Pruitt not benching JG. Says he’s the best QB on the roster

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cgrish said:
What must Shrout and Maurer think, when they see the garbage qb of JG; and hear Pruitt say JG is the best we have, actually he didn't really say jg is best; he said we all know who the best qb is, leaving a little way out there. But I assume he was speaking of jg; but hope not.
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JG is starting, which should have been a major clue for Shrout and Maurer that he was better than them.
 
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1vol8 said:
I agree.... but Pruitt wants that security of 5 qbs vs only 3. That’s my take
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Times have changed, you are not going to have that luxury anymore with all the transfers going on. i mean 3 really good qb's, just not going to happen. You play the best you have regardless of if they freshman or senior
 
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All I’m saying is CJP mentioned JG is the best QB on the roster right now. Unfortunately, he’s probably correct. I believe the young guys should start getting PT. But I can’t disagree with coach’s statement.
 
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cgrish said:
And why would we need him if Maurer takes off with the game, which I think he will. I have only seen him in orange and white game and I saw great potential. If he doesn't get to play this yr. he transfers and we lose what I think to be a very good qb, a true duel threat which all the really good teams in college have as qb now.
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At some point BM may be hurt and there will be no quality back up of HBs caliber in 2020 if he doesn’t keep Maurer on the sidelines in 2019.
 
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Doberman said:
Well, Pruitt is really dumb if he is sacrificing the now, to land one recruit that may or may not pan out.
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Exactly, I have seen some highly rated qb's be a bust, such as JG he was highly rated. That's why he needs to see what these other qb's can do in a game. Surely if he was gonna play them some this year he wouldn't wait till sec play to do it. Or again he might like against Ga. so he can say I told you we were playing the best qb
 
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cgrish said:
Times have changed, you are not going to have that luxury anymore with all the transfers going on. i mean 3 really good qb's, just not going to happen. You play the best you have regardless of if they freshman or senior
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I agree. Pruitt is learning on the job and he’s about to find out that he’s basically trading Aaron Rodgers for Matt Ryan.
 
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VolFootballIsLife said:
All I’m saying is CJP mentioned JG is the best QB on the roster right now. Unfortunately, he’s probably correct. I believe the young guys should start getting PT. But I can’t disagree with coach’s statement.
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But how do you or even Pruitt know that; no one has seen them in a real game. You can't tell how good a person is really till they get in the game. I can give you many examples of this. Manning is one, was number 3 qb on the charts, and only because of injury did he get to start. and I remember very well, Hershel Walker did not start or even play till Ga played Tn. of couse he wasn't a qb, but How could a coach not see the talent till then. Because in practice most of the time it is just drills, and not real tackling.
Some are very good practice players but not so good in a real game.
 
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cgrish said:
But how do you or even Pruitt know that; no one has seen them in a real game. You can't tell how good a person is really till they get in the game. I can give you many examples of this. Manning is one, was number 3 qb on the charts, and only because of injury did he get to start. and I remember very well, Hershel Walker did not start or even play till Ga played Tn. of couse he wasn't a qb, but How could a coach not see the talent till then. Because in practice most of the time it is just drills, and not real tackling.
Some are very good practice players but not so good in a real game.
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I don’t disagree. CJP probably sees the FR as too risky right now and isn’t going into the Monday presser trying to crush his QBs psyche. He didn’t say he was sticking with him all year...just didn’t come out and tell the world he’s making the switch.

My gut says he’s concerned that an inexperienced QB could put our D in too many bad spots. JG is his game manager at the moment.
 
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VolFootballIsLife said:
I don’t disagree. CJP probably sees the FR as too risky right now and isn’t going into the Monday presser trying to crush his QBs psyche. He didn’t say he was sticking with him all year...just didn’t come out and tell the world he’s making the switch.

