Ouch. Makes This Season More Disappointing

#51
#51
These folks, who proclaim to be Vol fans, will absolutely cling to anything they can find that paints our team in a negative light and then refer to it as realism.
Yep, pretty easy to run a trend analysis on our prolific negas. Leaders in the EVERYBODY HAS THEM “fans” for UT. Redundancy is an easy identifier. Review their post history and Ck the positive/negative value add ratio.

Just hope they don’t cost us any HS and portal guys. Can they possibly benefit us at all on signing days? You know the lifeblood of improvement.
 
#53
#53
Whatever. As other have said, we’re also the only team to even have played four teams in the current, season ending top 15. You can only play the teams on your schedule.

Put the question in Vegas’ hands. Tennessee plays AT JMU, Tulane, Navy. Who’s favored? The rankings at this point are strictly based on W/L, not who’s “better.”

This is true. Couple that with no adjustments based on how the season played out. Once a team is ranked, they generally will not drop unless they lose or a team lower than them beats a team higher than them convincingly. The original post is poking at Tennessee but in reality, it is also pointing out how the polls work. They react to what happens each week - they never go back to evaluate results to date based on a better understanding of which teams are actually good.

Tennessee would beat a lot of those teams in the lower half of the poll.

Let's look at the top 9 in the SEC. - I cut it off at 9 instead of 8 because Missouri and Tennessee have the same record.

A&M did not play Georgia, Alabama, Oklahoma or Vandy - let that sink in. They only played 2 teams (Texas and Missouri) in the top 9 of the conference and they were 1-1.
Ole Miss did not play Alabama, Oklahoma, Vandy or A&M. They only played 2 teams in the top 9 of the conference and they were 1-1.
Bama played 5 of the top 9. They were 4-1.
Georgia played 4 of the top 9. They were 3-1.
Vandy played 4 of the top 9. They were 2-2.
Oklahoma played 5 of the top 9. They were 3-2.
Texas played 4 of the top 9. They were 3-1.
Missouri played 4 of the top 9. They were 0-4.
Tennessee played 4 of the top 9. They were 0-4.

Of the teams in the top 9, the only schools that played both the teams in the SEC title game (Georgia and Bama) were Tennessee and Auburn.
 
#54
#54
Some of our "so called" fans seem to hate the team more.
We don't hate the team!!!! We hate that we have a Soft team, a undisciplined team, and a team that got skull drug by Vandy, a team that came close to losing every home conference game. A team that let other players come in to Neyland and do to them what they said they would do! Being truthful about the team doesn't mean you hate them!
 
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Only disappointing if you are looking for reasons to be disappointed.
That’s…,pretty much it. This “stat” is laughable because it’s obviously true of every team almost every year. You lose to great teams and you beat up on bad teams. We just happened to have a schedule where Florida, UK, MSU, Arkansas all underachieved, so it skews the results.
 
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As someone said - you play who is on your schedule and hope you beat the teams you should and win some against the teams you are not expected to beat.

In a perfect schedule you would not have A&M and Ole Miss with the easy path to a great season. That said, I do think those teams are good but being honest they had a favorable schedule.
 
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#57
That’s…,pretty much it. This “stat” is laughable because it’s obviously true of every team almost every year. You lose to great teams and you beat up on bad teams. We just happened to have a schedule where Florida, UK, MSU, Arkansas all underachieved, so it skews the results.
Imagine a world where we beat UGA, Bama, OU, and Vandy but lost to UF, Arky, UK, and MsState.

That would be so much less disappointing, wouldn't it?
 
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We don't hate the team!!!! We hate that we have a Soft team, a undisciplined team, and a team that got skull drug by Vandy, a team that came close to losing every home conference game. A team that let other players come in to Neyland and do to them what they said they would do! Being truthful about the team doesn't mean you hate them!

There is a very thin line between constructive criticism and basically reverting to comparisons whose point is to make a team look worse than they really are.

There are many on this board who, when something good happens - they go silent only coming out when they can bash the coaches or players. It gets old.
 
#60
#60
Imagine a world where we beat UGA, Bama, OU, and Vandy but lost to UF, Arky, UK, and MsState.

That would be so much less disappointing, wouldn't it?

The same folks complaining because we lost to them would be finding fault because we lost to the other four. That is just who some on this board are.

I even suspect if we won all 8, they would find something.
 
