Playoff expansion is the wrong way to go

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#151
luthervol said:
That's some top notch penetrating analysis.

It's the perfect system. This crap of going from 2 teams to 4 teams to maybe 6 or 8 teams is nonsense.
They need to go ahead and go all in. The bowls are dying. More and more of the top players are going to refuse to play, attendance will continue to dwindle, viewership will continue to plummet. Few people are interested in a game with no meaning, especially when there are games with meaning. My system gives 27 bowls a year a game with meaning, and leaves no current bowl out in the cold.

Like I said.....perfect.
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vols 30 said:
You want to leave it up to the polls to determine the championship game?
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They are no worse than a committee


Hell theyre probably better


If a team who finsihed 2nd in their conference is playing to be 1st in the nation...that is a effed up system and very poor math.

If youre going to use a playoff system it should be a tournament of champions...otherwise you didnt win a National Championship...you just won a tournament championship.
 
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How are you going to expand the playoffs when kids are opting out of bowl games now ? It's a me and mine culture out there and expanding the playoffs is not going to change that. If you can't get them to play one extra game why are they going to play 3-4 more games ? The NIL deals are going to determine recruiting as much as anything in the future.
 
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Volhoops said:
How are you going to expand the playoffs when kids are opting out of bowl games now ? It's a me and mine culture out there and expanding the playoffs is not going to change that. If you can't get them to play one extra game why are they going to play 3-4 more games ? The NIL deals are going to determine recruiting as much as anything in the future.
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They are only opting out of meaningless games. That's why they should get rid of meaningless games and replace them with games that have meaning.......playoff games.
 
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VolJarhead said:
This is probably an unpopular opinion, but I miss the conference ties to particular bowls and the disputed split national championships. Every bowl mattered. I can't count how many times this bowl season that I read about how such and such bowl was pointless and there was no reason for players to risk injury. Bowls mattered more before the BCS and I hate what the playoffs are turning bowl games into. I am a fan that would like to dissolve the playoff. Is college football profiting more from the playoffs? That is the only way it would go back.
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The split national championships? You miss that? Giving some stupid sorts journalists the final say on who is champions by a vote rather than leaving in the player's hands? I have read some dumb as Hell crap before. But that tops it all. Football is not a democracy. IMO, taking voting out of the equation made things better not worse. Many of you just got addicted to the polls. I hated nothing more than watching the last of the bowls on a Saturday night, and having to wait for some fat assed sports journalist to cast his vote. And I hated it more when it was split because the AP and UPI could not agree.

The only reasons many bowls do not matter is the fact that they keep starting new ones. The increased number of sports networks available makes that possible, but when you increase the number, the prestige gets thinned out. It is what it is.

About the only thing I agree with is the unpopular opinion. It is very unpopular with me. Just because there are facets of college football are all screwed up is no reason to be fond of rightfully done away with.
 
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madbamahater said:
No they shouldn't. All other sports don't work that way. Its who gets hot at the right time. Are you suggesting the best 2 teams in the NFL regular season should just automatically play each other in the super bowl every year?

Just have a final 4 with your top college basketball programs every year? No, of course not. So, why is division 1 college football the ONLY sport this happens in?
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Because that is what best makes the sponsors money.
 
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madbamahater said:
No they shouldn't. All other sports don't work that way. Its who gets hot at the right time. Are you suggesting the best 2 teams in the NFL regular season should just automatically play each other in the super bowl every year?

Just have a final 4 with your top college basketball programs every year? No, of course not. So, why is division 1 college football the ONLY sport this happens in?
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So if UT BB loses only four games, but does not win the SEC Tournament, then no March Madness? No CWS if one does not win the tournament?

No more NFL wild cards? The NBA regular season will no longer serve to eliminate four teams from the playoffs? (this is not a bad idea!)

Not trying to be argumentative here, but all the sports you cite do, in fact, work that way.
 
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#161
Go back to the way bowls were set. Play the games and have the 2 highest ranked teams from the coaches poll after the bowl games play for the NC.
 
