Qb2

[ABINGDON VOL FAN]

I didn't watch their game, but I heard Bryce didn't look anywhere near ready.

I saw one play at Safety where he seemed a little lost. He let a receiver go right by him for a long completion.

 

[Proud Army Wife]

Was Harrison Bailey at the game on Saturday? I didn’t see him.

According to the Vols 247, all 4 qb's traveled.

 

[DustyRockSolid]

Can I work where you do? Any openings ?

I'm pretty lucky in terms of being able to sit on the internet all day while at work.

 

[sjt18]

JG is a lot of things. Fragile is not one of them.
He's the QB this year, hate all y'all want.

But to answer the question: Shrout is qb2

You did watch last season, right? JG's position was more solid then than now. There was no experience at all behind him. The staff had invested the entire off-season building his confidence and coaching him up. They replaced him for poor performance 4 games into the season with a true Fr who was not ready to play.

If he continues to miss the throws he missed vs USCe then he's going to hold the O back. Some of the short and mid-range completions he had will be more tightly covered and defended by better D's. What he did Saturday is not good enough to get UT to 5 wins.

 

[PulaskiVolFan]

You did watch last season, right? JG's position was more solid then than now. There was no experience at all behind him. The staff had invested the entire off-season building his confidence and coaching him up. They replaced him for poor performance 4 games into the season with a true Fr who was not ready to play.

If he continues to miss the throws he missed vs USCe then he's going to hold the O back. Some of the short and mid-range completions he had will be more tightly covered and defended by better D's. What he did Saturday is not good enough to get UT to 5 wins.

So are you predicting 5 wins only for this team or just hammering on our QB1?

 

[sjt18]

So are you predicting 5 wins only for this team or just hammering on our QB1?

I am predicting less than 5 wins without better QB play than we saw Saturday regardless of who "QB1" is. You cannot miss that many open receivers. You cannot complete 14% on 3rd down. You will not get away with many of those passes vs better coverage D's and DB's.

If that is truly the best that JG and UT have to offer... then I do not expect to see 5 wins this season.

 

[ETCvol4life]

I know I will get roasted and toasted for this but here goes! I know JG is hated by all on here and I know he is not likely to win a NC or any major awards but if you had been told before the game that he would throw for 200 plus yards with a TD and a rushing TD with no interceptions would you have complained or would you have said hell yes I'll take it? He did miss some throws but every game I watched Saturday had some easy throws missed by the other QB's on other teams. I think everyone is just so set on wanting JG out that it would not matter how well he does he will still not be good enough. I know he missed some easy throws but some of the other misses where just as much WR fault as his and its not that they where bad it is just hard to have timing down with everything that has happened during camp. So I would just like for Vol nation to just once try being supportive instead of automatic hate just because of who it is. Now go ahead and let me have it for not being a nega vol !!!!!!

 

[BigBadVol]

I want to see JT get a shot. Mature, a team player and I haven’t heard one complaint about or from him. Apparently has an incredible arm and is very accurate. With our run game developing, a good passer may be all TN needs to become an really good offense.

 

[utvols74]

I know I will get roasted and toasted for this but here goes! I know JG is hated by all on here and I know he is not likely to win a NC or any major awards but if you had been told before the game that he would throw for 200 plus yards with a TD and a rushing TD with no interceptions would you have complained or would you have said hell yes I'll take it? He did miss some throws but every game I watched Saturday had some easy throws missed by the other QB's on other teams. I think everyone is just so set on wanting JG out that it would not matter how well he does he will still not be good enough. I know he missed some easy throws but some of the other misses where just as much WR fault as his and its not that they where bad it is just hard to have timing down with everything that has happened during camp. So I would just like for Vol nation to just once try being supportive instead of automatic hate just because of who it is. Now go ahead and let me have it for not being a nega vol !!!!!!

I'm not a fan of his, but here are some stats. He's in top-10 in several areas. He truly needs more 300-yard/3 TD games to elevate his record/UT fan perception/UT W/L record in 2020.

 

[TennesseeTarheel]

It’s me. I’m QB2.

Your turn to buy team pizza.

 

[PulaskiVolFan]

I am predicting less than 5 wins without better QB play than we saw Saturday regardless of who "QB1" is. You cannot miss that many open receivers. You cannot complete 14% on 3rd down. You will not get away with many of those passes vs better coverage D's and DB's.

If that is truly the best that JG and UT have to offer... then I do not expect to see 5 wins this season.

We're fixing to be 2-0 regardless of how JG plays Saturday I believe. You thinking this team goes 2-6 the rest of the way is a joke. I don't think we'd go 2-6 our last 8 with anyone on the roster playing QB and I for sure don't think we go just 3-6 the last 9 if our QB goes 9/31 for 260 with 2 total TDs and ZERO turnovers. PFF graded it as an above average start and we've won 7 in a row with pretty much that exact type performance other than maybe Indiana and Vandy. He's an above avg QB, he's top half of our conference and he has made several winning plays the last 7 football games.