#61
#61
How do dumba$$es like this get a media platform to spread bad logic. I know it's rocket science genius, but here's how ... We opened in the guessaoalooza of pre season top 25 rankings, we beat all the teams ranked below us and lost to all the teams ranked above us. Sort of like the definition "you should be ranked somewhere in between". Is that clear enough.

I think government education and mass media is crushing people IQs.
 
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#62
#62
OK…OK…OK…
We get it. This wasn’t a good year for the Big Orange. I’m a fan who doesn’t REQUIRE top 5 finishes, National Championships etc, or the season was a failure, coach gotta go, etc, etc.
Frankly friends… pretty much EVERYTHING ELSE in my life is more important than college football, especially so in the current environment so let’s lighten up, enjoy the games and find good things along the way, win or lose.
GBO..!! 👍
 
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There is a very thin line between constructive criticism and basically reverting to comparisons whose point is to make a team look worse than they really are.

There are many on this board who, when something good happens - they go silent only coming out when they can bash the coaches or players. It gets old.
There are also many on these board that when things are bad, they are silent. It goes both ways. That gets old too
 
#64
#64
"Similar results"?

Tulane: 10-2, playing for conference championship
JMU: 11-1, playing for conference championship
Navy: 9-2, tied for 1st in conference, not playing in championship due to tiebreakers
Georgia Tech: 9-3, tied for 2nd in conference, not playing in championship due to tiebreakers
North Texas: 11-1, playing for conference championship

Tennessee: 8-4, tied for 8th in conference

But sure, that's similar.
Ga Tech is a perfect example though. They clearly were not an elite team and anybody watching them knew it. They lost to a couple of 4 loss teams because their defense sucks and were barely beating teams like BC, Clemson etc. But their 9-3 in the ACC is somehow more impressive to you.
 
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You, with your tirade about teams with 2-3 more wins being ranked. And the post/tweet explicitly states "4 losses", so that is after the Vandy game. Tech currently has 3 losses, Tennessee has 4.
I pretty clearly stated that if people want to trash our team for their performance, that is fine. Just apply the same reasoning to other teams. If he is including the Vandy loss, we are no longer ranked in the AP, so his entire rant is not even valid.
 
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#68
I pretty clearly stated that if people want to trash our team for their performance, that is fine. Just apply the same reasoning to other teams. If he is including the Vandy loss, we are no longer ranked in the AP, so his entire rant is not even valid.
Those other teams have more wins. You're wanting participation points, but those are worthless.
 
#70
#70
That’s…,pretty much it. This “stat” is laughable because it’s obviously true of every team almost every year. You lose to great teams and you beat up on bad teams. We just happened to have a schedule where Florida, UK, MSU, Arkansas all underachieved, so it skews the results.
People are nitpicking every little thing they can bc they’re mad. I get it, but it doesn’t help anything other than to help them feel like they have ammunition for a personal agenda. The teams we beat have bad records, but no one in the SEC was just absolutely abysmal. There are no Purdues or Boston Colleges in the SEC. Arkansas as bad they were, pushed most teams. Miss St went to OT with us and Texas. Kentucky took Texas to OT. We were a very flawed football team, but I think we’re a top 20 team.
 
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We stayed ranked becuase we lost to a top 5 UGA team becuase a missed FG, and to a top 10 Oklahoma team becuase of fumble, and to a top 10 Bama team becuase of 14 pt swing off a pick 6.

Any team that hasn't beaten a top 15 team wouldn't have performed any differently than us with our schedule. In fact they probably don't keep the games as close as we did.
 
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Ga Tech is a perfect example though. They clearly were not an elite team and anybody watching them knew it. They lost to a couple of 4 loss teams because their defense sucks and were barely beating teams like BC, Clemson etc. But their 9-3 in the ACC is somehow more impressive to you.
That is the only one that's even in the same ballpark of comparison, but still has more wins. They also went 6-2 in their conference. Tennessee won 4 games against teams with a combined 5 wins. That's impressive to you?
 
#74
#74
So wanting participation credit, got it.
Nope, just gonna use a little common sense and compare apples to apples. The season sucked and there needs to be some changes made on the staff for sure, but if you put Tennessee in any of the conferences that you named, they would be conference champions.
 
#75
#75
That is the only one that's even in the same ballpark of comparison, but still has more wins. They also went 6-2 in their conference. Tennessee won 4 games against teams with a combined 5 wins. That's impressive to you?
I’m not impressed or depressed. You’re the one saying there’s no comparison to a list of teams that includes GT.
 

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