Official Jon Gruden Thread XIV

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This is from LonzoVol (Big Orange Report writer, Warner Agee) from TOS.

Sounds like there is a big divide between Dave Hart and the boosters. Can Hart survive long term if this is true?

How about this synopsis:

The "Blood Bath" occurred on Wednesday between AD and BTB (Big Time Boosters). I'm not sure that they can be repaired. It will be interesting so see how much financial support will be offered to the next candidate.
I'm not sure what you know, but is there any truth to a meeting between only Hart (no boosters present and without their knowledge) and JG/Lamonte....immediately after Gruden would no longer take calls from anyone affiliated with Tennessee.

Same person told me Hart was against the Gruden hire from the beginning and was furious that contact had been made before Dooley was fired. Also, before thanksgiving, boosters went over Harts head to Cheek and got him fully on board 100%....the 18 million resulted from this.

Also, the week leading up to Alabama, three prominent boosters met with Gruden face to face and got a verbal agreement. A few days later six boosters agreed to finance Gruden's salary, the current staff's buyout. The only thing the University would be responsible for was Gruden's staff and a few of their buyouts from other schools. Boosters wanted Dooley canned following SC loss but Hart was still wanting to bring him back for a fourth season. After Troy and Hart still refusing to make a decision, two of the six boosters dropped out of the financial agreement.

Heard all of this from the same person. I have confirmed some of it with a few people that know more than me. Haven't wanted to drop such specific details but I don't think it really matters anymore.
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#4,103
#4,103
Can we all move our crew over to maybe the:

Search Squad Fanatics Thread, pt.1 (or whatever)

Simply put, I'm ready to move on in our search and let Gruden have his "peace" and his "NFL". That made more sense to begin with considering the coaches he has supposedly been conversing with. I hope he does a lot better than how he ended his last streak.

We can always get it back if given the reason
 
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Jake said:
It's never over til its over...however, my energy level is to the point that I'd rather be distracted by talk of other coaches and be totally surprised by a Gruden hire...as it occurred in Tuscaloosa
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That's pretty much my feelings too.
 
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bcartervol98 said:
A lot of truth in this in my opinion.
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Still haven't gotten any word about went down. But through this whole thing I've been hearing what was coming from assoc ADs while watching this unfold. They never ever really knew what was going on. I find it hard to believe they all of the sudden have the skinny about the issues that made the deal fall through when they were never privy to the process in the first place.
 
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^ If all that about Hart from TOS is true, I can't imagine a scenario where he stays here very long.
 
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Well I must say it has been Interesting. I know how everyone must feel about now. I am going to remain in the Gruden until I see a different Coach announced. Am I living a Pipe Dream? Maybe, but its my damn dream. Too many OG were sure of this so long. I think we are being Played by UT. If I am wrong, well I've been wrong before. I will hang a Grand Daughters Ken Doll as punishment. THANKS FOR ALL YOUR INPUT AND i SIMPLY CHOOSE TO BELIEVE. THE 'LOS.
 
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CookieVol;7878674]Hope it was shut up

I appreciate all the info from insiders, but looking back it may have been counterproductive.
 
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I just want UT to be back on top of college athletics again... I want to return to the days when I could wear my colors and other fans would cringe in fear because I was a part of the big orange nation, a symbol of the team that crushes all their team's dreams
 
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you would think that if hart f'd this up someone would be firing him right now, if gruden was actually in play. Or hes waiting to announce him
 
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Tux said:
This is from LonzoVol (Big Orange Report writer, Warner Agee) from TOS.

Sounds like there is a big divide between Dave Hart and the boosters. Can Hart survive long term if this is true?
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Heart should be gone Dec 1 IMO
 
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Tux said:
This is from LonzoVol (Big Orange Report writer, Warner Agee) from TOS.

Sounds like there is a big divide between Dave Hart and the boosters. Can Hart survive long term if this is true?
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if this is true Harts needs to be escorted from the building then whipped all the way home
 
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Coastypop said:
Sorry man... I will hope for a miracle, and we get Gruden....

But to much out there now... looks like that is what it will take to get Gruden now... A MIRACLE
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I agree. I still think that it could happen. Very, very small chance. I don't believe it will be Strong though. He already makes 3+ million at Louisville and I think they'll match what ever we offer up to a point meaning it will take close to $5 to get him. I don't believe we'll pay that for him. We may pay 5 but it won't be for him. JMO
 
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Tux said:
This is from LonzoVol (Big Orange Report writer, Warner Agee) from TOS.

Sounds like there is a big divide between Dave Hart and the boosters. Can Hart survive long term if this is true?
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Call me naive, but Would Hart put his job on the line like this? What's it to him who the Boosters want, if they are footing most of the bill? The only scenario that even works for me (IF this is true) would be that there were too many leaks and Hart/agent devised a plan to shut everyone up by saying it is all over, while waiting for the time to announce.

