Recruiting Discussion

[BruinVol]

If any AD dictates who is being recruited in any sport then they are crossing the line. The only time they should remotely get involved is when a recruit has legal issues.

 

[BigZiti09]

If any AD dictates who is being recruited in any sport then they are crossing the line. The only time they should remotely get involved is when a recruit has legal issues.

Can you read?

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Fulmer has nothing to do with that.

Sure it has, until Fulmer took over we were only recruiting 3 stars

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Why not both ?

Were those offers in place before or after Fulmer became AD?

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Exactly. Nobody said it’s only because of having PF. I listed 3 reasons that we’ve picked it up in recruiting.

Nobody is arguing the first 2, in fact most here have been saying those same 2 things for awhile.

 

[walkenvol]

Fulmer has nothing to do with that.

How can you know this? I'm sure PF doesn't go over CRB's recruiting board, it is however perfectly reasonable that PF could have reviewed CRB's recruiting budget/receipts and questioned why they weren't higher. If the AD is pro-recruiting and pushes that agenda to all sports coaches then CRB might have listened and picked up his pace. I don't have a clue if that happened, but it's certainly a possibility.

 

[BigZiti09]

Sure it has, until Fulmer took over we were only recruiting 3 stars

Biggest difference is we are actually recruiting the offers now. The whole staff is.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Biggest difference is we are actually recruiting the offers now. The whole staff is.

So we weren’t recruiting Petrusev or Simons in 2018?

 

[BruinVol]

A coach as an AD is the LAST one to get involved with recruiting more than $

 

[BigZiti09]

So we weren’t recruiting Petrusev or Simons in 2018?

Yeah that’s what I said.

 

[BigZiti09]

A coach as a an AD is the LAST one to get involved with recruiting more than $

Bruin you are arguing a point nobody is trying to make. Read the posts.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Yeah that’s what I said.

You said that’s the difference, which would suggest it’s something we weren’t doing before.

 

[BigZiti09]

You said that’s the difference, which would suggest it’s something we weren’t doing before.

We recruited those two guys. That is true. We are much more active this spring and summer. Not sure why you continue to deny that. Only you are taking that stance. Only you.

 

[BruinVol]

3. We have an AD who values recruiting and sees UT for what it should be. He’s gonna encourage the staff to bring the best to UT.

I can read perfectly fine.

The only thing Fulmer is going to do is make sure Barnes has the $ to recruit who Barnes feels he wants. Any AD that was a coach knows they don't want an AD telling them who to offer. That's dumb

 

[tmack50]

When was that? :dance:

It was on his Twitter page from May 7th. From the crowd surrounding him, I would say it was from a dunk contest in one of the recent AAU events.

 

[BigZiti09]

I can read perfectly fine.

The only thing Fulmer is going to do is make sure Barnes has the $ to recruit who Barnes feels he wants. Any AD that was a coach knows they don't want an AD telling them who to offer. That's dumb

You are using Your imagination to come up with something that I did not say.

 

[cncchris33]

Fulmer didn't hire Barnes. He has no investment in him. Barnes has coached long enough to know that. He needs to impress his new boss...on the court and off. Barnes also realizes that as a former coach, Fulmer can/will sympathize with him on some bad breaks on the recruiting trail (Simons), but he also knows he can't pull the wool over Phil's eyes in terms of recruiting, either. Phil was one of the best in his day. He knows the struggles and he knows when someone just isn't working hard enough.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

We recruited those two guys. That is true. We are much more active this spring and summer. Not sure why you continue to deny that. Only you are taking that stance. Only you.

We had 1 spot for 2018, we have 4 for 2019...maybe that plays a part? Nah, gotta be the Fulmer effect, only explanation.

 

[BigZiti09]

We had 1 spot for 2018, we have 4 for 2019...maybe that plays a part? Nah, gotta be the Fulmer effect, only explanation.

Read

 

[BruinVol]

You are using Your imagination to come up with something that I did not say.

So you didn't say Fulmer is behind these offers of higher rated players?

If not please clarify

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Fulmer didn't hire Barnes. He has no investment in him. Barnes has coached long enough to know that. He needs to impress his new boss...on the court and off. Barnes also realizes that as a former coach, Fulmer can/will sympathize with him on some bad breaks on the recruiting trail (Simons), but he also knows he can't pull the wool over Phil's eyes in terms of recruiting, either. Phil was one of the best in his day. He knows the struggles and he knows when someone just isn't working hard enough.

I would agree with this if I truly believe Barnes and staff weren’t just as active this year as they were the previous seasons. Obviously 2018 was a bit different given the number of scholarships, but we were still present at every major AAU event just like we have been this season.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Read

Staff is putting in same effort, I’m sorry you didn’t see enough twitter posts from last 2 years to meet your quota.

 

[BruinVol]

So from looking back over the post it appears Ziti has said Fulmer expects Barnes to bring in the best players and also has forced Barnes to work and stop being lazy on the trail.

Damn Fulmer might just save this program

 

[BigZiti09]

Staff is putting in same effort.

I’m sure you believe that. That’s cool.

 

[BigZiti09]

Fulmer didn't hire Barnes. He has no investment in him. Barnes has coached long enough to know that. He needs to impress his new boss...on the court and off. Barnes also realizes that as a former coach, Fulmer can/will sympathize with him on some bad breaks on the recruiting trail (Simons), but he also knows he can't pull the wool over Phil's eyes in terms of recruiting, either. Phil was one of the best in his day. He knows the struggles and he knows when someone just isn't working hard enough.

Right. It’s not any different than having a boss in any other job. If you have a boss who values punctuality you show up on time. If you have a boss who is a neat freak you don’t let your desk look like a train wreck. You have a boss who prioritizes recruiting you get your tail to some gyms and start showing up at homes and schools too. Bet we don’t get a “he’s earned the right” comment from an assistant anytime soon.

Barnes knows that going out and getting Zack Kent as your only fall signee isn’t good enough. Missing completely in 2018 until May isn’t the path we need to take yearly. He knows that.