if he had any preference as to what stock paper the contract should be printed on. I'd tell him we were giving him a $1 mil. per year raise over his most recent contract. If he passed, which seems unlikely at this juncture, I'd call Kiffin and offer him the same salary I just offered Applewhite; if he passed, which seems about as likely right now as a starving bear passing on honey, I'd offer that same salary to Yurcich. If I couldn't get Yurcich I'd offer said salary amount to Jake Spavital. If I whiffed on all four of the above, I'd go back to the top of the list and offer $3 mil.

It's not like we don't have the money - we've been pinching pennies on HC hires for thirty years now so we're due to spend for once.
 

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