Playoff expansion is the wrong way to go

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madbamahater said:
So you are for or against giving teams like Florida an expanded chance at making the post season, get hot, and win it all? You are for or against that?
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I’ll watch regardless of what they decide, because at the end of the day I enjoy college football. I guess that makes me…indifferent?

Whether it’s 4, 6 or 12 teams I’ll watch.

My thoughts on expansion were spelled out earlier in this thread, but I’ll recap for you.

Good - More teams, more revenue spread out over more teams, fewer opt outs, more meaningful bowl games.

Bad - More blowouts, likely more teams from dominant conferences taking up slots over other conferences, increased possibility of rematches.

Expansion is inevitable, for better or for worse.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
It’s been six years since Aloha Stadium hosted the Pro Bowl.

Orlando hosted it from 2017-2020, and the players appeared to love it there too.
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I quit watching the NFL several years ago. I would still go to Oahu for the pro bowl even if I had to watch it in a bar. Orlando has no draw for me. I guess I just showed my lack of interest in the NFL.
 
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I have a feeling they will expand the playoff to probably 8 teams. If that happens, there will be some ugly blowouts. I don’t dispute that Bama Georgia and Michigan deserved to be in this year. Cincy? I’m actually impressed they kept it as “close” as they did. And both those semis were blowouts.
 
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Looks like we are working to mimic the NFL where possible. The NIL is beginning to look like free agency and HS recruiting could be made similar to the NFL draft. Then we just shorten the regular season to end by Oct 1st and these games before Oct 1 could be like exhibition games where UT could play Austin Peay, UT-Martin, etc. Then invite every team to participate in one big bracket. All invited to not discriminate and have any school feel bad. Just tell them they are part of the big money pot. Then it will be win or go home, true champion, zero sum game, one winner and the rest losers.
 
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One could use this same argument to say that expanding the playoffs would mean bringing importance to more bowl games.
 
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I have mixed feelings. A lot of the past was better than today. I am good with some sort of playoff to set the top 5-10 teams but, I also believe the polls were just as good at not being very good. Even the winner of the national championship aka playoffs is debatably not the best team in the nation. So many changes, injuries, good or bad calls, COVID, money, strength of schedule, etc., that we are simply looking at the survivor as much as anything. I do not want the college sports program to become semi-pro but, the cows have left the barn. I yearn for another UT vs somebody in the top twenty playing in the Sugar Bowl or a nice sunny 70+ degree bowl game and me in the middle of the party. I would rather be best in the SEC than best in the nation right now. Our nation is a mess.
 
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Let's be honest. Most people want an expansion cause they know they have very little shot getting in the playoffs without it. It's still going to be the same teams at the end. I'm not sure it'll even spread the talent. It'll prevent opt outs but not the blow outs. Hell you go to 8 or 12 teams right now and I guarantee most could pick most of those teams that will be there next year right now. Top 10 doesn't change much from year to year just the order.

It seems there's people on here butt hurt over ga and bama. From the very beginning the playoff committee said their job was to put the best 4 teams in not the most deserving. They got it right
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
If Alabama and Georgia are the best two teams in college football, they should play each other for the national championship.

All conferences are not created equal.
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If we’re being honest, the conference championship games, should be round 1 of a playoff. Realistically though, the SEC will never let that happen because how many times have we had 2 teams in a four team playoff? Hell, wasn’t there one year where we probably should’ve had 3?
I think all this commotion is for nothing anyway, because I think we’ll eventually see the SEC become a small scale NFL and will have its own playoff and crown it’s own champ.
GBO!!
 
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05_never_again said:
If Tennessee was relevant in this current version, I guarantee you'd feel differently.
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No I would not. ESPN has ruined college football. I miss Jefferson Pilot. I don't like the portal. I don't like the NIL. Like I wrote earlier, there is no leadership in college football and its getting out of control.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
It’s more like the gang rumble scene from Anchorman, with the same four TV stations fighting it out every January.
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Well that part is a good analogy, but specifically all the changes with no guidance or parameters. CFB needs a commissioner.
 
