Official Jon Gruden Thread XIII

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tvols75 said:
Some people don't want to believe it, but:

Gruden's offensive philosophy is complex. We saw what his defensive buddy at TB did with his complex defense in the NCAA.

Gruden is a control freak. Tampa Bay gave him everything he wanted after the SB, and he did a bunch of dumb things.

Gruden is regarded as this QB guru, yet he played musical chairs at TB because all these QBs he thought highly of ended up awful.
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Yes, read some of that stuff that his players said right before he was fired. Rich Gannon hated him. I think it was Derrick Brooks who hated him. I think Jon has an inflated opinion of himself for a 95-82 record. He got fired for a good reason.

He should have said no two weeks ago, so we could already have a guy in place.
 
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voldawgforever said:
Boros a big boy, fella. He answers his. Thanks tho.


:hi:
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He may be, but he said he is 100% through the announcement. If everyone believes him, why do they have to keep asking? My problem isn't with Boro, it's with the whiney babies that need their pacifier for some reassurance. He isn't wavering until a coach is signed.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
I am not going to believe anything until Hart trots out someone else. Simple as that. I refuse to believe the OGs have been given bad info. The only conclusion I can come to is that Gruden has been playing the people that have been negotiating with him. I find this hard to belive too. I can't imagine him jerking around the Haslems and Peyton.
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Why, He's the Ad and not Peyton or the booster's. The OG's got that Peyton/booster info but it was worthless to our AD for reasons we dont know.
 
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I still concur something odd is going on:

1. Gruden backed out at the 11th hour.

2. There is some internal rumbling going on between the UTAD and boosters.

3. Gruden is still coming, and the strangest misdirection campaign of all time is being conducted which will leave a lot of explaining to do behind closed doors.

At this point, I have no idea which of the three options is true, but I am concerned.
 
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Liper said:
I've read your posts, and have had nearly identical information as you. However, I was told last night by these same people at 10p that the deal was off. I didn't receive any details.

Then all of these conflicting media supports suggesting two camps leaking different information. I am not sure what to think now, bc as of yesterday afternoon I was full go Gruden.
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Thanks Liper........
 
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I am a "preponderance of evidence" kind of guy and do not like the way today is unfolding. By the end of the day today I am planning to take a firm stance. Logically speaking I can say I am no better then 50-50. Say what you want, the VQ article is very very bad and I read it as a quasi-press release. I expect UT to address it further today through an official release if the VQ story is spot on.

I haven't talked to anyone today but the mood among other believers at work is somber right now at best.
 
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I suggest print out each thread and burn this garbage. As expected these dudes trolled the tn fan base like randy Shannon garbage.
 
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bray8 said:
knoxville media and UT are pissed because stevn hargis outscooped them
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I lean this way ... no way the TFP runs this article in the sports section without some real solid info .. much less the FRONT FRECKIN PAGE ... no way the editor lets that happen unless its a solid source - now this source my be from the boosters side as suggested
 
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Hey just thought of something. Yesterday someone mentioned Gruden was a done deal, but Hart wanted to make the interview process look legitimate... Could this possibly be what he is doing?
 
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Been a member for a while...hardly ever post though. Been reading and following this thread for 2 weeks now non-stop. I want to pose a question for the OG's or anyone that been around for a bit...

If the Gruden deal has in fact fallen through, who would be the absolute best possible and most realistic candidate that we could pursue, that would not only succeed at UT, but also that us fans would accept? I'm trying to think of others beside Golden or Strong (which have been mentioned a lot) because I just don't think they could be the answer. I'm still all Gruden though until I hear from Hart or Gruden that's its not happening. I'll hang up and listen...
 
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Liper said:
I still concur something odd is going on:

1. Gruden backed out at the 11th hour.

2. There is some internal rumbling going on between the UTAD and boosters.

3. Gruden is still coming, and the strangest misdirection campaign of all time is being conducted which will leave a lot of explaining to do behind closed doors.

At this point, I have no idea which of the three options is true, but I am concerned.
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Some part of option 1...he just wants too much. We can not put all our eggs in that one basket. He ain't that trustworthy.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Boro, if this thing goes down the tubes will you and the other OGs know and be able to share the details of why it went south? I have been with you guys since G1 and don't plan to abandon you now. FWIW :hi:
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If this goes south, I would hang my "sources" out to dry.
 
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