Official Jon Gruden Thread XXVI

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VOLsome said:
I did, I was refreshing live last night...I'm just always looking for an excuse to post that .gif...I in no way think you're racist, I don't even know ya :)

But if ya are, that's not cool man.
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Lmao all good bro.
 
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This might have been the one issue delaying all of this. All of that back and forth behind the scenes wasn't about if Gruden, or when Butch is gone, but, by doing the one thing that really allows the athletics to return to prominence by removing it's biggest obstacle.

It would be the one thing that a BOD meeting would be needed for and the timing was always about the agreement between the AD and AA that needed approval. The VC angle from Bubba from the beginning was the one thing people had problems with and how it fit in. Bubba also said paying Gruden in more than USD. So, the profits that could be gained by such an arrangement also might have the caveat of bonuses and extra pay for Gruden through any IPO/profits/stock from such an arrangement. Don't know the legality, but don't think it's illegal, just creative financing. Likely, I don't know, just grasping at straws.
 
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VFLnSFD said:
Good morning! I wanted to quote something you wrote, but not your dissertation. Here are my thoughts on that:
-obviously, good, meticulous work. I'd expect no less.
-as I've said many times now. There are wildcards, but Gruden's not one of them. I can immediately dismiss any report about "He said no." It simply isn't true.
- talking about the war between boosters and admin. I don't think it is an accident that we get bad news at the same time each day. The admin side is attempting to do what the boosters have done with Bubba and MIT, except the admin is using people in the office with other stuff to do. MIT and bubba are watching everything we say. I believe they are hired professionals, in some way.
- the Haslam stuff reminds me why I don't want to be in politics. I don't want to need to scratch anyone's back. Ever.
-perhaps you are right that he caught wind of bev's decision on outsourcing. I'm hoping that yesterday evening's flurry of activity demonstrates that it is simply the first chip to be cashed in. I'm convinced that hubbs tweeted that because he was told to. I believe it really may have been the white smoke from the chimney.
- I know that the Haslams and the corkers are connected politically and personally, but I'm not sure that corker's presidential bid is a factor here. I just think the Haslam name can't be drug through the mud because of anyone's future in politics.
-PM adds value in so many ways. He is an instant unifier in any contentious negotiations. Plus, he is able to provide sweat equity that is of greater value than his monetary donations might be. Add to it that he is a scarabbean and his clout grows immeasurably.


-last night's message from the Beav really was a gift to me. I said yesterday that the Beav speaks to those that are here for hope, and bubba speaks to those that are here for the problem solving. But the Beav spoke to the problem solvers last night. What he was saying, really, is that the boosters have pocket aces for each hand of poker they are playing/each primary stakeholder. The AA cannot walk away from a deal that includes a VC firm in silicon valley funneling research to a school that aims to be a top 30 public research university. As a graduate from the college of engineering, I appreciate that the boosters brought in this piece.

The boosters have quite literally thought of everything. This is why they are billionaires today.
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Very well said! I'm not surprised since you are a fellow UT engineering graduate. 😃
 
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tennvols77 said:
This might have been the one issue delaying all of this. All of that back and forth behind the scenes wasn't about if Gruden, or when Butch is gone, but, by doing the one thing that really allows the athletics to return to prominence by removing it's biggest obstacle.

It would be the one thing that a BOD meeting would be needed for and the timing was always about the agreement between the AD and AA that needed approval. The VC angle from Bubba from the beginning was the one thing people had problems with and how it fit in. Bubba also said paying Gruden in more than USD. So, the profits that could be gained by such an arrangement also might have the caveat of bonuses and extra pay for Gruden through any IPO/profits/stock from such an arrangement. Don't know the legality, but don't think it's illegal, just creative financing. Likely, I don't know, just grasping at straws.
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I beginning to believe the UTAD is SOOL but I will be patient until the EHOAC. Sure HWHBDA. :eek:lol:
 
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VFLnSFD said:
Very possibly. But the Beav didn't actually mention that the vc was providing funding, just research opportunities. Entirely possible that he just left that part out though.
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Research opportunities need funding. They go hand in hand.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
I'm trying to respect all theories, but the Corker and venture capital stuff is pushing the limits of my capacity for belief.
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People making wild and illogical leaps and skips to conclusions in the face of no evidence.

It is entertaining, but has made any attempt to actually get real info from this thread a waste of time.
 
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EZE said:
Research opportunities need funding. They go hand in hand.
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Universities win research contracts which are funded by whoever is benefiting not by the university.

Real world experience for students that doesn't cost the university.
 
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VFLnSFD said:
Universities win research contracts which are funded by whoever is benefiting not by the university.

Real world experience for students that doesn't cost the university.
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Right, but the money has to come from somewhere.
 
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The VC angle would also allow for possible inter-school cooperations. Working with an Ivy league school or schools would help foster the academia's want to be the Ivy league of the south.
 
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EZE said:
Right, but the money has to come from somewhere.
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It comes from the company needing the research. That's why a vc can funnel the opportunities. They are funding the venture, so they get some say in who does the research.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
I'm trying to respect all theories, but the Corker and venture capital stuff is pushing the limits of my capacity for belief.
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Google “Castor Ventures”. See if that helps you believe. Hint: read the bottom of the page in the dark area. See if that helps convince you of the truth being brought on this board.
 
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The university's benefit from VC partnership doesn't have to be all (or even primarily) straight monetary. Brand exposure, novel opportunities to attract students, others. Plus, perception of being at the forefront of creative partnerships would be huge for the University's image.
 
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VFLnSFD said:
I think we are having a misunderstanding due to text vs verbal.

It looks like we are on the same page.
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Yes. I can see where a VC firm (or any other firm for that matter) with research opportunities and associated funding would be attractive to the academic side of the University.
 
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