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thistime said:
Does anyone know of a player that the Vols have courted, be it walk on or whatever, that is from your area that is a sleeper or a really good project player for the future in this class..
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Hugh Jaynus plays TE here locally. Vols havent offered yet but are monitoring.
 
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jave36 said:
There's no way aTm boosters have more money than any other major program.
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Their boosters may not have more money. But, it appears they may be more willing to give. At over $12.7 billion, the school had the 7th largest endowment in the country at EOY 2020.

I suspect some of those same donors who contribute to the endowment also pour additional funds into the AD.
 
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Devo182 said:
I'm definitely not part of the complaining group, because these is such a unique situation we haven't been in before.

But I'm not sure that's an accurate statement either. I believe Kiffin had a top 10 1st class, as did Butch's first full class (2014). Dooley (2011) and Pruitt (2019) had top 15 (maybe 13th or 14th).

Of course there's some necessary judgment there - considering first full classes. I'm considering this Heupel's first full class ofc, as I have for our other coaches except Kiffin who had some time to pull together his first class together. Obviously can't blame Heupel for last year's class.

Fact is most every coach BENEFITS from their first class. It's the classic "first year HC bump". They sell a rebuild...a new vision...blahblah. Then that fades off going into their 2nd full class and especially 3rd when they have to replace the hype with winning the crucial "inflection point" games - something our coaches have regularly failed time and time again...thus never getting over the hump. Heupel was handed the complete opposite - a 1st year disaster. But...unlike the last 2 guys, he won on the field in Y1 and hopefully that propels the 2023 class. He'll need it. He isn't being handed anything, that's for sure. He'll have to go out and win those inflection point games with probably less talent than the last 2 guys did...but he's far better Xs and Os so there's definitely hope.
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Kiffin had all the juice that year…. We were one year away from an east title and had hired an all star staff using helicopters and everything to bring in recruits…. The rest are perfect examples of my feelings…. Butch had the best class as he hit on a few studs….. he also had a class of 32 and had a ton of bad misses in that class… we can’t recruit 32 guys anymore…. If you go back and look at Pruitt and Dooleys classes….. I doubt either one of them would be too 20 if re ranked today…. We have to trust that the staff can evaluate guys until they prove they can’t…. Talent/fit matters more than stars until we are ready to start competing for championships.
 
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chargervol said:
My hope, *IF forced to rein it in, this mess could lead to more parity. But been in agreement on everything else.

Deleted earlier response to multiple "it's always been the same" posts.
Summary, blatantly inaccurate.

There's been multiple era's with completely different amounts of participation, illegality, funding and impact, especially on parity.

From almost none, to basically any program could if THE UNIVERSITY chose to do certain things. Now this, so far, unregulated wild west-ish show that is beyond university control.
*All different*.. every single one.
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Exactly
 
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Jack5151 said:
He was featured prominently in the Ken Burns WWII documentary "The War". It's pretty awesome that you got to meet that guy.
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yeah it was pure luck. we were doing the tourist thing visiting the USS Alabama battleship memorial and as we finished and was visiting the gift shop he was there signing books and talking with folks. He was really awesome. As he details in the book, he struggled thru many issues for 30 plus years after the war. But he also had a pretty good sense of humor all things considered. The Japanese used those guys as their slaves and moved them around quite a bit. The ones that were still alive at the end of the war were being forced to dig their own graves. He laughed about how slow they could go. Needless to say, he didn't own a Honda.

by the way....go back to the book cover in my previous post.....he is the tall one in the black pants
 
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BigSteve09 said:


Harbaugh or Tucker seem like the favorites judging by the AP love this year for Tucker and Harbaugh finally winning his division and conference

I could see Fickell because of getting a G5 to the playoff but he didn't do anything extraordinary that he didn't do last year
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Kirby admitted he wasn’t a good coach, but a good recruiter.
 
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The real winner of bowl season was UK. They got Iowa...possibly the most overrated team in recent memory. They have a bottom 15 offense nationally and give up more YPP than they gain 😆 They're closer to a 6-6/7-5 B1G team and a 5-7 SEC team.

Expect UK to cruise past them. Not like Michigan did (50-3 😅) but they'll handle them.

Nothing to do with Purdue, but wish we had gotten Iowa...again...
 
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