Official Jon Gruden Thread XIV

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Gruden will never acknowledge because he doesn't want to be on record for having turned down Tennessee personally. Hart will never acknowledge because he doesn't want to be on record for Tennessee being rejected. IMO, if it never happens, it will be as if it never did.
 
I heard from a source he's been in his office everyday, all day, with the door shut, and the janitor has said when he leaves at night, the trash and floor are full of tissues. Not sure what this means, but TIFWIW

Cronic masterbation IMO. :rock:
 
If Hart gets Fisher I will be pissed. Look at all the talent FSU has and had and what's in their back yard. I don't think he has made it to BCS game in weak ACC with that talent.

overreact much?

Fisher is a solid coach. He has been on the job three years, if he beats Georgia Tech today he will AVERAGE 10 wins a season (FSU hasn't had a ten win season since 2003). I think his record against the SEC is 3-1, with two of those wins coming against Florida and one against South Carolina.

Fisher might be just what the doctor ordered...
 
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If Hart gets Fisher I will be pissed. Look at all the talent FSU has and had and what's in their back yard. I don't think he has made it to BCS game in weak ACC with that talent.

Losses over the past three (3) years to the likes of NC State x2, North Carolina, Wake Forest and Virginia (all unranked) is worrisome.
 
Gruden will never acknowledge because he doesn't want to be on record for having turned down Tennessee personally. Hart will never acknowledge because he doesn't want to be on record for Tennessee being rejected. IMO, if it never happens, it will be as if it never did.

Respectfully:
Why do we all assume Gruden cares so much about what we think of him if rejects us personally? What does it matter to the rest of his career?

Not a shot at all, I just want to know why we all think he's so concerned with what we think of him. It's not as if he needs to leave the door open for coaching here in the future.
 
Just in case you have doubts...and although you may have been kidding, please do not associate me with being racist...EVER.

I respect everyone on an equal level til proven differently. Thank you

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Nice sunglasses, Jake. :)

And I'm still in until someone else is named HFC at UT.
 
This is from LonzoVol (Big Orange Report writer, Warner Agee) from TOS.

Sounds like there is a big divide between Dave Hart and the boosters. Can Hart survive long term if this is true?

Hart's a$$ need to go now !!!!!!!!
 
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Why do we all assume Gruden cares so much about what we think of him if rejects us personally? What does it matter to the rest of his career?

Not a shot at all, I just want to know why we all think he's so concerned with what we think of him. It's not as if he needs to leave the door open for coaching here in the future.


IMO, the guy has PERSONAL ties here and has always stated that he loves UT and its football program.

Enough for me to think that the guy wouldn't do anything to disparage us.

IMO of course.

Edit: And what I mean by "disparage" is the comments by his Agent "fantasy land". This comment alone is one reason I don't think things are over. Just doesn't make sense to me.
 
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overreact much?

Fisher is a solid coach. He has been on the job three years, if he beats Georgia Tech today he will AVERAGE 10 wins a season (FSU hasn't had a ten win season since 2003). I think his record against the SEC is 3-1, with two of those wins coming against Florida and one against South Carolina.

Fisher might be just what the doctor ordered...

My concern would he be able to recruit here. He recruits very well at fsu but it is much easier at FSU.
 
Why does everyone keep harping about the control issues that Gruden would of wanted? If I was hart I would be glad to give up some control. If gruden came in and sucked, Hart could say, well I had nothing to do with it. If anything it would be Hart having a get out of jail free card.

What if Gruden wanted to be the de facto AD for football operations and Hart would be the AD for all the other sports?

Would you still fault Hart for saying no?
 
Respectfully:
Why do we all assume Gruden cares so much about what we think of him if rejects us personally? What does it matter to the rest of his career?

Not a shot at all, I just want to know why we all think he's so concerned with what we think of him. It's not as if he needs to leave the door open for coaching here in the future.

because his wife is an alum
 
He's 40!!!!!

Why haven't we considered baylor's coach, he has pulled baylor out of the crapper the last few years.

Pretty sure Art Briles coached Branndon Stewart in high school... bridge burned there? Probably not since Branndon transferred because there was no chance he would ever beat Peyton out.

I like Briles, I believe he makes between $2-3 million at Baylor. 4th season at Baylor, may be ready to step up to the challenge of the SEC.
 
overreact much?

Fisher is a solid coach. He has been on the job three years, if he beats Georgia Tech today he will AVERAGE 10 wins a season (FSU hasn't had a ten win season since 2003). I think his record against the SEC is 3-1, with two of those wins coming against Florida and one against South Carolina.

Fisher might be just what the doctor ordered...

I think Fisher is a Mark Richt type of coach. He is having a ton of early success at FSU and then he will probably drop down to being a coach that sprinkles some 6 win years in and having a few ten win seasons. Sad thing is, with his team and talent he should be undefeated going into UF game every year.
 
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Why do we all assume Gruden cares so much about what we think of him if rejects us personally? What does it matter to the rest of his career?

Not a shot at all, I just want to know why we all think he's so concerned with what we think of him. It's not as if he needs to leave the door open for coaching here in the future.

Yeah, this. Don't think Gruden really cares if our feelings are hurt. Tennessee is frankly not relevant nationally now (sadly) and ESPN will continue to portray our anger or whatever as a butthurt, delusional, myopic SEC fan base
 
Pretty sure Art Briles coached Branndon Stewart in high school... bridge burned there? Probably not since Branndon transferred because there was no chance he would ever beat Peyton out.

I like Briles, I believe he makes between $2-3 million at Baylor. 4th season at Baylor, may be ready to step up to the challenge of the SEC.

I'm pretty sure Hyams said Briles is on UT's watch list
 
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