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Ttucke11 said:
My (21 year old) brother asked me the other day why TN is always the villain in any sport. Or how we have such disproportional amount of game-altering officiating across all sports. I couldn't quite put my finger on it.

We aren't anymore irrational than Florida, LSU, Auburn, etc. And in my experiences at multiple SEC stadiums, arenas, fields we are significantly more friendly.
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The simple answer is psychological bias. We focus on our own sports. We read our own articles, watch our own games, etc. Do Vols fans watch 95% of others' games, read 95% of their articles, etc? Of course not. So we don't see their bad calls, anger, feeling of bias against them, etc. But it is 100% there across fanbases. Every team has their fans that feel slighted against, feel that refs are against them, media is against them, the league is against them, etc.

UK basketball literally has a forum dedicated to uncovering ref bias against their team. Bama fans think they're done wrong in football and by recruiting services. I've seen Premier League articles that were word for word posts you'd see from SEC fans about general "us v them" paranoia.

It is availability bias at its finest. Every fanbase thinks the same. Standard tribalism worldview cultivated by sports...it is what it is after all. Wouldn't expect anything less.
 
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Devo182 said:
The simple answer is psychological bias. We focus on our own sports. We read our own articles, watch our own games, etc. Do Vols fans watch 95% of others' games, read 95% of their articles, etc? Of course not. So we don't see their bad calls, anger, feeling of bias against them, etc. But it is 100% there across fanbases. Every team has their fans that feel slighted against, feel that refs are against them, media is against them, the league is against them, etc.

UK basketball literally has a forum dedicated to uncovering ref bias against their team. Bama fans think they're done wrong in football and by recruiting services. I've seen Premier League articles that were word for word posts you'd see from SEC fans about general "us v them" paranoia.

It is availability bias at its finest. EVERY fanbase thinks they're hated. Standard tribalism worldview.
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I'm sure there is some bias there. But the baseball team are full-on villains. And I think we've had 3 (about to be 4) rule changes in football happen due to circumstances directly regarding us. I feel as if we have gotten the most blatant screw jobs in comparison to other teams, of which I admittedly do not keep up with all the time.
 
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Ttucke11 said:
My (21 year old) brother asked me the other day why TN is always the villain in any sport. Or how we have such disproportional amount of game-altering officiating across all sports. I couldn't quite put my finger on it.

We aren't anymore irrational than Florida, LSU, Auburn, etc. And in my experiences at multiple SEC stadiums, arenas, fields we are significantly more friendly.
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We have a more friendly atmosphere at home than some of the other stadiums…. The issue is that our fans on social media absolutely insane….. I love it though!
 
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Ttucke11 said:
I'm sure there is some bias there. But the baseball team are full-on villains. And I think we've had 3 (about to be 4) rule changes in football happen due to circumstances directly regarding us. I feel as if we have gotten the most blatant screw jobs in comparison to other teams, of which I admittedly do not keep up with all the time.
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The baseball team acts like the Miami hurricanes did in football…. We love that role and bring a lot of it on ourselves…. I am on board with it and hope our football team follows suit.
 
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Ttucke11 said:
I'm sure there is some bias there. But the baseball team are full-on villains. And I think we've had 3 (about to be 4) rule changes in football happen due to circumstances directly regarding us. I feel as if we have gotten the most blatant screw jobs in comparison to other teams, of which I admittedly do not keep up with all the time.
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No doubt #1 will ALWAYS be hated. Bama football, Patriots football, Yankees back in the day.

Has nothing to do with being villains in other sports.

But I fully agree DOMINANT (dominate for you awful, awful, awful human beings 😂) will always be hated.

After all, the haters will always be around...
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Glitch said:
Pitts are very good dogs. They are big sweethearts, but have gotten a horrible reputation because of idiots who train them to be dangerous. Kind of like guns in that way. If you use a pittbull for violence, they will be violent. If you use them the right way and give them love and train them to be sweet boys and good girls then that is what they will be. All in how they are treated.
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honestly we just have a couple full blood timber wolves, we keep em chained up most days and feed them a strict diet of beer and carrots. Figure that's the best way to teach them
manners around the babies. You want protein, you hbest behavez
 
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Ttucke11 said:
My (21 year old) brother asked me the other day why TN is always the villain in any sport. Or how we have such disproportional amount of game-altering officiating across all sports. I couldn't quite put my finger on it.

We aren't anymore irrational than Florida, LSU, Auburn, etc. And in my experiences at multiple SEC stadiums, arenas, fields we are significantly more friendly.
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When you chase after something...it often runs away. Our fan base has been chasing down a dream, chasing the dragon, girl chasing, etc... It's a principal for how the Universe works.
 
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sjt18 said:
Exactly my point. There are about 11,000 FBS scholarship football players in the country. If only 5% sued that would be 550 lawsuits backed by NIL $$$. It might take the NCAA a billion dollars to litigate those cases.... and they would have to pretty much win them all.
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They wouldn't have to defend thousands upon thousands of lawsuits. These would all be put into one single class-action suit that the NCAA would have to defend one time per rule.
 
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Devo182 said:
No doubt #1 will ALWAYS be hated. Bama football, Patriots football, Yankees back in the day.

Has nothing to do with being villains in other sports.

But I fully agree DOMINANT (dominate for you awful, awful, awful human beings 😂) will always be hated.

After all, the haters will always be around...
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I don’t disagree with your comments about tribalism but there’s also something to be said about rightfully acquired notoriety. Philly was infamous for throwing snowballs at Santa (among other incidents.). I’d like to think that we have accomplished something similar here. We are a large, involved, somewhat unhinged fan base. Some of our most successful recent athletics programs have successfully tapped directly into that. When that happens it becomes this self perpetuating thing that eventually becomes too big and too frequent to not notice.
 
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butchna said:
An athlete either CAN profit off his own brand or he CAN’T. Supreme Court reversed the long-standing precedent of the latter.
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For like the 10th time, NO. SCOTUS. HAS. NOT. My entire point all along has been to clear up this exact thought. The NCAA has never been challenged in court re: NIL regulations. Not one single time. Which is why they still have a full arsenal to regulate. They have lost twice solely based on a cap of educational benefits. I don't know why this is so hard to grasp. I feel like I am talking to a child.

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The NCAA can regulate what their member schools can offer in scholarships and other student athlete benefits. They can’t sidle up to Spyre and demand they only offer the same amount available to a Vandy commit. Just can’t.
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Well the NCAA sounds like it is trying to regulate SPYRE and collectives acting as a booster proxy for the school. They announced it in May. What comes of it? I am not sure, it seems on very shaky legal grounds. But the NCAA sent guidance to member schools that collectives are boosters, and boosters cannot have contact with prospective S-As.

But more to the point I think you are trying to make. I have been very clear on this point multiple times. You are correct that the NCAA can't regulate a private contract between two private entities. They cannot say "SPYRE may offer only X." I never claimed they could. But that still does not mean that the NCAA cannot regulate the athletes attempting to play college sports. And that is exactly where the regulations will be aimed. The rule will be something along the lines of a cap on the player: "Athlete may not make over X in a year to maintain amateur eligibility" or "Players are ineligible to receive inducements for NIL until they have completed X amount of class in a satisfactory manner."
 
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