Recruiting Football Talk VIII

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UpstateVol613 said:
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I hate this. Let's say Florida and FSU are both 9-3, but FSU beats UF at the end of the year. FSU is behind Miami and Clemson in the standings while UF is 4th in the SEC. You're telling me UF gets an AQ while FSU is out? No friggin way dude.

The current model is great aside from seedings. No first round byes just for winning your conference and you would have a pretty perfect system.
 
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Carp said:
Because it's only ever old white dudes that try claim Bird is the Goat. Wonder why that is?

And this is coming from an old(ish) white dude.
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If we are honest, Larry Bird being white is a strike against him. He is not the prototypical modern basketball player. I really think that many are biased against him because he is white and doesn't fit the mold. Same way there were so many who hated that little white girl from Iowa.
Most of those passing definitive judgement on Bird have probably never seen him play. The NBA has a completely different fanbase now than it did in the 70's and 80's, most NBA fans today see MJ as the old days and consider anything before inferior. It is very typical, particularly today for those into lazy arguments to merely on appearance attach an identity and pass judgement. It is a lot easier to hate someone when you know nothing about them.
 
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DarthVol1 said:
Not in their case. The Pirates org literally has 3 times the analytics staff of any other team. The problem is they trample over the top of each other. The media in Pitt writes about when BP takes place, there are dozens of them walking around with tablets. They could cut that staff in half and have some money to spend on people that can actually hit instead of theoretical hit. They need some actual baseball people in their ops, not MBAs.
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I don't know exactly how they split up their staff but they should do whatever team should be doing. The examples that they should follow are the Astros, Braves, Rays and Dodgers. It is not a coincidence that three of those teams are considered to have the top 3 analytic departments in baseball. Carry as little salary as you can while you draft, and acquire talent. sign guys with good metrics that you can develop( have a hitting and pitching lab)call everyone up at the same time so you have organizational control for a few years. Sign them to extra years so it will be financially viable to the organization. Players when you first call them up bc it will be a few years until they can be a free agent.
 
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rikberry31 said:
If we are honest, Larry Bird being white is a strike against him. He is not the prototypical modern basketball player. I really think that many are biased against him because he is white and doesn't fit the mold. Same way there were so many who hated that little white girl from Iowa.
Most of those passing definitive judgement on Bird have probably never seen him play. The NBA has a completely different fanbase now than it did in the 70's and 80's, most NBA fans today see MJ as the old days and consider anything before inferior. It is very typical, particularly today for those into lazy arguments to merely on appearance attach an identity and pass judgement. It is a lot easier to hate someone when you know nothing about them.
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My guy, the Joker has been the best player on the planet for the last 5 years and has 3 MVPs to prove it. It isn't a white thing.

Bird was amazing. He's widely considered top 10 all time. But he is firmly outside of the GOAT conversation.
 
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Carp said:
Because it's only ever old white dudes that try claim Bird is the Goat. Wonder why that is?

And this is coming from an old(ish) white dude.
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Carp said:
My guy, the Joker has been the best player on the planet for the last 5 years and has 3 MVPs to prove it. It isn't a white thing.
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Carp said:
My guy, the Joker has been the best player on the planet for the last 5 years and has 3 MVPs to prove it. It isn't a white thing.

Bird was amazing. He's widely considered top 10 all time. But he is firmly outside of the GOAT conversation.
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MJ is my GOAT, but I'd put Bird above LeBron. Not even sure they play true basketball anymore as much as the rules have changed. Today's basketball is soft. They need to bring back contact.
 
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