Q Dormady officially named backup. What you expected?

[VOLINVONORE]

Dormady's father who was also his high school head coach changed his offense to the Butch Jones spread offense. Dormady is a lot more athletic than some people think. He rushed for 5 tds 261 yards as a "Pro-Style"QB. If Dobbs goes down he doesn't have to rush for 100 yds a game. he just has to keep the opposing defense on it toes and honest.

I would like to see Dormady get some action, other than mop-up, in the BG game. I think our QB problems are over and we will sign very good QBs each year for a number of years. I am not saying I want a two QB system, but do believe that getting experience during tough games for at least two QBs is important. We never know when the injury bug hits that position and that it is especially important when the backups are freshmen.

 

[VFL-82-JP]

I would like to see Dormady get some action, other than mop-up, in the BG game. I think our QB problems are over and we will sign very good QBs each year for a number of years. I am not saying I want a two QB system, but do believe that getting experience during tough games for at least two QBs is important. We never know when the injury bug hits that position and that it is especially important when the backups are freshmen.

Assuming we can lock that game down by halftime, I'd look to the second half as a glorified scrimmage, chance to shake out parts of the second team and see how they flow. Not so much mop-up (run the clock out, only safe plays, ball control) ... but game-speed/game-condition practice reps.

 

[Catbone]

Assuming we can lock that game down by halftime, I'd look to the second half as a glorified scrimmage, chance to shake out parts of the second team and see how they flow. Not so much mop-up (run the clock out, only safe plays, ball control) ... but game-speed/game-condition practice reps.

At the same time, with OU the next week, you'd also like to see Dobbs get as comfortable as possible back there.

 

[vavolfan6]

Please explain why you believe Dormady (no "n") is a better decision maker than Dobbs.

Also, you think there's a gap in how good these qbs are and Dormady (no "n") is the one with the edge/who's the better qb at this point?....but Dobbs runs better so he gets the nod? Is that about right?

Maybe I have cone too quickly to a conclusion from one practice, but it was clear from the open practice. Dormady was placing throws exactly where they needed to be to give his receivers the best opportunity to make the catch. Also, Dormandy seemed to have a great abikity of scanning the field and picking the best option.

From my experience of watching Dobbs he occasionally will lock on a player or tuck the ball and run earlier than he needed too.

All this to say, I dont think Dobbs is a bad qb. I actually think he is a really good one. It is just when I watched Dormandy i was highly impressed.Yes, I think Dormandy is a better passer, but not by a whole lot. Dobbs experience and running ability still makes him a better option

 

[lexkyvol]

Once i say dormady throw.....1st thing in my head was S. Jones was dumb as hell for coming to Tennessee because he will be sitting for a while

 

[johnrlansford]

Once i say dormady throw.....1st thing in my head was S. Jones was dumb as hell for coming to Tennessee because he will be sitting for a while

That's funny have you seen S. Jones throw? He's not bad passer at all, actually they said he has a quicker release than Dormady. But Dormady is the more polished passer as of now. And Guarantano (Spelling) is a beast and probably going to be a 5 star QB before his senior season is over.

I am gonna feel really sorry for all of the people who are crowning a kid who has never taken a snap in College Football game the Savior of the QB position. I remember some similar threads and remarks made about R. Ferguson a few years ago and where is he now? Not even playing football at the D1 level.

Quinton may be a great QB someday, but come on why can't we be happy with the great QB we have now. Josh Dobbs is our QB, Quinton Dormady may never take a snap here (hypothetically speaking) and we are already crowning him king.

I am just saying Nathan Peterman was a good Practicing QB but he fell apart in the games, let's just let this kid have a few snaps before we claim he's the man. The most popular person on the football team is always the Back up QB. Let's give this kid a chance to develop and learn the system before he is winning us National Championships in your heads. Josh Dobbs is our QB lets enjoy his career before we boot him for an unproven, true freshman that hasn't taken a snap in a game yet.

