Peace Out

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#105
I think most schools including Tn just need to adjust to the new reality, perhaps lower our expectations a bit because winning a NC is now on par with winning the Powerball jack pot. . What we should do is set our sights on beating a rival like Florida or Bama and if that happens, be happy about it. Maybe have a winning season.
 
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#108
I get it. In 1998 when Anderson missed a chip shot FG after being perfect all year, I finally quit the Vikings. Just too many heartbreaking moments over 30 years. I’m not there with college football yet, but I understand. I’ve enjoyed NFL football much better than when I was a Viking fan. I actually literally LMAO when they missed a FG a few years back to lose to the Seahawks in the playoffs.

Sometimes a switch just flips. I get it.
 
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10seV4L said:
So, I guess you also believe Wal-Mart employees or the ones working production jobs to produce goods, should be the highest paid ppl in the business too.
Imma a skilled laborer. I love the idea. I have thought the same thing my whole career, us boots on the ground should be the most well-compensated because I am how the infrastructure is built in the first place. Without me and those like me, y'all have no Internet or (any) control systems, to say the least.
But, imma hold my breath. You let me know when a million-dollar industry such as fiber optics and data/communications starts paying technicians like they do their CEO's; if my labor is what creates the product then I should have the same argument as the athletes you champion, correct (?). (@Hairy Vols & co.)
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No. In a capitalist society, even a social democracy like ours, management and executives will make more than front-line employees. What has changed, and it has changed in college football, too (if you compare what players were being "paid" prior to NIL to coach salaries in the 70s 80s and even the start of the 90s) is the multiple. It has gone from 21-29 times the front-line salary to 280-290 times that salary. That's a 10 fold increase. That's what not sustainable.
 
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The Future said:
College football we know is done. $$$$ makers are gonna get their way. There may come a day though, young athletes will have to decide to either join the g-league out of high school or go get a college education. I would much rather watch a group of young athletes compete for their school, with a free education, boarding, and nourishment, even though they are of less talent, then the so called future g-league player out of high school and his/hers family thinks. And maybe once a young athlete makes that decision, that's it. He ain't running back to college. Period. Nadda. First it was baseball, then basketball, now football. Go ahead and start g-league football with all the dam sponsors you want. I won't be watching. Never thought it would come to this, but after 50 years as a True VOL Fan,,, I'm out. ✌️
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Paying for tickets have gotten harder from year to year. It's not just because the ticket prices have skyrocketed but because I'm getting to where I don't want to help fund this mess.

It's turned to how much are you going to pay me? They don't necessarily really like your school anymore than the next one. The thing about college sports was always knowing the kids had a passion to be at the school. That comes with conditions these days. The NIL culture is toxic.
 
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BreatheUT said:
Paying for tickets have gotten harder from year to year. It's not just because the ticket prices have skyrocketed but because I'm getting to where I don't want to help fund this mess.

It's turned to how much are you going to pay me? They don't necessarily really like your school anymore than the next one. The thing about college sports was always knowing the kids had a passion to be at the school. That comes with conditions these days. The NIL culture is toxic.
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Players are more and more just being relegated to the same category as the equipment. Need new helmets and shoulder pads... just buy em. Need an new multi million dollar jumbotron and sound system... just buy em, need more grounds keeping equipment... just rent it, need a new QB and offensive line... just rent them for a year (what are the names? dosen't matter.. they are just part of the equipment and will be gone at any time).
 
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10seV4L said:
Some of y'all are too cool, real aloof, hard ass tough guys regarding your fandom
I think some of the division between those who preach krass acceptance (@Hairy Vol), and those who display passionate defiance (@fUTure), is the difference in generations.
Older generations would stand up and protest things they didn't like and attempt to spur change, correction. They feel some entitlement when they have supported something through time, money, and concern.
The newer generations think it stronger to swallow whatever they're force fed and confuse the act with toughness, when they don't push back. They exercise congnitive isolationism to combat against the attachments that grow from investing like the passionate group.

And, the business model we're seeing is more akin to socialism rather than capitalism.
'X' school makes 'x' dollars off of its fanbase's enthusiasm for 'x' team. So, the incoming players now want an even share of the income, even though they did nothing prior to support the industry they now feel entitled to receive premature and arbitrary compensation from, just because the school already has had the success and done the work to create the lucrative platform. That's socialism.
Capitalism is, a player worked hard, created a value in theirselves, and after that, they can then go out and get a "slice of the pie", on a truly open-market.
Capitalism doesn't owe anyone anything, and nor do the schools owe future or current players based on what the market says they could eventually be worth, just because the universities made money off the sport and players in the past.

The problem is, the market is so upside down, top dollar is being paid for unknown commodities, and that alone is going to bleed the sport dry of both interest and finances.
The sport of college football will not live to see or outlast this market correction proficy, if it continues to cannibalize itself at the current rate, and at the behest of the players' greed and indecisiveness.
They are not fit to lead the industry into continued prosperity and functionality, based on their "ownership" of the market for the past few years.
They're bleeding the opportunities earned by those who came before them dry of finances and interest in the process.
If Future has been a fan for 50 years, than I'm certain losing fans like them, in masses eventually, will not be good for the "product(s)"
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Strong Ayn Rand vibes!
 
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Swiftybaby said:
You’ll be back first game next season. Just like all the others who are “done”
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I'm reminded of Charlie Watts who hated touring and told Keith Richards at the end of every tour, "That's it. I'm done. No more tours."

Keith left him alone about it and after the next record was made he'd call Charlie and tell him they were touring again and Charlie would help design the stage...... then quit touring again after that tour ended. 🤷‍♂️
 
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