Quality Class & OC Situation

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#102
I am not sure what people are seeing but our most glaring area of need was OL and this class is addressing that. Sign wright and we will have the number 1 or 2 OL class in the nation.

A second year in the same S&C program will really help and a few people leaving to other programs will also be helpful. A couple of grad transfers on the OL and DL would be gravy.

I think we will see a big improvement on how physical this team is. Last year at the end I felt they were soft.

With all my kool-aid drinking, I do believe that Getting the right OC will make or break Pruitt. He can’t whiff on this hire. I am not going to say I know who this is, but this hire will determine our season IMO.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
No. Why? Because its not finished. We have no clue how we are going to finish. But from the looks of it, it seems our per recruit average is higher than usual.
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Your just beating your head against the wall arguing with some people on here, they have made up their mind and there's no changing it.
 
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TnAngler said:
It seems like CJP and his staff have put together a solid class however, does it matter if we settle for an OC? Not saying that we will not make a great hire at OC, just hoping the talent we picked up doesn’t go uncoached. I reflect back on the talent Dooley had and the inability to get them trained up. We all remember he Jones debacle all too well. Thoughts?
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Regardless of who we get on OC; Pruitt is addressing players that this teams need. Butch just went for the high profile guys who were mostly legacies commits.
 
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SayNoToJorts said:
Saban lost to a much less talented UL Monroe team his first season. I'm not anointing CJP but let's give the guy some time to develop his own players before blasting his coaching ability
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Also factor in that Saban was a national championship winning coach before he got to Alabama with stops at Michigan State, LSU and the NFL. Vastly different than Pruitt.
 
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SayNoToJorts said:
Saban lost to a much less talented UL Monroe team his first season. I'm not anointing CJP but let's give the guy some time to develop his own players before blasting his coaching ability
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I dont blast his football coaching abilities. I question his ability to motivate and scheme a less talented team to overcome a more talented team. Its not his fault, he has had superior talent on all his teams. Hope he figures that part out or he will have a rough stop at Tennessee.
As far as sabans first year, I looked for a game where he got.blown out and couldnt find one, could you help me?
 
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volfannbama said:
I dont blast his football coaching abilities. I question his ability to motivate and scheme a less talented team to overcome a more talented team. Its not his fault, he has had superior talent on all his teams. Hope he figures that part out or he will have a rough stop at Tennessee.
As far as sabans first year, I looked for a game where he got.blown out and couldnt find one, could you help me?
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To your first point, CJP had 2 wins over superior ranked opponents.

Saban's loss to UL Monroe was a worse loss than UT's to Vandy this year. I don't care what the comparative score was.
 
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Behr said:
What are we talking about, recruiting or on field results? We are still talking about football aren't we? If not, trade out on court results for on field.

No sugarcoating, I WANT THE TRUTH!
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Maybe “YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH!”, sorry Behr, couldn’t resist amongst all the multiple question and explanation points being used by some to make sure their point is taken seriously.
 
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JazzMaster001 said:
We're never going to out talent the likes of Bama, UGA, or Florida. The absolute best we can hope for is that we'll be relatively close to them or even talent wise. So we're going to need good solid coaching to finally start beating them.
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A great ol and very good qb, will go a long ways. When Ole Miss beat Bama 2 years in a row. Ole miss did not have better talent. They had a good qb, and ol gave him time to throw and they racked up points.
 
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volfannbama said:
OCs are not overrated....


On a serious note, id love to get the opinions from those that agreed with Pruitt using lack of talent as an excuse for poor performance last season. This class is currently ranking close to or worst than 3 of the last four. 2018 being the exception. It also ranks in the bottom tier of the sec. So how them to we come to the conclusion that things will improve?
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I'm pretty sure Pruitt knows, better than anybody, the types of players we need since he knows the talent level of Bama's recent championship teams. You don't work with those guys every day and not know who you need and the skill sets. First, he's got to get the caliber of guys he can then let his coaches develop that talent. I wouldn't expect miracles next year but I would expect a well-disciplined team and an offensive line that can keep the QB off his back every other play. Give the guy a chance! Don't forget he's recruiting against all those other SEC and other college coaches for recruits. I'm not making excuses for him but I would say get off his back and let the man do his job.
 
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SayNoToJorts said:
To your first point, CJP had 2 wins over superior ranked opponents.