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VolJarhead said:
This is probably an unpopular opinion, but I miss the conference ties to particular bowls and the disputed split national championships. Every bowl mattered. I can't count how many times this bowl season that I read about how such and such bowl was pointless and there was no reason for players to risk injury. Bowls mattered more before the BCS and I hate what the playoffs are turning bowl games into. I am a fan that would like to dissolve the playoff. Is college football profiting more from the playoffs? That is the only way it would go back.
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I actually think they should shorten the regular season by eliminating games with powder puff teams and outer conference regular season games and then expand the playoffs. Maybe the bottom teams in each conference have play-in games.
 
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#92
CFP ratings down versus LY and the last time held on New Years Eve:

CFP Semis
16.1 million for Bama-Cincinnati
16.5 million for Georgia-Michigan

Last year
18.9 million for Bama-Notre Dame
19.1 million for Ohio St.-Clemson

2017 NYE:
19.344M Alabama Washington Peach Bowl
19.237M Clemson Ohio State Fiesta Bowl
 
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ptcarter said:
That ship sailed. I also have fond memories of waking up on New Years day and the bowls were played one after another.. the big ones, Cotton, Sugar, Orange, Gator, Rose and I might be missing one. With that few bowl games, it really was something to make a bowl, and when you woke up on Jan 2, it was officially the off season.
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This to me is why the bowl games are less meaningful. There are just far too many of them.

I would be all for eliminating all but the major bowls that you've discussed. Then it would really mean something to get to a bowl game.
 
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give_him 6 said:
No I would not. ESPN has ruined college football. I miss Jefferson Pilot. I don't like the portal. I don't like the NIL. Like I wrote earlier, there is no leadership in college football and its getting out of control.
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ESPN has ruined CFB by televising all the games in HD. Got it.

The game has always been in a state of change since it has been played. You don't like these changes because you perceive them to be bad for UT, and/or because UT is not good in the current era of the sport that features these things.
 
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I think this will be the last time I post this....wait who am I kidding no it won't.

For the life of me I can't understand why anyone cares to be against playoff expansion. Who the hell cares if the current playoff has blowouts? You're against more football? If you don't like the extra playoff games, it's simple, don't watch. It's the same argument against "too many bowls"....if you think they are too many bowls, don't watch the ones you hate.

You're mad that it's the same teams every year? Playoff or not, it would have been Alabama, Clemson, Ohio St., etc.....playing for the NC the past 5-6 years. The playoff didn't "ruin" bowls, nobody gave a damn about 6-6 teams playing in the Roto-Rooter Flush Bowl before the playoff either. In no reality was the Potato Bowl relevent. And for some it's better now....the Peach Bowl is whole lot more important now than say....1987 when UT/Indiana's Peach Bowl wasn't even televised on a national network.

Why in the hell would anyone want to go back to a time when all bowls were locked in to certain teams because of conference ties. Why would anyone in the southeast ever care about the Rose Bowl? Why would you want any "system" where a team even in a P5 conference (or P4 pretty soon I guess) can go undefeated and not even get a shot at the NC? Why would you want any "system" where you can be #2 but you don't get a shot at #1 because that team has to play a 9-3 conference champ and you have to just hope they get upset? These nostalgic rose-colored looks back at the "good ol days" are like people wishing they were in high school again. It's mostly pathetic because that "system" was beyond stupid.
 
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give_him 6 said:
No I would not. ESPN has ruined college football. I miss Jefferson Pilot. I don't like the portal. I don't like the NIL. Like I wrote earlier, there is no leadership in college football and its getting out of control.
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Tell me not to take you seriously without telling me to not take you seriously.
 
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RhodesVol said:
I do love the idea of first round games on campus. Thats a wonderful concept in this expanded reality.
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The first round games SHOULD be hosted by the higher seed. This shouldn't even be a debate. If you want the regular season to keep being important, then doing well enough to host a first round game is a great goal.
 
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