Pruitt not benching JG. Says he’s the best QB on the roster

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TuVol4u said:
Other thing to consider is this....
I was all about switching up QBs headed into this game.
What happens though if we do put in Mauer or Shrout and both guys do absolutely nothing (or worse)?
It just makes Pruitt look bad and shakes the confidence of the QB position group.
Unless JG just absolutely sucks in the worst possible way against UTC, we probably wont see another QB this season.

Lets just hope Chaney can see now after 2 games he has his work cut out for him.
This isnt Brees, Chaney.
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If they both come in and do nothing. Then what has changed other than we know what we have and we know Bailey is the starter next year and look to try entice some other QB to come and bench here. Some times you gotta see what you have and what you don't come game time. We KNOW what we have in JG. If Pruitt wants to ride that dead horse then Pruitt needs to be ready to answer the why is JG still starting question every week and coaching abilities questioned.
 
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Truth 1: JGs inadequate QB play is the reason we need to establish a prepared backup quarterback.

Truth 2: JGs inadequate QB play is the reason we have not been able to establish a prepared backup quarterback.

it's no wonder we're such a divided fanbase. We live in Bizarro World.
 
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ShoalCreekVol said:
Truth 1: JGs inadequate QB play is the reason we need to establish a prepared backup quarterback.

Truth 2: JGs inadequate QB play is the reason we have not been able to establish a prepared backup quarterback.

it's no wonder we're such a divided fanbase. We live in Bizarro World.
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The same stuff happened under Jones, where we couldn’t dominate vastly inferior competition, leading to Dormady getting zero live reps.

We saw that disaster unfold the following year, which gave us JG.

Ugghhh
 
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Doberman said:
The same stuff happened under Jones, where we couldn’t dominate vastly inferior competition, leading to Dormady getting zero live reps.

We saw that disaster unfold the following year, which gave us JG.

Ugghhh
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This is why keeping JG as the starter now, not only tanks this season, but further tanks next season as well. Zero live reps for the backup stunts development
 
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BeardedVol said:
This is why keeping JG as the starter now, not only tanks this season, but further tanks next season as well. Zero live reps for the backup stunts development
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Im sure JG's zip on the ball and decisions made with a don't hit jeresy on at 3/4 speed knowing there's a mulligan available look relatively impressive in practice but don't match what he does in a live game
 
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Think we know why we're recruiting 2 QB's with Bailey already committed. We need them, need depth, and we need a back up who can at least be put into games.
 
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Peyton_ManThing said:
Lets be real for a second and quit pretending like those of us sitting on a couch every Saturday know better than Coach Pruitt who should be starting for our Vols. I'm not defending saying JG is a great QB I'm just saying I believe Pruitt when he says he's the best option we have right now. JG has made some poor decisions so far this year.. more so than even last year I believe, however, he's on his 4th OC in 4 years. Kid hasn't had the same playbook for consecutive years since high school. Those of you saying Pruitt is to blame for not recruiting over him are also idiots.. 1. JG was highly regarded and recruited out of high school. He's someone we happily took then and expected to contribute. 2. Blame Helton for us not having Adrian Martinez on this team.. He specifically decided he wanted Shrout over him. 3. I believe Mauer is a talented QB but he is also a true frosh. College is a totally different game and neither he nor Shrout have apparently demonstrated enough in practice to be considered a viable option. Pruitt & his staff are recruiting like mad men.. give them time to get their guys here and develop them.

BACK UP QB IS ALWAYS MOST POPULAR GUY ON THE TEAM WHEN THINGS AREN'T GOING YOUR WAY. REMEMBER WHEN OUR FAN BASE BASHED THE CRAP OUT OF WORLEY, DEMANDING WE START PETERMAN BC WE KNOW MORE THAN THE COACHING STAFF? YOU REMEMBER HOW THAT WENT? WORST QB START AND PERFORMANCE I CAN EVER REMEMBER. Losing sucks but this program isn't a one or two year fix. Pruitt needs time.
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I hear ya. I'm good with giving CJP time, he has recruited some stand out talent and is playing them early. We're just gonna have to take our lumps. I also tend to agree, that JG is maybe the best option we have right now, which is sad.

That said I have to disagree with a couple of premesis' as I see them. Changes in OCs or HCs does not make a QB more or less accurate. I would never accuse JG of being accurate consistently. Heck most of the time he is off by a step. It's a physical thing, hand/eye etc. You either have it or you have it sometimes, or you don't.....and the latter means you'll never QB at this level. Same for arm strength. Secondly, changes in OC don't help you read the field pre and post snap. Knowing the playbook might help that, but you still have to read the D. Such as blitzes, double teams, one-on-one match ups, etc. on Saturday I watched JG throw to JJ, who was obviously double teamed at the snap of the ball. He still threw it to him anyway. WTF? You're telling me there wasn't a 1:1 matchup on the field during that play?