Saban's loss to UL Monroe was a worse loss than UT's to Vandy this year. I don't care what the comparative score was.
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Pruitt has no where near the equity saban had coming in. CJP team performed well in 2 of 11 games, not good odds. The proof will be next year. Generally good coaches show vast improvement in year two. It may not necessary translates to a huge amount of wins but if the team looks remotely close to an unorganized mess like they did this year.....it's gonna be a long road.
 
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chuck0303 said:
I'm pretty sure Pruitt knows, better than anybody, the types of players we need since he knows the talent level of Bama's recent championship teams. You don't work with those guys every day and not know who you need and the skill sets. First, he's got to get the caliber of guys he can then let his coaches develop that talent. I wouldn't expect miracles next year but I would expect a well-disciplined team and an offensive line that can keep the QB off his back every other play. Give the guy a chance! Don't forget he's recruiting against all those other SEC and other college coaches for recruits. I'm not making excuses for him but I would say get off his back and let the man do his job.
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I dont see how me posting an opinion on a talk forum in anyway impedes him from doing his job.
 
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volfannbama said:
Pruitt has no where near the equity saban had coming in. CJP team performed well in 2 of 11 games, not good odds. The proof will be next year. Generally good coaches show vast improvement in year two. It may not necessary translates to a huge amount of wins but if the team looks remotely close to an unorganized mess like they did this year.....it's gonna be a long road.
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Saban had more equity sure, but it's not like Pruitt crawled out of a gutter and learned to coach football last August. Guy has had great success and won rings as a DC at multiple schools. Not easy to do. What other coaches have 2 rings as coordinators from different schools? Any?

Either way we were originally talking about this years class vs our opponents' classes, and UT falling behind. If we are going strictly on current class ranking equaling wins over lesser ranked opponents, Pruitt goes 8-3 next year with a win over the Gators. I'll take it
 
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When does this 5* announce....I want him
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volfannbama said:
OCs are not overrated....


On a serious note, id love to get the opinions from those that agreed with Pruitt using lack of talent as an excuse for poor performance last season. This class is currently ranking close to or worst than 3 of the last four. 2018 being the exception. It also ranks in the bottom tier of the sec. So how them to we come to the conclusion that things will improve?
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It's in the trenches bruh.... and it's why they won't be a lot better next year..... this is going to take some time
 
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I appreciate that. You are the first and quite likely the only person that will agree with me on anything today.
 
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volfannbama said:
OCs are not overrated....


On a serious note, id love to get the opinions from those that agreed with Pruitt using lack of talent as an excuse for poor performance last season. This class is currently ranking close to or worst than 3 of the last four. 2018 being the exception. It also ranks in the bottom tier of the sec. So how them to we come to the conclusion that things will improve?
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Proper player development. It’s what was completely missing for the Lyle years.
I know many are upset with how the season played out, but those that know football could see that the players were getting better. Well those that bought in. Sadly there were also those players that are just riding out the rest of their scholarship and have no interest in buying into the new way of doing things and that will keep us dragging the bottom no matter how much the rest of the players improve
 
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Carl Pickens said:
It's in the trenches bruh.... and it's why they won't be a lot better next year..... this is going to take some time
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Why can I only like this once?! This will take time. You can’t expect freshmen and sophomore linemen to block grown ass men that are SEC caliber athletes that have been in consistent S&C and nutrition programs for 3,4 or even 5 years. Not to mention the experience difference. The team should get better each year. I don’t see them being true contenders before year 4 or 5. They not only need big, talented, conditioned and experienced starters, the two deep can’t be much of a drop off in the SEC. That will take time. That’s the best case scenario that I see and that’s assuming CJP and company can get it done. I happen to believe they can. JMO
 
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SayNoToJorts said:
Saban had more equity sure, but it's not like Pruitt crawled out of a gutter and learned to coach football last August. Guy has had great success and won rings as a DC at multiple schools. Not easy to do. What other coaches have 2 rings as coordinators from different schools? Any?

Either way we were originally talking about this years class vs our opponents' classes, and UT falling behind. If we are going strictly on current class ranking equaling wins over lesser ranked opponents, Pruitt goes 8-3 next year with a win over the Gators. I'll take it
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Ill believe that record when I see it.
 
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vol1950 said:
A great ol and very good qb, will go a long ways. When Ole Miss beat Bama 2 years in a row. Ole miss did not have better talent. They had a good qb, and ol gave him time to throw and they racked up points.
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I seem to remember a lot of people on here thinking their coach had something to do with it too...
 
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