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goldvol said:
Given what has happened in most of these 4 team playoffs, expansion doesnt make sense to me either. The 1 and 2 teams blow out 3 and 4, so why do we think that 5, 6, 7, 8, 9..., 12 will fare better?
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This is my concern - more playoff teams means more/worse blowouts
 
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West Vol said:
Because we don’t need a playoff to determine who is better between UGA and Bama. We already did that a neutral site.
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But again UGA is a better team than any the other conferences have to offer. Imagine the NFL playoffs telling a team that could win a super bowl at 11-5 tough luck no playoffs because you didn’t win your division but a 8-8 champ goes in
 
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CobbVol said:
Go back to the way bowls were set. Play the games and have the 2 highest ranked teams from the coaches poll after the bowl games play for the NC.
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And we would have Alabama-Michigan. Care to project how that would have worked out?
 
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This year was an anomaly. Clearly only 2 teams worthy of playing for the championship. Usually someone at 3 or 4 has a good case for why they should have had a chance.

I don’t like an even number of teams in the playoffs, think 3 or 5 is better, but no more than 5. There will always be someone who thought they should’ve been in it with even numbers voted in. I like a play-in game. So you are essentially saying there’s either two or four teams that will compete for the title, but one team that gets in extra chance to prove they should be in that conversation with a play-in game for the last seed. That keeps the focus on the top teams, puts pressure on the last playoffs seed to prove they belong, and gives another team a chance to win it in the case of a controversial selection of teams.

But I also think the development of “super conferences” muddies the water on this conversation, and no idea on how that does it J would hope it to play out.
 
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CobbVol said:
Probably Alabama would win. With this however, we would not have any opt outs for bowls or a rematch ... agree?
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I think opt outs would be more prevalent. Any game outside the playoff is little more than an exhibition game.

Everyone made big noise about Cincy almost beating UGA in the Peach Bowl game. UGA was missing over nine NFL draftees and NFL prospects who opted out. Yay Cincy. Say UGA had gone to the Sugar Bowl instead of Ole Miss. Who would really want to see that defense without the NFL draftees playing. Or Alabama with all their current stars not playing?
 
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GroverCleveland said:
I think opt outs would be more prevalent. Any game outside the playoff is little more than an exhibition game.

Everyone made big noise about Cincy almost beating UGA in the Peach Bowl game. UGA was missing over nine NFL draftees and NFL prospects who opted out. Yay Cincy. Say UGA had gone to the Sugar Bowl instead of Ole Miss. Who would really want to see that defense without the NFL draftees playing. Or Alabama with all their current stars not playing?
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The key bowl games like the Sugar Bowl would essentially be the playoffs which I think would make opt outs less prevalent.
 
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Michigan would have played Utah in the Rose. Alabama I am guessing would have played Cincinnati, ND, or Okl State. Georgia would probably played Ohio State or Iowa in the Citrus. Whoever was voted #1 and #2 in the coaches poll after the bowl games would then they would play in the NC 7-10 days later.
 
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VolJarhead said:
This is probably an unpopular opinion, but I miss the conference ties to particular bowls and the disputed split national championships. Every bowl mattered. I can't count how many times this bowl season that I read about how such and such bowl was pointless and there was no reason for players to risk injury. Bowls mattered more before the BCS and I hate what the playoffs are turning bowl games into. I am a fan that would like to dissolve the playoff. Is college football profiting more from the playoffs? That is the only way it would go back.
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Unpopular? Perhaps, but interesting none the less. It would be hard to go back, and I miss it as well. I did not watch many games at all this post season and will likely not watch the championship. It's the same song over and over. I do think expanding the playoff will make more players play the game and not sit out. No one on the 4 CFP teams sits out to "prepare for the draft."

I love the Vols, but am trying to watch more Division II. Seems to be more "amateur" than Division I. At least the NFL is honest about it.
 
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CobbVol said:
The key bowl games like the Sugar Bowl would essentially be the playoffs which I think would make opt outs less prevalent.
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Oh, I 100% agree if they are part of the playoffs. But not under the old bowl system, I do not think so. There would, at most only be a couple of bowls where the teams would be in contention for the title and, maybe to your point, the Sugar would always be one as it has the SEC Champ in it.

But still, overall, opt outs.
 
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