Program coaching legends

[YankeeVol]

I said he was a damn good coach. No one said anything about bad. It's not a binary choice. Silly last comment. If he is a legend to you that's cool, but he's not in the realm of college football outside of UT fans

Except ESPN (who hates us) has him on their Top 150 list of all time...

And 1 of 2 (the '67 claim is dumb AF) coaches to have a NC at TN...

 

[Flipdaddy]

99.9% of Bama fan's can't even name the coach before Saban. Nor can they name a coach other than Bryant or Saban.

for real!!!

 

[adam.vol]

Makes sense but I know Alabama fans in their 20s that don’t know who Neyland was.

Leave it to Bama fans to not know where they play every other 3rd Saturday in October.

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

Except ESPN (who hates us) has him on their Top 150 list of all time...

And 1 of 2 (the '67 claim is dumb AF) coaches to have a NC at TN...

I agree with that top 150 list. That doesn't contradict my opinion at all. "Except" ?

 

[Rickyvol77]

Fans from other schools that are in their 20s don’t know Neyland is. I work with them, they’ve never heard of him.

Just because younger people are ignorant doesn't make Neyland not a legend

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

It's not just what he did at ND IMO. He was successful at NC State and Arkansas as well (and moderately at USCjr) . I also think his career in TV makes a difference as well.

ND hasn't won a NC since either....

They wouldn't have won that one if replay/review was around then

 

[GVF]

I don't see Holtz as a legend. He's ND's version of Fulmer, both have a NC but both fall short of being legends.

Holtz is drawing legend lingo because he spent a decent run at ND. But, he did have around 78% win rate and their only natty since the 70's. But, his personna and post career in the press box has elevated his on field achievements. He had plenty of what could have been seasons. He did invoke the locker room personna of Rockney IMO, and that has led to his mystique. But, what I consider a legend....he's sub-par to Saban or Bear, or Neyland. Majors had the mystique and personna but not elite or legend IMO. On the field Fulmer torched him. Majors was marginally above .600 win % at UT. Maybe .640 range. That's not worthy of legend consideration. Woody Hayes was/is a legend, but has anyone ever been truly bad at tOSU post 40's?? Since 1890 they've only posted 14 losing records. Earl Bruce was posting as good a win% as Hayes but only had about 1/3 the seasons. BK win% at ND was #3/4 all-time range at ND. If he'd stayed in his arena and got a natty or two there, he'd have hit legend. He already had 12 seasons. Tressel got tarnished, but was on his way to tOSU legend easily.

And I'm thinking time sensitive eras as legends. Pre-WWII/1960's, and post-60's. Totally different football game evolved. But, legends nonetheless. There will be very few legends going forward with the inherent lack of tenures in today's programs. Saban, Smart and Dabo are rare commodities by today's standards. Richt had a long run at UGA for the times. Smart will be another Vince Dooley as long as he chooses to coach and I doubt he would coach another college program, and likely not NFL. He will be the current rare breed and will be UGA or retired. I could see Elcko hitting the long haul at A&M. Day has to put up with alot of crap, but he may make the long haul by choice. I could see Lanning hitting a stride at Oregon maybe. Cristobol may finish out at Miami. But, I don't see any of them except Kirby reaching legend status of the current HC's.