Reasons to dislike Pruitt

#76
#76
Enki_Amenra said:
OP has to be trolling. Jeremy Beldar-Pruitt was an awful coach and many have shared reasons why he's an awful person as well.

Reading through this thread I have seen a dozen or more valid reasons why JBP was a god awful coach. The only redeeming factor that may be misconstrued as valid is the fact he rallied an 8 win season after inexplicable losses to start the season.

He is quite possibly the worst head coach in all of college athletics over the past decade.
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Derek Dooley may be worse
 
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Border Vol said:
Derek Dooley may be worse
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It's a toss up based on overall records and on-field performance against traditional rivals. Dooley was more arrogant, but had better press conferences. Pruitt was more stubborn, and suffered two of the worse home field losses (Ga St and UK) in Tennessee football history. I would give the nod to Pruitt by the nose of the ball (following yet another completed slant against his defense).
 
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sjt18 said:
Fallacy of "they" and fallacy of false dichotomy. Judging him is a lot more complex than saying he's great or awful.

IMHO, he was and is a very good "teacher of the game". Some disagree but I think tackling and other "technique" things improved quite a bit.

I believe he underperformed the talent on his first team. He won 5 when 6 or more was reasonable. USCe, Mizzou, and Vandy were all very winnable games. He was blown out in two of them. Only speaking for myself his recover in '19 just got me back on the fence. I actually liked the guy's personality as much as we got to see it. But honestly his stubbornness on the QB position was more than many of us could take.

It was also becoming pretty obvious by that point that his defensive "system" didn't work so well without the kinds of athletes he had previously... and that he wasn't recruiting those kinds of athletes to UT.

Covid didn't kill the team... Pruitt's bad decisions and ultimately his inability to move from being a coordinator/position coach to HC. Some guys just aren't meant to be HC's. They don't have the ability to sense morale or the needs of the team. Pruitt is probably where Pruitt needs to be.... coaching guys on individual skills who are getting legally paid to play.

Well. If he makes manifestly stupid decisions concerning the QB position and underperforms his talent badly enough to lose to middling Group of 5 programs... not long.

Don't hate him now... and did not "love" him in 2019. You act as if what happened in 2019 is some kind of miracle. It wasn't. Every team UT beat starting with Mississippi State was less talented... and sometimes a lot less talented... and only close wins.

Blaming fans is good sport... but fans didn't make the call on the QB position. Fans didn't stubbornly stick with a style of play that didn't work. Fans didn't pay players. Fans didn't smother the team directly with negativity. That was all Pruitt.

Some of that is true. But you can still coach them hard if they trust you. That hasn't changed since the 80's when I played HSFB. My coach was the biggest jerk in the world. I didn't like him.... but in the end we knew we could trust him to do what was best for the team as a whole.

A coach doesn't have to be "nice". But they do have to instill trust and a belief/confidence in the team's ability to win. Pruitt never seemed to get past breaking people down. At some point the HC especially has to build guys back up so they believe they can do MORE than they probably really can.

Pruitt's teams quit on him in both the 1st and last year. That's a matter of trust, faith, confidence,....
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No he isn’t a good teacher of the game. So you are a defensive guy. You have made your career as a defensive mind. Yet you cannot get your defensive players to line up correctly in year 3?

Pruitt constantly brought up how little he had to work with. How he needed to find guys that will do it right. He obviously created division within the team. He went through a ton of assistants in his short term. It was reported he was difficult to get along with.

Pruitt was terrible and there is no other way to spin it.
 
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HollowaytoSeivers said:
Maybe someone will write a book documenting the Pruitt era, similar to Mark Nagi's Decade of Dysfunction. I would to know the backstory of the 2020 season, such as what happened at halftime of the Georgia game, since the team was never the same again.
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I would like to know what happened at halftime in the Georgia State game.
 
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UTNoFear said:
Infractions
3-7 Final Year

But then I look at the expectations after the 8 win 2019 season, and then he dealt with more covid cases than any school in the east, and have to ask... if we had a healthy team in 2020 what would the record have been? The infractions and cause was enough to fire him and I'm not an apologist by any means but say we won 7-8 games in 20 would the fans have jumped his back as they did? Apples and oranges but personally I liked CJP and as a former college player would have loved to have played for him but that's me. But the amount of hate the fans had for him amazed me. The man gave us an 8-5 season and the first 2 losses were hard to swallow that year but he righted the ship. If we would have won those two game.... 10-3. But yeah he couldn't coach say you.