 

[johnrlansford]

Assuming we can lock that game down by halftime, I'd look to the second half as a glorified scrimmage, chance to shake out parts of the second team and see how they flow. Not so much mop-up (run the clock out, only safe plays, ball control) ... but game-speed/game-condition practice reps.

While I don't disagree with you I don't believe that Butch will do it because he doens't want a QB contraversy. If Dormady comes in a plays well it would cause too much contraversy around the position. you would have people on here saying that Dormady should be the starter. It is Bowling Green not Oklahoma or even vandy or Kentucky people will blow him up as the next Peyton Manning and then it will be a distraction to the team.

I don't believe that Butch wants a Contraversy at QB unless he truely believes that Dobbs can't deliver (which I do not believe is the case). Dormady will get an opportunity or 2 if Dobbs gets injured but don't think that Butch will allow there to be a doubt who the starting QB is after the horrible QB play he has gotten the last 2 years with the #2 guys. He finally has a clear cut #1 QB and I believe barring an injury or just horrible play by Dobbs it will stay that way for the next 2 years.

 

[johnrlansford]

Sorry John!

No Conspiracy just going off Butch's Track Record Check his Stats. It almost cost us a bowl last year, hope he's learned his lesson. "Play the best player no matter what"

 

[Darth_Shiveman]

While I don't disagree with you I don't believe that Butch will do it because he doens't want a QB contraversy. If Dormady comes in a plays well it would cause too much contraversy around the position. you would have people on here saying that Dormady should be the starter. It is Bowling Green not Oklahoma or even vandy or Kentucky people will blow him up as the next Peyton Manning and then it will be a distraction to the team.

I don't believe that Butch wants a Contraversy at QB unless he truely believes that Dobbs can't deliver (which I do not believe is the case). Dormady will get an opportunity or 2 if Dobbs gets injured but don't think that Butch will allow there to be a doubt who the starting QB is after the horrible QB play he has gotten the last 2 years with the #2 guys. He finally has a clear cut #1 QB and I believe barring an injury or just horrible play by Dobbs it will stay that way for the next 2 years.

Even if Dormady is 21/21 for 400 yards and 6 TDs, there is no way we will have a QB contraversy.

 

[KBVol]

Maybe I have cone too quickly to a conclusion from one practice, but it was clear from the open practice. Dormady was placing throws exactly where they needed to be to give his receivers the best opportunity to make the catch. Also, Dormandy seemed to have a great abikity of scanning the field and picking the best option.

From my experience of watching Dobbs he occasionally will lock on a player or tuck the ball and run earlier than he needed too.

All this to say, I dont think Dobbs is a bad qb. I actually think he is a really good one. It is just when I watched Dormandy i was highly impressed.Yes, I think Dormandy is a better passer, but not by a whole lot. Dobbs experience and running ability still makes him a better option

Couldn't disagree more. I was at the open practice and didn't see that Dormady placed his passes any better than Dobbs at all. They both looked very good and very accurate throwing short and intermediate passes and both were largely inaccurate throwing deep balls.

As far as decision-making, none of us have remotely seen enough of QD to evaluate or comment on his decision making. If anything, I could be very critical of his decision-making in the Orange and White game...threw one ball that should've resulted in a pick 6, threw another one that nearly got his WR killed, finished only 5-12 throwing. Now, I wasn't critical because he was a true freshman who had been on campus for 4 months and he also made some good throws and plays as well. But the jury is still very much out on Dormady's "decision-making" since we really haven't seen him make any decisions yet. By contrast, I'll take the junior qb who has some skins on the wall, and has proven that he can make decisions under fire vs SEC teams and walk away with some very impressive numbers and some wins.

 

[WillisWG]

Once i say dormady throw.....1st thing in my head was S. Jones was dumb as hell for coming to Tennessee because he will be sitting for a while

If you like Dobbs then you should like Jones. He has the same skill sets as Dobbs but has a better arm. It would have been a different battle for #2 if SJ had been an EE too.

