Recruiting Forum Football Talk IV

[Ulysees E. McGill]

If I was starting a team right now and could pick any QB in history for my team, I would not pick Brady.

In that scenario..I'd actually probably take Steve Young with todays rules.

 

[Weezer]

Being it was almost a decade before I was born...nope.

Fair. It's just that was always the big thing about Johnny coming home. He had just won a NC at Pitt.

 

[bignewt]

Troy was just lucky that he happened to be on the Cowboys when Jones decided to build a dynasty. Nothing else to it, guy threw for 20 TDs one year in his entire career. Even with Irvin (HOF), Emmitt (HOF), Allen (HOF), Haley (HOF), Sanders (HOF) and a host of other greats that were around him who haven't made the hall (Novacek, Moose, Woodson, Lett, Newton, Norton Jr.)

Dude you are never getting an invite to THE STAR bad mouthing Troy.

 

[Newman]

Good for Theo. Hope he gets a shot in the league.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

We need a VN Royal Rumble every year.

I'd win...just because I am an old meanass sonuva.....

 

[VolsDoc81TX]

Which of you started this melee?
Massive brawl at Pennsylvania Golden Corral involving 40 people erupts over steak: Police — Fox News

We all assumed that you did…

 

[volfaninpa]

Don't these morans know its supposed to be a Waffle House?

Caught on camera: 40-person fight erupts at Golden Corral in Pa.

Good thing I went to Hoss's that night.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

He had several in Indy. Worst rated got hot in the playoffs and was key to his lone SB win there.

5 in the top 10 in PA while he was there, 2 of them made the SB.


One judgement of Peyton that has always been accurate is that during the playoffs he wasn't the same level of QB.


Regular Season
186-79
65.3% 270.5 YPG, 2 TDs, 0.9 INT

Playoffs
14-13
63.2% 271.8 YPG, 1.5 TDs, 0.9 INT

 

[MemphisVol3]

I think Brees is overrated. Growing up Favre and Peyton was favorite. Early in his career Brady had a better team around him then Peyton. Peyton never had a good D until he got to Denver.

Yeah Brady definitely had a better team and his team had better defenses.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Leaning towards Montana here, tougher Era, Stats were better in the post season compared to his regular season, I think I saw a stat the other day that he never threw a pick in a SB, and was undefeated in his SB appearances

Montana was a maestro in the Super Bowl.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Yeah he just threw for NFL records in yards and TDs on the Broncos STACKED SB team.... lol

With a broke neck...that is even more impressive.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Dude you are never getting an invite to THE STAR bad mouthing Troy.

Eh, the first SB I really watched was Dallas vs Pittsburgh (was a Steelers fan at the time...well my dad was and thus I was by default). Watching O'Donnell just hand that game away to a Cowboys team that couldn't do anything against the Steelers defense always put a bad taste in my mouth towards the Cowboys.

What I will say is that Emmitt Smith, that OL, and Irvin were all elite and HOF quality players. That's about it imo though.

 

[SugarCC]

The opposite of that is why Belichick isn't the greatest coach... He only has had 1 QB go to a Super Bowl. Don Shula took 4 different QB's to the SB.

If I knew for certain Belichick didn't cheat, I'd probably consider him the GOAT; however, SPYGATE...and, that's just the one we know about.

 

[volbeast33]

Eh, the first SB I really watched was Dallas vs Pittsburgh (was a Steelers fan at the time...well my dad was and thus I was by default). Watching O'Donnell just hand that game away to a Cowboys team that couldn't do anything against the Steelers defense always put a bad taste in my mouth towards the Cowboys.

What I will say is that Emmitt Smith, that OL, and Irvin were all elite and HOF quality players. That's about it imo though.

Greg Lloyd was my favorite steeler of all time… loved watching him play.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

He was 1-3 against Peyton in AFC Championship games.

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[Weezer]

Greg Lloyd was my favorite steeler of all time… loved watching him play.

Mine was Mean Joe, and it was based entirely off the Coke commercial.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Basically for me I don't argue GOAT anymore, it's completely subjective.

If your personal GOAT is one of these then I can completely understand why you'd mention them. Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Brett Favre, Dan Marino, John Elway, Johnny Unitas, or Joe Montana EDIT: and Aaron Rodgers

That's 8 QBs that I feel like objectively should be in the debate. And there are kids that have grown up watching in the 2000s that will be talking about Philip Rivers, Big Ben, and Eli Manning... (also that 2004 QB draft class is hands down the GOAT, no debate to be had there)

 

[TheRain]

The opposite of that is why Belichick isn't the greatest coach... He only has had 1 QB go to a Super Bowl. Don Shula took 4 different QB's to the SB.

Including David Woodley.

 

[peaygolf]

Including David Woodley.

That should be the clear reason he's the "Goat" coach!

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Greg Lloyd was my favorite steeler of all time… loved watching him play.

Loved the way all those LBs played, Kevin Greene & Levon Kirkland (should also be in HOF with Greene imo)

 

[JT3]

Basically for me I don't argue GOAT anymore, it's completely subjective.

If your personal GOAT is one of these then I can completely understand why you'd mention them. Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Brett Favre, Dan Marino, John Elway, Johnny Unitas, or Joe Montana

That's 8 QBs that I feel like objectively should be in the debate. And there are kids that have grown up watching in the 20s that will be talking about Philip Rivers, Big Ben, and Eli Manning... (also that 2004 QB draft class is hands down the GOAT, no debate to be had there)

1983 QB class was better

 

[peaygolf]

Mine was Mean Joe, and it was based entirely off the Coke commercial.

Have his autograph on a Coke Bottle

 

[butchna]

5 in the top 10 in PA while he was there, 2 of them made the SB.
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One judgement of Peyton that has always been accurate is that during the playoffs he wasn't the same level of QB.


Regular Season
186-79
65.3% 270.5 YPG, 2 TDs, 0.9 INT

Playoffs
14-13
63.2% 271.8 YPG, 1.5 TDs, 0.9 INT

2007 season stung the most. Top ranked defense coming off a SB win and got beat in the divisional when Manning got outdueled by Billy Volek.

 

[SugarCC]

Basically for me I don't argue GOAT anymore, it's completely subjective.

If your personal GOAT is one of these then I can completely understand why you'd mention them. Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Brett Favre, Dan Marino, John Elway, Johnny Unitas, or Joe Montana

That's 8 QBs that I feel like objectively should be in the debate. And there are kids that have grown up watching in the 2000s that will be talking about Philip Rivers, Big Ben, and Eli Manning... (also that 2004 QB draft class is hands down the GOAT, no debate to be had there)

First off: Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Brett Favre...

Also, Aaron Rodgers HAS TO be mentioned in your post, somewhere...especially of you're mentioning Philip Rivers.

 

[hotcypress]

Of the current QBs, I'll take Josh Allen. He can run for 80 and throw 3 tds on just about any team. He put the Bills on his back against the Chiefs. He's shown a lot of toughness. He can reproduce Lamar Jackson level stats with real consistency. Plus, he's still pretty young.