And that doesn't work for me, because I don't know why Gruden would even need to stall?
 
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Why are we even discussing this? This program has to sell out a huge stadium pronto. It has to recruit 4,5 sta athletes immediately. It has to go from cellar to contender immediately. Why are we even discussing this?!?

If we are within a million on this package, I'm sorry... AD Hart doesn't understand what's at stake, and should be terminated immediately. If that's what separates us and he can't garner that support...even if for the benefit of the Knoxville area economy alone...he needs to go. Gov. Haslam should step in. You don't think kKnoxville needs this too?! Imagine another few years of this, and see how that goes!

Gruden: Winner. Aggressive, Super Bowl winning coach. Widely recognized, marketable name that can bring in more licensing revenues, attention, visibility for our program.

You think Alabama, given the same chance..or Michigan or Notre Dame or USC wouldn't find a WH to get this done?! If the AD can't find a way to bring in sponsors, make this work, in a once in a lifetime shot....then maybe we need to find ourselves someone who can.
 
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Tux said:
This is from LonzoVol (Big Orange Report writer, Warner Agee) from TOS.

Sounds like there is a big divide between Dave Hart and the boosters. Can Hart survive long term if this is true?

Quote:
How about this synopsis:

The "Blood Bath" occurred on Wednesday between AD and BTB (Big Time Boosters). I'm not sure that they can be repaired. It will be interesting so see how much financial support will be offered to the next candidate.
I'm not sure what you know, but is there any truth to a meeting between only Hart (no boosters present and without their knowledge) and JG/Lamonte....immediately after Gruden would no longer take calls from anyone affiliated with Tennessee.

Same person told me Hart was against the Gruden hire from the beginning and was furious that contact had been made before Dooley was fired. Also, before thanksgiving, boosters went over Harts head to Cheek and got him fully on board 100%....the 18 million resulted from this.

Also, the week leading up to Alabama, three prominent boosters met with Gruden face to face and got a verbal agreement. A few days later six boosters agreed to finance Gruden's salary, the current staff's buyout. The only thing the University would be responsible for was Gruden's staff and a few of their buyouts from other schools. Boosters wanted Dooley canned following SC loss but Hart was still wanting to bring him back for a fourth season. After Troy and Hart still refusing to make a decision, two of the six boosters dropped out of the financial agreement.

Heard all of this from the same person. I have confirmed some of it with a few people that know more than me. Haven't wanted to drop such specific details but I don't think it really matters anymore.​
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OK, I read these identical thoughts here on VN yesterday.

It's like these sportswriters and bloggers are just lifting VN content.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
I agree. I still think that it could happen. Very, very small chance. I don't believe it will be Strong though. He already makes 3+ million at Louisville and I think they'll match what ever we offer up to a point meaning it will take close to $5 to get him. I don't believe we'll pay that for him. We may pay 5 but it won't be for him. JMO
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Would you be willing to pay 4 or 4.5 for strong?
 
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JDogInDaHouse said:
Why cause he is black? You scared of black people Jake? :)
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Just in case you have doubts...and although you may have been kidding, please do not associate me with being racist...EVER.

I respect everyone on an equal level til proven differently. Thank you

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Get his tatter picking Al.Azz out of here.Make David Blackburn the ad .Then hire the coach we deserve.I am sick and tired of not being to at least compete.Its total BS that a school with our money and traditon has to accept this crap.Do it now enough is enough.
 
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JCP201 said:
Call me naive, but Would Hart put his job on the line like this? What's it to him who the Boosters want, if they are footing most of the bill? The only scenario that even works for me (IF this is true) would be that there were too many leaks and Hart/agent devised a plan to shut everyone up by saying it is all over, while waiting for the time to announce.

And that doesn't work for me, because I don't know why Gruden would even need to stall?
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1. Been mulling over the same thing

2. Tampa Bay check and Commitment to MNF.

If we are guaranteed Gruden I'm completely ok with being hired in January, like satan was.
 
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Jeffco said:
Why are we even discussing this? This program has to sell out a huge stadium pronto. It has to recruit 4,5 sta athletes immediately. It has to go from cellar to contender immediately. Why are we even discussing this?!?

If we are within a million on this package, I'm sorry... AD Hart doesn't understand what's at stake, and should be terminated immediately. If that's what separates us and he can't garner that support...even if for the benefit of the Knoxville area economy alone...he needs to go. Gov. Haslam should step in. You don't think kKnoxville needs this too?! Imagine another few years of this, and see how that goes!

Gruden: Winner. Aggressive, Super Bowl winning coach. Widely recognized, marketable name that can bring in more licensing revenues, attention, visibility for our program.

You think Alabama, given the same chance..or Michigan or Notre Dame or USC wouldn't find a WH to get this done?! If the AD can't find a way to bring in sponsors, make this work, in a once in a lifetime shot....then maybe we need to find ourselves someone who can.
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you singin to tha choir bra. I feel ur pain long live gru
 
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