Competition for the job next year will be very interesting.

 

[1SmokinVol]

When the lights have been on, Dobbs has proven he can handle the pressure and lead his team back. He's proven he can manage a game and lead the team on the field. He's proven he can run, extend plays, and give DC's a significant problem to solve running the ball. He's proven he can fairly consistently hit shorter and intermediate throws. He's proven he can win.

What he hasn't proven that is necessary for both him and UT's O to take it to the next level is the ability to throw the ball down field accurately leading WR's.

THIS- Dobbs MUST have some consistency with the deep ball. That is the only thing that concerns me with him.

 

[shmohawk]

One of the freshmen will be redshirted, and that'll be Jones since he's 3rd string, barring any unforeseen circumstances . By the time 2017 rolls around, I'm guessing the QB competition will look like this.

Dormady: Jr
Jones: RS So
Guarantano: RS Fr

If Dormady remains above Jones on the depth chart and Guarantano remains solid, I doubt Jones sticks around. If Jones rises above Dormady, Dormady is probably gone. This is not an indictment on Jones or Dormady specifically, but instead seems to simply be the nature of this generation of recruits. Since Jones is from the west coast, he's probably the most likely to leave.

 

[KBVol]

If you like Dobbs then you should like Jones. He has the same skill sets as Dobbs but has a better arm. It would have been a different battle for #2 if SJ had been an EE too.

Competition for the job next year will be very interesting.

Jones doesn't have a better arm than Dobbs. He just doesn't, not from what I saw Saturday night.

Jones is very athletic, looks fantastic in his own right, has a good live arm, throws a very nice ball. But unless he was holding back on Saturday, which is highly doubtful, he neither had more zip nor did he throw a ball further/deeper/longer. As a matter of fact, as the qbs kept backing up to see who could hit the goalpost crossbar, it was Dobbs who went back further (60-62 yds) than the others and then d threw it further than the other 4 (QD, Jones, Jancek and Pig).

 

[butchna]

If Dormady remains above Jones on the depth chart and Guarantano remains solid, I doubt Jones sticks around. If Jones rises above Dormady, Dormady is probably gone. This is not an indictment on Jones or Dormady specifically, but instead seems to simply be the nature of this generation of recruits. Since Jones is from the west coast, he's probably the most likely to leave.

We finally have good timing on this situation...maybe first time ever? Try to remember when we had a returning starter with this much promise, AND :victory: true freshmen studs who committed and signed with full knowledge of said returning starter. Neither one should feel the need to flee until the conclusion of the backup competition NEXT YEAR (at the earliest). Possibility that competitive juices won't cede that spot on the roster even with another stud (JG) arriving. Possibility of Johnson then Lawrence the next two years with NO EXPECTATIONS of immediately starting. It's dumbfounding. Throughout our modern QB history trek, we've never had this much potential QB talent lined up in succession. Tony Robinson begat Jeff Francis...Francis begat Andy Kelly...Kelly begat Heath Shuler...Shuler begat Peyton...Peyton begat Tee...Tee-Casey Clausen-Ainge...previous big mess-Dobbs. There were numerous talented QBs that competed for the starting spot, but when bested most left for opportunities elsewhere. Lot of words to ask this. Great programs attract recruits to positions that are already stocked...Bama with RBs...USC with QBs...et al. Is this a marker for potentially never before seen success? Key word "potentially"
Still gotta play. :wink2:

 

[butchna]

Jones doesn't have a better arm than Dobbs. He just doesn't, not from what I saw Saturday night.

Jones is very athletic, looks fantastic in his own right, has a good live arm, throws a very nice ball. But unless he was holding back on Saturday, which is highly doubtful, he neither had more zip nor did he throw a ball further/deeper/longer. As a matter of fact, as the qbs kept backing up to see who could hit the goalpost crossbar, it was Dobbs who went back further (60-62 yds) than the others and then d threw it further than the other 4 (QD, Jones, Jancek and Pig).

