Official Jon Gruden Thread XXIX

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Question....

If butch really is such a bad guy (tend to believe it), and a lot of people have said “wait til he’s gone and all the bad stories come out.”

Why are they keeping it secret now? Why don’t the players say something? Why don’t they go to the AD? Just seems weird that people say “oh he’s a bad dude, but no one wants to tell any stories.

Anyone have any insight?
 
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DuckRiverVol said:
He has built quite a staff, but I highly doubt they stay at a small school for very much longer.
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I agree. Kiffin brother Chris (Former Ole Miss) is on that staff too and Clint Trickett (former FSU coach) and some others too. Kiffin completely turn around FAU very fast after starting slow in just his first year. FAU IS 6-3 now and 5-0 conference and already bowl eligible.

Former Canes HC Butch Davis is turning around FIU down in Miami too and doing a good job in such a little time 6-2 record and also bowl eligible.
 
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Legendary said:
FYI long post incoming:

I had no idea before this coaching search how many people I knew from mutual friends or family friends. Now I’m from chattanooga, born and raised and becoming more active in the community as I’ve gotten older. There truly is a movement here in chattanooga of boosters that were once low level who are now moving to mid tier. I had no idea how much money was around here and many of them congregate at the Honors and local political gatherings and are involved in a multiple businesses as investors or board members.

1. Heard from another family friend today that Hullco who is close to fulmer is pushing for Gruden.
2. Barry large who sold a logistics company is valued anywhere from 50-100 million and he and his family bleed orange. I’ve now heard he’s pushing Gruden and is working with other boosters to make sure this deal doesn’t fall through.
3. My super close family friend who works with the Luptons said they are still pushing for Gruden and thinks it’s happening. Actually he doesn’t seem in the least bit worried which makes me even more confident.

All 3 of these people know one other and that’s no coincidence. Two of these men know Peyton and have even golfed with him at the honors a time or two.

I’m not an insider but I’ve been investigating and reaching out to friends and getting anyone to talk that’s willing and if not I keep trying. Luckily several of these convos over the last few weeks have been run ins so it’s more difficult to lie or ignore someone when it’s in person compared to the phone or texting.

With all that I’ve pieced together on top of what message board insiders are saying across the board I think all the information which has been a few weeks behind is now starting to come to light. (I believe one poster confirmed this before) I did ask one of my contacts about Gruden and if there was any truth about wanting to be respectful about a coach who is currently not fired. He responded that’s why there has been a lot of smoke bc Gruden does NOT want to be viewed or portrayed as a guy who’s trying to remove a sitting coach.

One told me the smart money placed bets weeks ago. That seems to be true as well. I wish I had listened a month ago. Anyways hope we can have a VN get together and celebrate once this is over!
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Wish I could have met you this afternoon. You obviously have done your homework.

Maybe next time.
 
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VFLnSFD said:
Mr. SFD is the most patient man I know. He has watched me look at my phone a lot over the last few weeks.
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Explain, please, I'm just joining this crazy and fun string of threads about Gruden being our next head coach.

You are a VFL in SFD, but there's someone separate from you named Mr. SFD. Right? So who is that, and how does he relate to your user name?

On behalf of the curious, thanks :)
 
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CeJayVols said:
yes sorry for the misspell. Redington is nice beach too and where I normally go. You can find parking more easier there than Clearwater Beach which is always jam packed and no parking.
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Agree on the parking. Clearwater sucks on that front and charges you to park almost anywhere.

For my money, if "prettiest beach" is defined by the water color/clarity and sand texture/color, then for Florida, it's Destin, Anna Maria Island, and for an Atlantic flavor, Ft. Lauderdale.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
Explain, please, I'm just joining this crazy and fun string of threads about Gruden being our next head coach.

You are a VFL in SFD, but there's someone separate from you named Mr. SFD. Right? So who is that, and how does he relate to your user name?

On behalf of the curious, thanks :)
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I'm generally known around here as SFD. So I call my husband Mr. SFD.
 
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NAILS said:
Wow! No afternoon meltdown. Yet.

Go Vols
Hire Gruden
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VOL 4 Life 83 said:
Question....

If butch really is such a bad guy (tend to believe it), and a lot of people have said “wait til he’s gone and all the bad stories come out.”

Why are they keeping it secret now? Why don’t the players say something? Why don’t they go to the AD? Just seems weird that people say “oh he’s a bad dude, but no one wants to tell any stories.

Anyone have any insight?
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Probably the rumors that we've been hearing all along that the AD has denied (hitting players, instigating fights, bullying staff, ect)
 
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CeJayVols said:
I agree. Kiffin brother Chris (Former Ole Miss) is on that staff too and Clint Trickett (former FSU coach) and some others too. Kiffin completely turn around FAU very fast after starting slow in just his first year. FAU IS 6-3 now and 5-0 conference and already bowl eligible.

Former Canes HC Butch Davis is turning around FIU down in Miami too and doing a good job in such a little time 6-2 record and also bowl eligible.
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They're far superior coaches than the others around them. What did you expect.
 
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CeJayVols said:
I agree. Kiffin brother Chris (Former Ole Miss) is on that staff too and Clint Trickett (former FSU coach) and some others too. Kiffin completely turn around FAU very fast after starting slow in just his first year. FAU IS 6-3 now and 5-0 conference and already bowl eligible.

Former Canes HC Butch Davis is turning around FIU down in Miami too and doing a good job in such a little time 6-2 record and also bowl eligible.
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Kiffin also has Kendal Briles as OC
 
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So was the rumor that McDaniels was going to be the new head coach or that he was going to be the new OC?
 
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SHOWOFF said:
I hadn't heard that one till this morning. That one is for sure a head scratcher.
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You know that Ron Zook was on Johnny Major's staff (DB coach) at Tennessee in 1986 at the same time as Gruden was a GA on the same staff. Apparently, Majors really thought highly of Zook.

If you watch the video of the UT-Miami Sugar Bowl linked below, you can catch glimpses of Zook and several references to him (see right around the 1:30:00 mark). Also note who posted said video.

1985 # 8 Tennessee vs # 2 Miami - YouTube
 
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