Recruiting Football Talk VIII

[Weezer]

The '80's and '90's produced the best basketball IMO.


My opinion is also a fact.

 

[VolInDayton]

I hate this. Let's say Florida and FSU are both 9-3, but FSU beats UF at the end of the year. FSU is behind Miami and Clemson in the standings while UF is 4th in the SEC. You're telling me UF gets an AQ while FSU is out? No friggin way dude.

The current model is great aside from seedings. No first round byes just for winning your conference and you would have a pretty perfect system.

FSU would get in probably due to the 3 at large spots. When you are letting 16 teams in you are letting in lot of teams. It makes no sense to let this many teams in when your current structure is a hand full ov teams with 20+ million dollar rosters. The parity will never be there to support that many playoff games.

 

[SmyrnaATLVolisback]

If this defense stays healthy this year…. They could be special…

Joseph Ross Herring
West Bailey Westhersby
Eason Moi
Hobbs Schell Campbell
Spillman Carter
Boo McCoy Gibson Hood Turrentine Farooq

Dominating

 

[VolInDayton]

If this defense stays healthy this year…. They could be special…

Joseph Ross Herring
West Bailey Westhersby
Eason Moi
Hobbs Schell Campbell
Spillman Carter
Boo McCoy Gibson Hood Turrentine Farooq

Dominating

I think our defense is slept on. Could easily be better overall than last years defense. The defensive line doesn't have the depth but still has extremly talented players and we should have better linebacker and defensive back play

 

[Carp]

MJ is my GOAT, but I'd put Bird above LeBron. Not even sure they play true basketball anymore as much as the rules have changed. Today's basketball is soft. They need to bring back contact.

I love to **** on LeBron, but he is legit the most talented player to ever play this game. No one else can compete with what he is able to do from a talent standpoint. Maybe Magic. But that's it.

But he is most certainly soft. He wouldn't have survived for 20 years in the league if he came up in the 80's.

Kobe is #2 for me. I know the stats don't really back that up, but he was just such a fierce competitor. And plenty of NBA stars feel that way too.

Shaq was my favorite. And honestly from a dominance standpoint, he is close to the top too. Literally no one could stop prime Shaq unless you fouled him.

 

[crovol]

My guy, the Joker has been the best player on the planet for the last 5 years and has 3 MVPs to prove it. It isn't a white thing.

Bird was amazing. He's widely considered top 10 all time. But he is firmly outside of the GOAT conversation.

nope

 

[Carp]

FSU would get in probably due to the 3 at large spots. When you are letting 16 teams in you are letting in lot of teams. It makes no sense to let this many teams in when your current structure is a hand full ov teams with 20+ million dollar rosters. The parity will never be there to support that many playoff games.

I would argue that parity is better than ever. For the most part, these 20 million dollar teams seem to be losing just as many 5 stars as they bring in. When you can't hoard a 5-10 5 stars on the bench anymore, it's make it harder to sustain program success. The portal is fickle beast. And those players transfer to smaller programs where they generally ball out.

 

[Carp]

nope

Nope what?

 

[rikberry31]

My guy, the Joker has been the best player on the planet for the last 5 years and has 3 MVPs to prove it. It isn't a white thing.

Bird was amazing. He's widely considered top 10 all time. But he is firmly outside of the GOAT conversation.

Well I now see that I have been looking at this all wrong. I just realized that pretty much everything that predates the Iphone is inferior, stupid, and racist.
Jokic, as did LBJ and MJ, a different NBA than Larry Bird played in. The rules have been changed to allow the modern style of play.

 

[VolInDayton]

I would argue that parity is better than ever. For the most part, these 20 million dollar teams seem to be losing just as many 5 stars as they bring in. When you can't hoard a 5-10 5 stars on the bench anymore, it's make it harder to sustain program success. The portal is fickle beast. And those players transfer to smaller programs where they generally ball out.

I would have agreed with you in 2022 ans 2023 but as the NIL and transfer portal continues to spiral out of control, the parity will be worst than ever. I think with a little structure the parity will get there. But I dont really need to see a 16 team playoff in college football. I think it waters down the regular season. There were a lot of important games to see who was getting those last few spots, but all those teams got killed in the first round. Its only going to be less exciting when you shift that back 4 spots.

 

[TN-POSSUM]

For you? Probably Messi.

Nope..... Still Larry Bird.

 

[TN-POSSUM]

Well I now see that I have been looking at this all wrong. I just realized that pretty much everything that predates the Iphone is inferior, stupid, and racist.
Jokic, as did LBJ and MJ, a different NBA than Larry Bird played in. The rules have been changed to allow the modern style of play.

