Official Jon Gruden Thread XLIV

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aredfox28 said:
Whos better than him out there, that we can get? Not being a jerk or anything.. just asking.
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I don't know who we could get. You don't even know if you could get him. Have you not seen his tweets laughing and mocking us?

I'd take Les Miles before Lane Kiffin. All. Day. Long. And I don't want Les Miles.
 
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aaronvol said:
I am not saying that Schiano was a good hire. I don't at all. You can't touch a person who was involved with PSU during those years and not think it will come up. What I am saying is that we have unfortunately created a narrative that the reason we said "NO" to the hire is that we are morally upright...when in truth the main reason we were all angry is that the hire was horrible for a variety of reasons.
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Look, I don't want to be rude, so please don't take this the wrong way...but if you can't see that this was THE reason for all the tweets, emails, involvement of elected officials, and general outrage I don't know what to tell you. I'll add a hypothetical: fans would have been completely disappointed if Currie had trotted out an FCS coach, or even someone like Mike Stoops. Do you actually think things would've went like they did yesterday? I don't. At all. If you do, fine, but we'll just have to agree to disagree.
 
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Stevorino said:
I'm all about Gruden.... but isn't that his weakness as well? Actually running a college program? At least Tee has been an OC of a strong one (and runs #10 offense).
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everyone has weaknesses of course.

but you can't really compare a professional Super Bowl champion coach with someone who has NO head coaching experience.
 
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Christian Lowe said:
We got turned down for Duke. At this point, I think we may end up retaining Brady Hoke for at least a season
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Exactly what I’ve been saying. This fiasco is a serious black eye on the university and administration whether we want to believe it or not. I sent emails and signed the petitions too but I’m looking at this without my orange shades on and the national perception of this is an unprecedented revolt by fans that didn’t agree with a hire. Do any of you think any other decent coach is gonna take that same risk? This set us back years, maybe decades, or quite possibly killed this program. Fans did the right thing but this is not gonna end well.
 
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From Beav

Not surprised to see Haslam trying to deflect blame for this total disaster. It reminds me of a certain FBI investigation. Better hope no FBI agents on your case are TN fans, they might find a new witness.
 
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UTVolinExile liked this, it was kind of late in the previous thread this morning, so I thought I would post it again for those who didn't see it.

My guess (condensed version), based on info here, at what happened:

A group of boosters wanted Jon Gruden as coach. The Haslems, Currie and Davenport feigned support of the initiative. The booster group proceed to gauge Gruden's interest and what it would take to get him to UT. They came to general agreement over three weeks ago and even celebrated the agreement on Thursday in Dunwoody, GA two weeks ago. While legal matters were being worked out, the Haslems, Currie and Davenport were pursuing their own agenda to maintain complete control of UT athletics. The Haslems, thinking they alone know what is best for UT, were enamored with Schiano when he previously interviewed for the Browns coaching job(this was before the release of the previously sealed testimony of the Sandusky case implicating Schiano, thus the lack of due diligence on Schiano, because they had already vetted him). They thought he was a better fit for UT than Gruden. They knew they couldn't sell Schiano to the other boosters, so they kept Currie and Davenport on a short leash and thought they could have the deal done before the other boosters could do anything about it. Once announced, the other boosters would be obliged to support their new coach. It would have worked except a member of the AD staff leaked the deal to other boosters and they mobilized the support of the UT BOT and legislators and Currie was forced to back down--for the time being.
 
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FacelessArya said:
I hope they wanted him to go. But now they’re stuck with him. Why this man didn’t try to clear his name is beyond me. It’s been out there but now that we care, suddenly others care if we say anything about. Like they’re mad we brought it up. That, in itself, is shady.
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Yeah, that's the scary thing..... Currie wouldn't stand behind his choice. Wasn't Curries's choice.... Was Haslam's.

If this is the guy you want? DEFEND the cat!!!

Never happened.... (with good reason)

Currie folded like a cheap suit. Chump.

Fire Currie, Fire Davenport.

Clean house and let's start over again. No matter how hard it's going to be.
 
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FacelessArya said:
I hope they wanted him to go. But now they’re stuck with him. Why this man didn’t try to clear his name is beyond me. It’s been out there but now that we care, suddenly others care if we say anything about it. Like they’re mad we brought it up. That, in itself, is shady.
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You know, it's not just the Penn State thing.

The man is not a good coach. Has the idiot media even stopped to think that perhaps it's a combination of completely undesirable traits that had Volnation in an uproar?

Again, why aren't they whining about UF passing him over? Why isn't be being mentioned in the ATM job opening? Arizona State? Moo State?

We were looking at Butch 2.0 with him at the helm.
 
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5FingerVolPunch said:
D. Mcnabb on ESPN radio said after this debacle UT is last on the list of all open jobs. That’s why people are saying Tee. Because he might actually say yes. The big splash hires aren’t gonna happen now. JMO.
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I don't think it will matter who the Vols hire for next years team, they may be lucky to win 2 games and that's not being facetious :banghead2:
 
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