I know my opinion will not be popular and I hope CJH will right the ship but it amazes me how this fan base went from lauding him to hating him. COVID19 killed his team. On another note the man didn't forget how to coach and for the arm chairs here that never played or coached CFB, why judge him the way you do.

I like CJH and hope he turns things around but I ask myself how long will this fan base give him before they turn their back on him the way they did Pruitt?

Funny, fan base LOVED him in 2019 but in 2020, hated his guts. Personally I think our fan base is our worse enemy........... FLAME AWAY!

On a side note, these kids these days are coddled and they can't take hard coaching and sulk when they are called out. Can't count the times I calmed my son down when he played CFB. When a coach coaches you hard he see's promise and demands the best from you. If you don't get coached up that means they don't care because you don't have it. Good grief, my DC didn't seem to know a name other than mine but I played every game.
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Yeah. I loved Pruitt prior to 2020. Sitting in the September heat watching the team get walked by Georgia State will always be one of my finest memories.
 
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Enki_Amenra said:
I'd like to know what happened in the weeks of preseason preparation before the GA ST game. He had more than month to prepare and pooped the bed.
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Cornbread was similar to Butch Jones that it didn't matter how long he had to get the team ready. The team would always be unprepared like the Georgia State and BYU games in 2019 and like the 2016 South Carolina and Vanderbilt games along with 2017 Georgia Tech game with Butch.
 
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He is ignorant and arrogant. To me that is the most annoying combination possible in a person.

To sum up: he didn't dun real gud, and I don know how much you know bout fuh-ball, but I'd rather look fah-wahd.
 
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HollowaytoSeivers said:
Maybe someone will write a book documenting the Pruitt era, similar to Mark Nagi's Decade of Dysfunction. I would to know the backstory of the 2020 season, such as what happened at halftime of the Georgia game, since the team was never the same again.
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I think the team quit on Cornbread at halftime of the Georgia game they had no more confidence in him.
 
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PlanetVolunteer said:
Well he decided to throw everything away by putting all his support behind you know who, with an outdated offense and cheated like a fool. He earned a lot of the hate.

I'm sympathetic to your argument. I don't hate him. I hate Butch Jones but I don't hate him.
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I dont hate either of them...but CBJ is a much better head coach and time will prove that ti be true.

CJP had zero idea how to manage a program to improve. He had been gifted talent at each of his stops and believed he was the reason they could run faster, jump higher and hit harder.

With regard to the OP dismissing Ga St. and BYU...why not play the what if game for every coach. And IMO, if those two games didnt prove how inept he was ...im not sure what would open ones eyes.
 
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UTNoFear said:
Infractions
3-7 Final Year

But then I look at the expectations after the 8 win 2019 season, and then he dealt with more covid cases than any school in the east, and have to ask... if we had a healthy team in 2020 what would the record have been? The infractions and cause was enough to fire him and I'm not an apologist by any means but say we won 7-8 games in 20 would the fans have jumped his back as they did? Apples and oranges but personally I liked CJP and as a former college player would have loved to have played for him but that's me. But the amount of hate the fans had for him amazed me. The man gave us an 8-5 season and the first 2 losses were hard to swallow that year but he righted the ship. If we would have won those two game.... 10-3. But yeah he couldn't coach say you.

I know my opinion will not be popular and I hope CJH will right the ship but it amazes me how this fan base went from lauding him to hating him. COVID19 killed his team. On another note the man didn't forget how to coach and for the arm chairs here that never played or coached CFB, why judge him the way you do.

I like CJH and hope he turns things around but I ask myself how long will this fan base give him before they turn their back on him the way they did Pruitt?

Funny, fan base LOVED him in 2019 but in 2020, hated his guts. Personally I think our fan base is our worse enemy........... FLAME AWAY!

On a side note, these kids these days are coddled and they can't take hard coaching and sulk when they are called out. Can't count the times I calmed my son down when he played CFB. When a coach coaches you hard he see's promise and demands the best from you. If you don't get coached up that means they don't care because you don't have it. Good grief, my DC didn't seem to know a name other than mine but I played every game.
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I’m torn he showed signs of doing the right things. Him persisting with JG is what turned me against him. Along with some of the truly embarrassing losses we’ve had under him. He showed glimpses of competency, 2019 Bama was crazy
 
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Sugaray13 said:
I think he knew how to be Saban. The problem is he didn't have Saban's talent, his coaching record, etc. You can't treat people the way he did when you are not winning and get by with it.
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I was stupid thinking Cornbread would be another Johnny Majors:rolleyes:
 
#100
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I don't know the guy, so I certainly have no reason to dislike him.

I severely disliked the way the program went under his direction.
 
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