Recruiting Forum Football Talk IV

[BigOrangeVols]

Crazy to think our defense plays harder and faster in 2 games under new DC than under a defensive guru in Pruitt. I love how this staff uses Banks and Jackson. The development of Banks in such a short period is fantastic. While we gave up points, Pitt had to absolutely earn every yard outside of penalties. There was no just easy right down the field with no challenge or punching back. Even on their scoring drives their were plays to be made and we hit them in the mouth and forced Pickett to be a playmaker. We were close to sacks on third down a few times that would have stopped scoring drives.

Oh and no more Page please. Need to roll 3 man rotation or give another younger guy with similar talent level a shot to get better

Hang the banner.

"Played hard and fast but gave up 41"

 

[volinbama256]

DO YOU THINK HOOKER MOVES THE BALL AGAINST ANY DEFENSE WITH A PULSE??? BECAUSE I DON'T

HE DID SATURDAY

 

[pierce60]

 

[Adam2014]

 

[butchna]

Exactly. The deal with Cut was done and they refused to let him bring some of his staff, insisted he retain a few of the existing. They wanted to tie his hands behind his back and do it their way, probably because of their contracts. Cut made the right choice to stay at Duke and finish his career where he was appreciated.

Patterson would have crawled over broken glass to get here back then, but they turned their noses up at him. Wasn't their type of guy personally.

They made a bunch of panic hires for a decade. Heup was not one, he was the one in the pocket of the new AD who would get the job if the bigger fish could not be reeled in. Heup knew the conditions of the search up front and folks should see that he does have upside as a HC. If they don't, they are choosing to not see it. He's a current day version of Cut. May not become elite, but can deliver winning seasons. Will see how it goes.

So any talk of bargain bin shopping is just talk. That's how badly the program has been trashed that no proven, top HC was going to come here. The university will lose a lot of supporters in the process if Heup is not a quick study and takes awhile to get there, but the new TV deal should help with that. Hopefully, he is a quick study starting with the QB issue. I'm confident Banks will resolve the D issues as they develop and add real SEC players on that side. He does some really good things with his scheme. We lack quality players in some spots there.

Patterson was a proven MID-MAJOR coach at the time. No glass but he was gettable. Kiffin was on Clemson’s short list also, so Hamilton wasn’t in left field.

 

[TheMagnificantOne]

Wonder if Milton does well in practice because our secondary has been slaw for years?

I mean, I'm sure some of us could show out against our secondary, especially when they rotate guys reps.

You may have a point there

 

[KPT_VFL]

It sucks because we are close to entering SEC play and we are having QB issues. We schedule winnable games at the beginning of the year to get live reps and meaningful experience. IF Hooker or Bailey were to start at Florida that’s a tough ask considering we would have wasted 3 games to get them experience by leaving in Milton.

 

[SouthKnoxVOL]

Hooker gives off Dobbs vibes. I'm honestly surprised more people aren't onboard with that.

If Hooker started against Pitt.....UT would have won...no doubt in my mind.

 

[butchna]

Not hiring Gary Patterson was the biggest mistake Hamilton could have made.

We’d have complained incessantly about his recruiting…Cut’s too.

 

[TrippieRedd]

Overthrowing and firing bullets has nothing to do with the secondary. He does well in practice because he's putting out a fraction of the adrenaline he does in a game. The only way a coach can know he can't overcome that is to try to let him do so in a game situation. Heupel isn't Pruitt or Butch. He isn't going to let that continue if there is no hope.

Overall point is accuracy.

When you're playing against a ****** secondary....you should get the rest of the point.

Overthrows = having to do with accuracy.

 

[KPT_VFL]

I say roll with Hooker against Tech and play Bailey when it’s out of hand. If Hooker plays well and hits the open passes he starts at Florida.

 

[volinbama256]

watched this one play 20 times already. Easy TD, could have waited in the Chick-Fil-A drive thru, digested your food, took a dump and still could have made the throw with ease.

makes me nauseous ----- freakin Maurer could have, and would have made most of these throws... think about it...

 

[SSVol]

Overall point is accuracy.

When you're playing against a ****** secondary....you should get the rest of the point.

Overthrows = having to do with accuracy.

Overthrows to a wide open WR have zero to do with the secondary. If he was throwing picks, I would agree.

 

[TrippieRedd]

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[volinbama256]

I won't go as far as you did the other day lmao, but I will say Milton is useless af.

I've said a few times--- he's got three years to play... call this season a wash for him and have him work the entire year on passing/accuracy.... Hooker will be gone next season and Milton will have two years left... Milton can't argue with the staff at this point about needing work/development, it's on tape... if he's smart, he'll swallow his pride, take the time this season to improve, and then he has two years to light it up and depending on the improvement, maybe get drafted if he truly gets the accuracy thing down...

 

[KPT_VFL]

This isn’t a case like we had with JG where he was just forcing awful throws. We have guys WIDE OPEN and can’t hit them. This isn’t poor decision making and easily fixable. Surely one of the 3 QBs can make these simple throws.

 

[volinbama256]

Wonder if Milton does well in practice because our secondary has been slaw for years?

I mean, I'm sure some of us could show out against our secondary, especially when they rotate guys reps.

yeah no one is talking about the fact that after the first quarter, pitt had their way with our secondary... it is not good. Wonder if Hank Hill still thinks A Taylor is still a first round draft pic, LOL...

 

[TrippieRedd]

this made me laugh.

@SSVol you hear that? A.c.c.u.r.a.c.y

 

[SSVol]

yeah no one is talking about the fact that after the first quarter, pitt had their way with our secondary... it is not good. Wonder if Hank Hill still thinks A Taylor is still a first round draft pic, LOL...

Lack of pass rush. BY should help that.

 

[Ten_Titans]

watched this one play 20 times already. Easy TD, could have waited in the Chick-Fil-A drive thru, digested your food, took a dump and still could have made the throw with ease.

He had three overthrows against Pitt that were worse than that one by my count.

When the DB is beat by three steps, even an underthrow isn't going to be intercepted. It will probably be a PI 9/10 times.

Some of these are just inexcusable really.

 

[InstrumentalVol]

Every time I close my eyes I see Milton overthrowing a wide open, completely uncovered, WR.

Can't believe we don't have one guy in the QB room who is that dude.

 

[volinbama256]

Lack of pass rush. BY should help that.

I hope so................ First quarter our D line looked awesome... then, like they weren't in shape, the next three quarters, they just danced with Pitt's O line and hardly ever got to the QB... Conditioning ????

 

[TrippieRedd]

I hope so................ First quarter our D line looked awesome... then, like they weren't in shape, the next three quarters, they just danced with Pitt's O line and hardly ever got to the QB... Conditioning ????

DL is the only position that gets a pass this year, only because we haven't had a good DL coach that works the **** out of our players.

I've been content with their play.

 

[Ten_Titans]

If Hooker started against Pitt.....UT would have won...no doubt in my mind.

We would have went up 21-0. Hard to imagine we blow that lead.

 

[Ten_Titans]

I hope so................ First quarter our D line looked awesome... then, like they weren't in shape, the next three quarters, they just danced with Pitt's O line and hardly ever got to the QB... Conditioning ????

I mean we need to accept the fact that RG is trying to turn chicken **** into chicken salad at that position. They need to be at least passable, which they have been IMO. We need a pass rush and hopefully Byron Young will provide a spark there to take some of the load off of Tyler Baron.