My gut says he’s concerned that an inexperienced QB could put our D in too many bad spots. JG is his game manager at the moment.
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Crush JG psyche ? That's his concern is protecting someone who can't play a lick ? It's just more BS because I can just about bet you he isn't concerned about the psyche of any other player on the team that can't get it done. He may try and coach them up but he's not worried about their psyche while he is doing it. They will never win rolling JG out there thinking he will get better. He should be more concerned about his D not being able to friggin line up. They may have to use picture cards on the sidelines to signal in the D play calls. Just draw a picture of where they need to line up and put it on a card and hold it up from the sideline.
 
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knox-townVOL said:
There you have it folks
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CJP also said QBs can look and perform differently under the lights and that we desperately need to play Strout and Maurer, determine a backup and go from there.

I also read somewhere or heard on RTI that staff thought Strout was better than Chryst last season but they decided to keep him Redshirted.

RTI had a good comparison on Crompton and JG with Chaney. It took Cromp-Daddy about 5 games to get it going under Chaney but he somehow finished as the 5th best QB in 12 team? SEC that year. Doubt it was a banner year for SEC QBs though.
 
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cgrish said:
Times have changed, you are not going to have that luxury anymore with all the transfers going on. i mean 3 really good qb's, just not going to happen. You play the best you have regardless of if they freshman or senior
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We won’t be able to keep both anyway after 2020. We better hope he doesn’t end up in the SEC east like UGA if it’s Maurer that leaves. If I’m not mistaken Fromm only has 2 years left and Mathis can’t compete with BM.
 
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VolFootballIsLife said:
CJP has more football knowledge in his left nut than anybody posting. It’s hilarious to hear the bashing. Believing there’s some miracle quick fix is absurd.

JG has been a liability. I, for one, would love another option. But to think those young guys (FR at that) are better right now, is probably a stretch. I do hope he starts getting them some game experience and truly hope there’s a good ole fashion competition next summer for the starting job.
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Why in the hell do those "young guys" have to improve, while Guarantano has never had to.

It's getting ridiculous. We are on the 3rd wasted year on this experiment. Its like grabbing up a big fresh dog turd, pressing it into your palm, and keeping it there. And when people ask "what are doing there, with that dog turd?"

You reply, "Just holding onto it, because in three weeks it might not smell as bad."
 
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Volhoops said:
Crush JG psyche ? That's his concern is protecting someone who can't play a lick ? It's just more BS because I can just about bet you he isn't concerned about the psyche of any other player on the team that can't get it done. He may try and coach them up but he's not worried about their psyche while he is doing it. They will never win rolling JG out there thinking he will get better. He should be more concerned about his D not being able to friggin line up. They may have to use picture cards on the sidelines to signal in the D play calls. Just draw a picture of where they need to line up and put it on a card and hold it up from the sideline.
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Put it this way:

10 games left
3 seem impossible to win (ALA, UGA, UF)
Need 6/7 to go to post season - extra practices and experience are invaluable.

He’s banking JG gives him a better shot to do that rather than the FR. That could change. But as of today, 6/7 is not unrealistic even as bad as we look.

2 non-conference plus USC, Vandy, UK (Wilson our for year). Those are realistic.

MSU and Mizzou need to get one.

CJP doesn’t have a defeatist mentality yet. I’m not saying the above will happen but he’s not crazy to think JG can do that (not that I’m a fan of JG). It’s attainable at this point with continuous improvement of the young D.

Once that is officially off the table, I’m sure his mindset will change. Just my reading of the situation - I could be wrong.
 
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Alto1 said:
Ass u me.
If that’s the case we’re done, period..
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If JG is most definitely the best option we have now?
Season is over because since JG can’t cut it against GAST or BYU, then the SEC will eat his lunch big time!
 
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Other thing to consider is this....
I was all about switching up QBs headed into this game.
What happens though if we do put in Mauer or Shrout and both guys do absolutely nothing (or worse)?
It just makes Pruitt look bad and shakes the confidence of the QB position group.
Unless JG just absolutely sucks in the worst possible way against UTC, we probably wont see another QB this season.

Lets just hope Chaney can see now after 2 games he has his work cut out for him.
This isnt Brees, Chaney.
 
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Reading the title of this thread makes me want to throw up!
If this is the case, I hope JG gets ALL their jobs!
 