 

[sjt18]

We're fixing to be 2-0 regardless of how JG plays Saturday I believe. You thinking this team goes 2-6 the rest of the way is a joke. I don't think we'd go 2-6 our last 8 with anyone on the roster playing QB and I for sure don't think we go just 3-6 the last 9 if our QB goes 9/31 for 260 with 2 total TDs and ZERO turnovers. PFF graded it as an above average start and we've won 7 in a row with pretty much that exact type performance other than maybe Indiana and Vandy. He's an above avg QB, he's top half of our conference and he has made several winning plays the last 7 football games.

You are delusional if you think that "accuracy" will be effective against a "good" SEC secondary. UT will play teams that can cover the WR's MUCH better than USCe did.

That level of passing won't beat Bama, UGA, UF, TAM, or Auburn. That makes UK the "bubble game"... and their secondary is better than USCe's. Vandy's secondary may be better than USCe's based on their performance vs TAM.

Neither UT's run game or D played well enough to compensate. The run game was about as much of a disappointment as JG's misses and ineffectiveness.

 

[SaintLouisVol]

Since JG is obviously the coaches best option to win, and the QB roster probably not adding any new players through recruiting, why wouldn’t JG return next year and be the starter. One of the 3 current back ups can be #2 and the others may transfer. Surely if JG is the best option and he can get more experience and more maturity by his 6th year, who could beat him out? Or is he the luckiest player in the world and circumstances just keep allowing him to be the healthiest and only reasonable option they have For over 5 years.

I am not even sure he would be offered the opportunity to play next year. While this year doesn't count in terms of eligibility, the NCAA hasn't addressed how this fact will impact scholarship limits. etc. While there will be many players across college football who want to play another year, coaches may have to make some difficult decisions about who will be given the opportunity.

 

[Tnphil]

I am not even sure he would be offered the opportunity to play next year. While this year doesn't count in terms of eligibility, the NCAA hasn't addressed how this fact will impact scholarship limits. etc. While there will be many players across college football who want to play another year, coaches may have to make some difficult decisions about who will be given the opportunity.

Agree...That's what will be interesting going into next year on how that's handled.

 

[LittleVol]

2nd part of the question, " what style offense will there be with QB2"?- It will be the same.
The playbook won't be scaled back.
Maurer has wheels, but they're flat right now, soooo no qb runs or read option. Just playing QN from the pocket (best way).
Same for Shrout or Bailey. All 4 QBs can make any throw. If Harrison Bailey gets in and leads the team to TD. He will get the next drive. Same for whoever else. They'll keep them in if you can see that option is the best to grow. I think all 4 QBs play on Saturday.

 

[1vol8]

I know I will get roasted and toasted for this but here goes! I know JG is hated by all on here and I know he is not likely to win a NC or any major awards but if you had been told before the game that he would throw for 200 plus yards with a TD and a rushing TD with no interceptions would you have complained or would you have said hell yes I'll take it? He did miss some throws but every game I watched Saturday had some easy throws missed by the other QB's on other teams. I think everyone is just so set on wanting JG out that it would not matter how well he does he will still not be good enough. I know he missed some easy throws but some of the other misses where just as much WR fault as his and its not that they where bad it is just hard to have timing down with everything that has happened during camp. So I would just like for Vol nation to just once try being supportive instead of automatic hate just because of who it is. Now go ahead and let me have it for not being a nega vol !!!!!!

I’m sure everyone would’ve said “hell yeah! I’ll take it!”. However you’re leaving out the most important part to the question which is the overall problem that people are upset about. If you included in that question that “he’d only complete 1 third down conversion out of 10”......... I feel confident that most of VN is smart enough to realize you lose that game 9 times out of 10 and we nearly lost this one as a result without a defensive score. So the answer would change to “ Hell no! Give me the other guy!”.

 

[VOL_Lyfe]

Huge difference between reading a stat sheet and actually watching someone play.

 

[Pepe]

JG in 21.
You heard it first here!!!!

Seems I've heard that quite a few times before

 

[1974Vol]

Not thread worthy but I'm bored at work. I'm curious at to who people think will get the first shot at QB if JG gets injured or benched. Maybe someone like DeerPark can give an informed opinion.
Also....what will the offense look like with the qb2 you think they play?

Shrout by default - staff have complimented him on progress - still unlikely to see meaningful playing time
Mauer - injured and injury prone - missed time for Quarantine - way behind
Bailey - Missed spring and most of fall camp - basically still a HS QB

Unless JG is injured or we are way ahead or behind late in the game, JG will take every meaningful snap until the other guys get tons more reps, get well, and show the staff something. My guess would be we don't see anyone but JG for a meaningful snap until Arkansas when they get 2 full weeks to game prep someone else. Then it will be more about seeing who is next up for 2021 than prepping a JG replacement. The season will rise or fall based on the 5th Year Seniors play.