Anyway, changes in OCs doesn't make an arm stronger, or more accurate. Reading defense's and understanding your playbook is an acquired mental skill......one JG has yet to master. And that also doesn't depend solely on the OC. As someone said earlier, he is playing like a freshman......especially in terms of his decision making. While things could be worse with another QB......it remains to be seen if JG can dig himself out of this hole. It's getting a bit late in his career to do that. Lights should have gone on much earlier.

Lastly, we are one hit away from having to sub a second QB. If one or the other isn't ready, well that is on the OC. I'd suggest a little sense of urgency with regards to Shrout and Maurer. As it stands JG is running out of games to show he has what it takes.
 
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stillavol said:
You said that by playing Maurer, HB may not sign with us (which most people recognize as a ludicrous statement)..Now somehow youve changed it to Josh Dobbs...Dobbs played because Worley got hurt which has NOTHING to do with your illogical reasoning on why Maurer should not play..
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I just stumbled across this this again and re read it. I must have been tired or something because I though YOU were saying Maurer should not play. Seems you and I were both debating reasons he SHOULD.
 
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The problem is he is afraid of what will happen should the mocs win. He is corned because of his lack of ability.
 
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The village idiots have forgotten the time when they all were doing the very same thing in clamouring for Nick "Ginger" Stephens to take over for Crompton. Or the other QB Nick Lamaison who they all thought would come in and lead us to the promise land.
 
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Every other player on the field gets subbed for except kickers, and long snappers and QBs. The coaches are in a corner with JG. He is the best QB in practice, problem is, everything thing in practice is scripted so everyone knows what the next defense is and if a blitz is coming and where it’s coming from. Clearly JG is not great in real game situations.
Here’s where the other problem lies for the coaches, if they were to play another QB and they were to make a few plays, the road can never lead back to the player that is better in practice.
 
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1vol8 said:
People are just pissed. We want to win. Most take him at his word but some see what he’s doing. It’s not that JG is better. He’s playing that card so he doesn’t lose Bailey. He sees JG isn’t working. So does HB. If he makes a change to Maurer he knows things are likely to get better. But that move alone costs him 2 qbs for next year bring him to 3 instead of the 5 he expects. It’s strategy
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The only way I see this strategy working is if they lose HB, is that they may lose BJO & possible Arik Gilbert if they think they have a really good shot at getting him
 
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stillavol said:
Jalen Hurts is on his 4th OC in 4 yrs...Tua Tagoviolia is on his 3rd OC in 3 yrs..Drew Lock had at least 3 OC..and the transition from high school to college with not only a new OC, but a new team and environment is the toughest transition of all..Yet we see many frosh QBs do this....I can name you 10 that had no problem and looked better than JG does in his 4th yr..One would have to believe that most QBs with 4 yrs of experience wouldnt be throwing into triple coverage, and be able to read a defense..Is this you Erik Ainge?
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Lol you can't compare Hurts and Tua to JG though. The amount of talent they're surrounded by is night and day difference from JG's situation. Especially when it comes to O line play. Again I'm not defending JG in the sense that I think he's an awesome Qb. I'm just saying he might really be the best we have right now. He has the arm strength to make most throws. Where he falls short is the ability to go through WR progressions. It seems like he takes the snap, stares down his 1st option, decides whether he wants to try and squeeze it in there, and if not he immediately goes to his checkdown. We have receiver's coming open, it's frustrating knowing JG is sometimes not even looking in their direction.
 
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SLICKYINC said:
No we're not. We had Martinez committed here for a while. When Pruitt took over he flipped to Nebraska to play for Frost.

They then had to go out and find someone on short notice. Pruitt took Heltons advice on Shrout and we ended up signing him last minute.

Insert graduate transfer to shore up the QB room because Mcbride left too.

Then last year we signed Maurer, who wasn't exactly a Chaney type of QB and is a true freshman.

I could go on and on but I think you get the point.
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This is exactly the type of recruiting fire drill you will get every year until UT has a stable coaching situation. Change the coach, roll the dice in recruiting. Bailey, by the way, appears to be exactly the kind of QB this program needs and he appears to be firmly committed to Pruitt and Chaney, not UT. Fans are "committed" to schools and colors. High level athletes commit to the coaches who recruit them.
 
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TAF said:
If this is true...(nobody better, including Maryland transfer)

It is a sad case.

EDIT: My bad, I forgot Hill isn't available this year...

STILL...sad to read that the backups aren't better than what we've seen from Guarantano.
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My opinion for Pruitt NOT making change? Its all about Harrison Bailey. Pruitt wants him here January 1st
 
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jacvols said:
The only way I see this strategy working is if they lose HB, is that they may lose BJO & possible Arik Gilbert if they think they have a really good shot at getting him
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Right. That’s digging a little deeper but very much true. The point is we stand to lose much more than we realize by Maurer doing well than we realize because without HB those 2 are gone too along with a 5 qb competition down to 3.
 
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