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VolFootballIsLife said:
Put it this way:

10 games left
3 seem impossible to win (ALA, UGA, UF)
Need 6/7 to go to post season - extra practices and experience are invaluable.

He’s banking JG gives him a better shot to do that rather than the FR. That could change. But as of today, 6/7 is not unrealistic even as bad as we look.

2 non-conference plus USC, Vandy, UK (Wilson our for year). Those are realistic.

MSU and Mizzou need to get one.

CJP doesn’t have a defeatist mentality yet. I’m not saying the above will happen but he’s not crazy to think JG can do that (not that I’m a fan of JG). It’s attainable at this point with continuous improvement of the young D.

Once that is officially off the table, I’m sure his mindset will change. Just my reading of the situation - I could be wrong.
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Let me state one last thing. It takes points to win a game and with this defense it will take a lot. JG has no chance of weekend and week out leading this offense to the points it will need to win games. Over the last four games he is 0-4. He just under performed in the first two games this year with an offensive team that had more talent and speed than the opposing teams defense and yet he could not produce enough points.
 
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VolFootballIsLife said:
Put it this way:

10 games left
3 seem impossible to win (ALA, UGA, UF)
Need 6/7 to go to post season - extra practices and experience are invaluable.

He’s banking JG gives him a better shot to do that rather than the FR. That could change. But as of today, 6/7 is not unrealistic even as bad as we look.

2 non-conference plus USC, Vandy, UK (Wilson our for year). Those are realistic.

MSU and Mizzou need to get one.

CJP doesn’t have a defeatist mentality yet. I’m not saying the above will happen but he’s not crazy to think JG can do that (not that I’m a fan of JG). It’s attainable at this point with continuous improvement of the young D.

Once that is officially off the table, I’m sure his mindset will change. Just my reading of the situation - I could be wrong.
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I believe that the coaches would / should know better than any of us who the best QB on the roster is (don't take this as me being a JG sheep, because the the guy has been absolutely awful in both of the first two games and I would love to see Maurer and Shrout get plenty of snaps this week). With that being said, I think it is 100% fair to ask the question WHY do we not have anyone better to go with.

When Pruitt was hired, we still had a very real shot of keeping Adrian Martinez and/or Michael Penix on board in the 2018 recruiting class (if I'm not mistaken). Both ultimately signed elsewhere. Had the coaches succeeded in keeping either of those two on board (particularly Martinez), we have a different and better starting QB right now. Long story short, starting JG given the state of our QB room probably isn't the problem. Not already having somebody better than JG, on the other hand, is a problem that Pruitt is directly responsible for not having solved.
 
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cgrish said:
Times have changed, you are not going to have that luxury anymore with all the transfers going on. i mean 3 really good qb's, just not going to happen. You play the best you have regardless of if they freshman or senior
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I understand wanting Bailey but if you got a guy that bring something to the team and get the reps during next season camp he might just light it up next season.
Either way it goes IMO you're gonna lose 2 QB's next year. You play Maurer, you lose Bailey and JG. You get Bailey, you likely lose BM & JG.
 
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BisonVol said:
I believe that the coaches would / should know better than any of us who the best QB on the roster is (don't take this as me being a JG sheep, because the the guy has been absolutely awful in both of the first two games and I would love to see Maurer and Shrout get plenty of snaps this week). With that being said, I think it is 100% fair to ask the question WHY do we not have anyone better to go with.

When Pruitt was hired, we still had a very real shot of keeping Adrian Martinez and/or Michael Penix on board in the 2018 recruiting class (if I'm not mistaken). Both ultimately signed elsewhere. Had the coaches succeeded in keeping either of those two on board (particularly Martinez), we have a different and better starting QB right now. Long story short, starting JG given the state of our QB room probably isn't the problem. Not already having somebody better than JG, on the other hand, is a problem that Pruitt is directly responsible for not having solved.
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The coaches don’t even know who the best starting 5 OL is.

I wouldn’t be giving them the benefit of the doubt at this point.
 
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