Pruitt "obviously" in trouble

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TartanTurff said:
Four years ago Florida, Texas A & M and Tennessee fired their head coaches, paying millions to exchange staffs out, Florida is currently number 7 playing in the SEC championship game, A & M is number 5, both are locks for a significant bowl should they elect to go, Tennessee is irrelevant in the SEC, regressing not improving, average margin of loss in a conference only season was 20 points, led by a burned out football coach turned wanna be AD who destroyed his own coaching career by being lazy and inept, might do the same thing to the program as a whole and what is left of his "legacy" at Tennessee
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Both of their rosters were competitive and ours were a bunch of three star champions of life. Not an apples to apples comparison. Doesn't excuse we are not getting better, agree with you there.

The roster is better and if JG was even average we would have been .500 on the year. Offense has looked better with HB and Shrout but one is a Frosh and the other has a cannon with questionable judgment. Both far better than JG. With a QB we are not in bad shape but still well behind UF and aTm.
 
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99gator said:
In no particular order....

Clemson
Notre Dame
Oklahoma
Texas
USC
Ohio State
Penn State
Texas A&M
LSU
Auburn
Georgia
Florida
Alabama
Auburn
Oregon

Arguments can also be made for
Florida State
Miami
Michigan
Washington
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There is just no way that Texas AM, Penn State, Auburn, and Oregon are better schools. If all schools are at peak, that list is basically Alabama, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Notre Dame, and USC. And with Nashville continuing to rank as the fastest growing city in the US, Tennessee is primed to take advantage of that.

I'd say that Clemson, Florida, Georgia, Tennessee, Auburn, Michigan, Texas, Penn State, LSU, Florida State, Miami, and Nebraska are all coach dependent. If they have the right coach, they can be powerhouses, if they don't (like UT hasn't had for 10 years) then they struggle.
 
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daj2576 said:
If you put a blind man in a Ferrari, it isn't the ferraris fault he can't drive fast.
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Re: UT is a top 10 job
Ferrari owners that put blind men in as drivers do NOT have top 10 Ferraris, that is, who wants to drive for an owner who doesn't value his vehicle?
 
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Erik Ainge and Brian Rice will absolutely get hammered and lose it Monday, I may tune in just to hear those 2 knobs try to spin this one.
 
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99gator said:
In no particular order....

Clemson
Notre Dame
Oklahoma
Texas
USC
Ohio State
Penn State
Texas A&M
LSU
Auburn
Georgia
Florida
Alabama
Oregon

Arguments can also be made for
Florida State
Miami
Michigan
Washington
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Tennessee is a better Job than Oregon, Washington, Auburn, Clemson and A&M. equal to LSu, Penn state, Florida State.
 
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Lets be honest. Tennessee used to be a top 10 job. With 13 years of failure and continuing to be turned down by coaches every HC search, and the hiring of Dooley, Jones, and Pruitt has moved us to Top 20.

We could be top 10 again, but it would take new boosters to take over control from the ones that don't care if Tennessee is competitive or not.
 
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Some of you are not thinking like a coach, IMO.

If I am the head coach at Clemson, what's my major obstacle to success?

If I am the head coach at Oregon, what's my major obstacle to success?

Ask the same thing for Tennessee.
 
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Nationdom said:
I dont think Clemson, A&M, Auburn, are better, At best they are qual to UT
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Nationdom and I just agreed on something. Clemson, Auburn, and A&M have no inherent advantages over UT and our fans/boosters invest more than any of those.

We deserve a better product
 
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MKEvol said:
There is just no way that Texas AM, Penn State, Auburn, and Oregon are better schools. If all schools are at peak, that list is basically Alabama, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Notre Dame, and USC. And with Nashville continuing to rank as the fastest growing city in the US, Tennessee is primed to take advantage of that.

I'd say that Clemson, Florida, Georgia, Tennessee, Auburn, Michigan, Texas, Penn State, LSU, Florida State, Miami, and Nebraska are all coach dependent. If they have the right coach, they can be powerhouses, if they don't (like UT hasn't had for 10 years) then they struggle.
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Everyone needs the right coach. Let me put what I am trying to say in a different way.

What major programs out there is it easier to win at than Tennessee? For the most part, I would take the schools I listed.
 
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MKEvol said:
There is just no way that Texas AM, Penn State, Auburn, and Oregon are better schools. If all schools are at peak, that list is basically Alabama, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Notre Dame, and USC. And with Nashville continuing to rank as the fastest growing city in the US, Tennessee is primed to take advantage of that.

I'd say that Clemson, Florida, Georgia, Tennessee, Auburn, Michigan, Texas, Penn State, LSU, Florida State, Miami, and Nebraska are all coach dependent. If they have the right coach, they can be powerhouses, if they don't (like UT hasn't had for 10 years) then they struggle.
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And particularly now, where our head coach would retreat to the "security" of being a line coach. That was the sign that tipped me.
 
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99gator said:
In no particular order....

Clemson
Notre Dame
Oklahoma
Texas
USC
Ohio State
Penn State
Texas A&M
LSU
Auburn
Georgia
Florida
Alabama
Oregon

Arguments can also be made for
Florida State
Miami
Michigan
Washington
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Clemson is entirely a product of Dabo Swinney. Without him they are not an elite program. They hadn't won anything significant in over 30 years before he got there and that time they did they were cheating on a near death penalty scale. Oregon isn't close to an elite level job either . Florida State, Miami and Michigan are all elite jobs. Georgia is borderline.
 
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#245
wrangler said:
Not arguing against your point, it's just got nothing to do with my post that you responded to. The decision was made by Fulmer, and reflects on his judgment.
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Someone stated the extensions have to be approved by higher-ups so is Fulmer 100% to blame.
 
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#246
VolArmy74 said:
Clemson is entirely a product of Dabo Swinney. Without him they are not an elite program. They hadn't won anything significant in over 30 years before he got there and that time they did they were cheating on a near death penalty scale. Oregon isn't close to an elite level job either . Florida State, Miami and Michigan are all elite jobs. Georgia is borderline.
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I hate Georgia more than you can possibly imagine.

It's a better job than Tennessee.
 
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99gator said:
Some of you are not thinking like a coach, IMO.

If I am the head coach at Clemson, what's my major obstacle to success?

If I am the head coach at Oregon, what's my major obstacle to success?

Ask the same thing for Tennessee.
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That's a completely fair point. But it seems like a lot of coaches want to compete at the highest level. Much like a lot of the best players.

You could win a title at Oregon and like 3 people may care. It's sad what the Pac12 has become, and it will get way worse once the older contingent dies off. No one under 40 out that way cares an ounce about cfb.
 
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#249
99gator said:
Everyone needs the right coach. Let me put what I am trying to say in a different way.

What major programs out there is it easier to win at than Tennessee? For the most part, I would take the schools I listed.
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I understood exactly what you meant, I just believe you are you're thinking too myopic. Like I listed, the only schools that aren't really coach dependent are Alabama, OSU, Oklahoma, USC, and Notre Dame. Those programs have won big under multiple coaches over the history of the game.

You keep saying what is the obstacle at Clemson? Well, Dabo for one. But once he is gone...literally the same thing that made them an also ran for basically the entirety of their program. FSU and Miami aren't going to suck forever. VT has the ability to be good. The city is in the middle of nowhere, and their alumni base is tiny compared to Tennessee.

What obstacle does Oregon have? Well, again...USC isn't going to be down forever. They have no history of being an elite program. No national titles.
 
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