I want to ask him old old he is. He posts like he's in his 30s.... maybe 35 or 36.... maybe younger than that.





*What the heck. Hey @Carp..... old old are you?

 

[TN-POSSUM]

For you? Probably Messi.

Grrr

 

[screenthis]

This is fair.

Lebron isnt even in my top 5.

OH, this topic again. Lebron is my Power Forward on an all time starting 5. Larry Bird is over there at Small Forward. Magic at PG and Jordan at SG. Center? That's tough. I'll give the old timers Bill Russell. I like his intelligence.

 

[TN-POSSUM]

The greatest football player of all time .....

Spoiler

"HE'S BLACK!!!"

 

[TN-POSSUM]

OH, this topic again. Lebron is my Power Forward on an all time starting 5. Larry Bird is over there at Small Forward. Magic at PG and Jordan at SG. Center? That's tough. I'll give the old timers Bill Russell. I like his intelligence.

Tim Duncan's a much better PF than LeBron.

PG- Magic
SG- Jordan
SF- Bird
PF- Duncan
C- Shaquille


That's your 5 greatest of all timers at their natural playing positions. (For reference, I'm 50.)

 

[screenthis]

Tim Duncan's a much better PF than LeBron.

PG- Magic
SG- Jordan
SF- Bird
PF- Duncan
C- Shaquille


That's your 5 greatest of all timers at their natural playing positions. (For reference, I'm 50.)

My 'Lebron' will destroy your Duncan.

 

[Weezer]

I love to **** on LeBron, but he is legit the most talented player to ever play this game. No one else can compete with what he is able to do from a talent standpoint. Maybe Magic. But that's it.

But he is most certainly soft. He wouldn't have survived for 20 years in the league if he came up in the 80's.

Kobe is #2 for me. I know the stats don't really back that up, but he was just such a fierce competitor. And plenty of NBA stars feel that way too.

Shaq was my favorite. And honestly from a dominance standpoint, he is close to the top too. Literally no one could stop prime Shaq unless you fouled him.

Michael Jordan = GOAT = FACT

 

[LaagerVol]

F100 Grand National in Pigeon Forge next week.

How can you not go with the cam after hearing that first big orange one chop chop as it was going down the strip?

 

[SagginVawls]

Me reading GOAT arguments for the past 4 days.

 

[Weezer]

Tim Duncan's a much better PF than LeBron.

PG- Magic
SG- Jordan
SF- Bird
PF- Duncan
C- Shaquille


That's your 5 greatest of all timers at their natural playing positions. (For reference, I'm 50.)

I think I would put Kareem above Shaq. Shaq couldn't hit FTs worth a damn, and Hack-a-Shaq was real.

 

[rikberry31]

'Sure love that Nebraska team.'

'Why?'

Being able to look in mirror and ask honest questions.

I had an epiphany the other day. I have looked in the mirror. I said to myself, "Maybe everyone doesn't hold my worldview, maybe there are people who don't have prejudices that affect their every thought and move , maybe my views are influenced by the by the fact that I am an old white privileged racist.
Maybe I should be arbitrarily pigeon holing everyone into an identity based on what they look like or their wikipedia page instead of wasting time learning about them as people. Maybe people's character doesn't matter and they should be judged solely on what identity boxes they check.
I now realize that the only reason that I think Larry Bird a great player is because he is white and old. I am having a little trouble juxtaposing that with fact that I was much more a fan of Dr. J, I was probably just compensating.
Wow that was freeing. Man, life is going be a lot easier now.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

Looked like one...

Its purdy no matter hwat.

Admittedly i'm a Toyota guy.

I'd like to have one of the old toyota's like Marty McFly's.

 

[Weezer]

My 'Lebron' will destroy your Duncan.

Please. Duncan just has to poke him in the eye once and your LeBron will be on the bench for a week with an injured labia.

 

[LaagerVol]

I love to **** on LeBron, but he is legit the most talented player to ever play this game. No one else can compete with what he is able to do from a talent standpoint. Maybe Magic. But that's it.

But he is most certainly soft. He wouldn't have survived for 20 years in the league if he came up in the 80's.

Kobe is #2 for me. I know the stats don't really back that up, but he was just such a fierce competitor. And plenty of NBA stars feel that way too.

Shaq was my favorite. And honestly from a dominance standpoint, he is close to the top too. Literally no one could stop prime Shaq unless you fouled him.

I don’t think Lebron is close to the most talented. I would say most athletic for his size.

Hakeem absolutely schooled Shaq in the finals