 

[whodeycin85]

Shrout by default - staff have complimented him on progress - still unlikely to see meaningful playing time
Mauer - injured and injury prone - missed time for Quarantine - way behind
Bailey - Missed spring and most of fall camp - basically still a HS QB

Unless JG is injured or we are way ahead or behind late in the game, JG will take every meaningful snap until the other guys get tons more reps, get well, and show the staff something. My guess would be we don't see anyone but JG for a meaningful snap until Arkansas when they get 2 full weeks to game prep someone else. Then it will be more about seeing who is next up for 2021 than prepping a JG replacement. The season will rise or fall based on the 5th Year Seniors play.

When was Maurer in quarantine...i knew he had a hamstring issue....

 

[MiramarVol]

You are delusional if you think that "accuracy" will be effective against a "good" SEC secondary. UT will play teams that can cover the WR's MUCH better than USCe did.

That level of passing won't beat Bama, UGA, UF, TAM, or Auburn. That makes UK the "bubble game"... and their secondary is better than USCe's. Vandy's secondary may be better than USCe's based on their performance vs TAM.

Neither UT's run game or D played well enough to compensate. The run game was about as much of a disappointment as JG's misses and ineffectiveness.

He beat Auburn on the road. And will do it again this year. Say what you want, we'll be right in the thick of it with those teams you mentioned.

 

[ETCvol4life]

I’m sure everyone would’ve said “hell yeah! I’ll take it!”. However you’re leaving out the most important part to the question which is the overall problem that people are upset about. If you included in that question that “he’d only complete 1 third down conversion out of 10”......... I feel confident that most of VN is smart enough to realize you lose that game 9 times out of 10 and we nearly lost this one as a result without a defensive score. So the answer would change to “ Hell no! Give me the other guy!”.

Yes you are correct on that and I did leave it out on purpose as it would skew the response I was looking for but it is still my point that yes it was bad and yes we need better but it is what we have nd we need to support him and not kick him every chance we get. I just think that it does no good to be negative all the time. As bad as it was it could have been worse and until we get the super star next Manning in the house lets be thankful for the win and the good part of the game. But thats just me, I prefer to look for the good and not beat myself up over the bad.

 

[miket4god]

You are delusional if you think that "accuracy" will be effective against a "good" SEC secondary. UT will play teams that can cover the WR's MUCH better than USCe did.

That level of passing won't beat Bama, UGA, UF, TAM, or Auburn. That makes UK the "bubble game"... and their secondary is better than USCe's. Vandy's secondary may be better than USCe's based on their performance vs TAM.

Neither UT's run game or D played well enough to compensate. The run game was about as much of a disappointment as JG's misses and ineffectiveness.

Really? the running backs carried 25 times for 126 yards, a little over 5 yards a carry. I thought they looked pretty good. If anything didn't get enough carries. No where near as disappointing as a 5th yr SR QB overthrowing wide open receivers.

 

[1vol8]

Yes you are correct on that and I did leave it out on purpose as it would skew the response I was looking for but it is still my point that yes it was bad and yes we need better but it is what we have nd we need to support him and not kick him every chance we get. I just think that it does no good to be negative all the time. As bad as it was it could have been worse and until we get the super star next Manning in the house lets be thankful for the win and the good part of the game. But thats just me, I prefer to look for the good and not beat myself up over the bad.

I agree with you. I try not to pile on JG but some posters bring it out of me when they hypocritically attack the younger players for the same things or drive a false narrative.

Imo when I think about it, overall the problem isn’t “JG at qb”. It’s the “choice” of JG at all costs that have people upset. So it’s the staff. JG has issues that he’s had plenty of time to improve upon. No one can deny that. In fact he’s had more time than any other QB I’ve EVER seen at any level. Every qb has issues But certain weaknesses in a qb can’t be coached around such as accuracy and mental blocks. We KNOW he has accuracy problems but it seems it’s accompanied by a game day mental block as well. That’s not his fault. That’s on the staffs that keep putting him out there with three previous years of evidence that he’s unlikely to improve. I think IF he can get past himself.... he can be a very good qb. But if it were my team, I’d be lying if I told you I wouldn’t be in year 2 of his predecessor.

 

[sjt18]

Really? the running backs carried 25 times for 126 yards, a little over 5 yards a carry. I thought they looked pretty good. If anything didn't get enough carries. No where near as disappointing as a 5th yr SR QB overthrowing wide open receivers.

I think the overthrows if completed turn that game into a laugher... and if UT had run the ball for more than 10 yards in the 1st half... I think USCe's D would have folded in the 2nd half. UT has 11 rushes for 10 yards in the 1st half. The OL couldn't get push against their small DL's.

I think Chandler ran well and ran kind of angry in the 2nd half. I have always been concerned about Gray's ability to break tackles. It just doesn't seem to take much to get him down.