But? He said it with such?...Confidence? :huh:

 

[WillisWG]

Jones doesn't have a better arm than Dobbs. He just doesn't, not from what I saw Saturday night.

Jones is very athletic, looks fantastic in his own right, has a good live arm, throws a very nice ball. But unless he was holding back on Saturday, which is highly doubtful, he neither had more zip nor did he throw a ball further/deeper/longer. As a matter of fact, as the qbs kept backing up to see who could hit the goalpost crossbar, it was Dobbs who went back further (60-62 yds) than the others and then d threw it further than the other 4 (QD, Jones, Jancek and Pig).

should have said than Dobbs as a FR.

 

[amavol2]

In my opinion, (Johnny Majors quote) if Dobbs stays healthy, Jones will redshirt.

 

[DaddyChad]

Bama got the best QB recruit on signing day in Blake Barnett. Saban doesn't start freshman unless they are insanely good

Bama signed Josh Rosen? Because he was the best QB recruit last cycle. I would take Dormady over any QB last cycle except Rosen. Barnett is a twig right now, he physically isn't ready to start. I'll stand behind what I said Dormady would be the starter in Tuscaloosa if he had signed with Saban.

 

[DaddyChad]

While I don't disagree with you I don't believe that Butch will do it because he doens't want a QB contraversy. If Dormady comes in a plays well it would cause too much contraversy around the position. you would have people on here saying that Dormady should be the starter. It is Bowling Green not Oklahoma or even vandy or Kentucky people will blow him up as the next Peyton Manning and then it will be a distraction to the team.

I don't believe that Butch wants a Contraversy at QB unless he truely believes that Dobbs can't deliver (which I do not believe is the case). Dormady will get an opportunity or 2 if Dobbs gets injured but don't think that Butch will allow there to be a doubt who the starting QB is after the horrible QB play he has gotten the last 2 years with the #2 guys. He finally has a clear cut #1 QB and I believe barring an injury or just horrible play by Dobbs it will stay that way for the next 2 years.

QD better get some snaps in games. QB controversy or not we need a prepared backup for when the schedule gets tough, especially with this Oline.

 

[johnrlansford]

Even if Dormady is 21/21 for 400 yards and 6 TDs, there is no way we will have a QB contraversy.

wont happen for one....butch wont allow that at all he won't throw 10 times if that.

 

[johnrlansford]

QD better get some snaps in games. QB controversy or not we need a prepared backup for when the schedule gets tough, especially with this Oline.

I Agree but I dont believe it will be any significant snaps for development. I would think maybe most of the 4th quarter for QD, but no where near turning him loose in the offense mostly clock killing and mop up. We need Dobbs running on all cylinders going into Oklahoma. He'll probably play most of the game to get everything ready for week 2.

 

[vol445]

On when volnation starts the dormady for qb thread? I say week two 1/3 of the nation and if things go bad after 4 weeks half of vn will. However, I would suggest a block of that thread I think he will start at some point dobbs as good as he is at not getting hit, making it through a whole sec season is unlikely the way dobbs balls out. At least missing one game.

 

[Coach_Z]

On when volnation starts the dormady for qb thread? I say week two 1/3 of the nation and if things go bad after 4 weeks half. However, I would suggest a block of that thread I think he will start at some point dobbs as good as he is at not getting hit, making it through a whole sec season is unlikely the way dobbs balls out. Maybe we could start a competition. Name the game and quarter get 50 points on game of the week.

Huh?

 

[KBVol]

On when volnation starts the dormady for qb thread? I say week two 1/3 of the nation and if things go bad after 4 weeks half. However, I would suggest a block of that thread I think he will start at some point dobbs as good as he is at not getting hit, making it through a whole sec season is unlikely the way dobbs balls out. Maybe we could start a competition. Name the game and quarter get 50 points on game of the week.

Please join ThunderGoodOil in the "Is it time for Coach Fulmer to get a statue" thread....you're making about as much sense.