Official Jon Gruden Thread V

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BruinVol said:
I disagree. If the university wants to upgrade the academic rep then that's great but the athletic programs need to be given a fair number of exceptions. Other universities work just like that
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I was just responding to the previous post about letting in an athlete with a lower score. I don't really know how exceptions to standardized test scores work in admitting an athlete, but I agree that if other universities have exceptions, then we should too. Even playing field and all that.
 
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fishing Vol said:
Grudnight all. Sam, Goat, have a good show. Looking forward to the 20 pages I'll be behind in the morning. To the "in the know" group, thank you for the long day of damage control. I'm going to sleep or going to get my son his Halo 4, then going to sleep.
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Goodnight home boy.
 
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landscapingvol said:
He is not coming. He was never coming. We are not going to pay a coach 5 million a year. Dooley probably will not be here unless he wins out, if he wins out he will be the coach next year in my opinion but there is still a lot of football to be played. He was never going to be fired in the middle of the season and an official(unofficially I have been told that it was already made)decision will not be made until the season is over meaning if we don't qualify for a bowl it is over. They will not fire him if we go to a bowl game because that would put his dismissal into January. If we don't qualify for a bowl then his fate has been sealed. Either way, you will know after the Kentucky game. Stop with the Cheek and Hart conspiracies, that is all they are.
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Sorry bro but you dont know more than any of the rest of us. I guarantee you if Gruden was to say he would take the job for 5 million UT would pay him that and whatever he needed for his staff. UT has plenty of wealthy boosters that could write a check tomor and pay him and his staff a lifetime contract. Im not saying he is or isnt coming but if you think UT wouldnt pay him 5 million then your insane. They would do it in a damn heartbeat.
 
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landscapingvol said:
He is not coming. He was never coming. We are not going to pay a coach 5 million a year. Dooley probably will not be here unless he wins out, if he wins out he will be the coach next year in my opinion but there is still a lot of football to be played. He was never going to be fired in the middle of the season and an official(unofficially I have been told that it was already made)decision will not be made until the season is over meaning if we don't qualify for a bowl it is over. They will not fire him if we go to a bowl game because that would put his dismissal into January. If we don't qualify for a bowl then his fate has been sealed. Either way, you will know after the Kentucky game. Stop with the Cheek and Hart conspiracies, that is all they are.
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Annnddd you know this how? Who is your source? I'm thinking it is ur arse because that is where u pulled this from!:dance: But seriously:


stfu.jpg
 
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Int'lVOLofMystery said:
I was just responding to the previous post about letting in an athlete with a lower score. I don't really know how exceptions to standardized test scores work in admitting an athlete, but I agree that if other universities have exceptions, then we should too. Even playing field and all that.
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I know for a fact schools like vandy and wake forest have exceptions allowing their programs to get a specified number of athletes in each year. IMO that could be done here unless there are some private/public NCAA rules i don't know about.

If separating the two is about coaching hires then that's great but I thought the vibe on here was that would help the admission process and I don't see that
 
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Good night all. I'll work on catching up the 20+ pages I'll be behind tomorrow morning.
 
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landscapingvol said:
it was a done deal, he was never coming
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You dont know that and if you think Dooley winning out with 80k fans average in attendance the last 3 games then again your crazy. Hart is calling the shots on this and Gruden may or may not come, but thinking a decision hasnt been made is loco. Go back to the bammer or gator board troll and quit acting like you have some sources and know what's going on. I have more sources than you and I have none!
 
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BruinVol said:
Help me understand something.

How does separating the ad and the academic side of things to be independent of each other help admitting theses kids that are NCAA eligible but haven't been admittable before under cheek????


I think I have read on here that the issue is
separating the two and I don't understand
how that helps unless cheek gives up his
high standard approach to
addmittance
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Agree with the last sentence.
 
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fishing Vol said:
Grudnight all. Sam, Goat, have a good show. Looking forward to the 20 pages I'll be behind in the morning. To the "in the know" group, thank you for the long day of damage control. I'm going to sleep or going to get my son his Halo 4, then going to sleep.
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Tune in at 7 for the airing.
 
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BruinVol said:
You have been following more than I have so maybe you understand.

Is the main issue the academic standards for admittance?

If so does seperating the ad from the rest of the university help that??
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It's two fold. The academic standards for admission, and relegating Cheek to the sidelines on this important hire. But yes academic standards for admittance
 
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BruinVol said:
I disagree. If the university wants to upgrade the academic rep then that's great but the athletic programs need to be given a fair number of exceptions. Other universities work just like that
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But guys like Cheek don't give exceptions very much and don't approve of coaches making $6 million a year. Eddrick Lofton was an example. You can either have a Chancellor who is accommodating, which Cheek is not, or remove his power as a final approval like GA or FL. If you remove the power then you don't have to worry about it, now or ever. Surely you remember Fulmer, Kiffin, and Dooley complaining about this? Also the chancellor will remain an obstacle in every coaching search if the AD has to have his approval. Which at least adds an unnecessary hurdle every time.
 
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BruinVol said:
Would seperating the two help with lessening the standards??
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From what's has been said, people seem to think so. I don't think it can, but this is FAR from my area of expertise. You seem to be really smart when it comes to these issues. Much more so than me. By a long shot at that.
 
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CWGvol said:
But guys like Cheek don't give exceptions very much and don't approve of coaches making $6 million a year. Eddrick Lofton was an example. You can either have a Chancellor who is accommodating, which Cheek is not, or remove his power as a final approval like GA or FL. If you remove the power then you don't have to worry about it, now or ever. Surely you remember Fulmer, Kiffin, and Dooley complaining about this? Also the chancellor will remain an obstacle in every coaching search if the AD has to have his approval. Which at least adds an unnecessary hurdle every time.
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I know he has hurt i understand that. That's not my question

How does seperating the ad and academic side of things stop cheek from keeping kids like loften out of school??
 
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Escape Goat said:
From what's has been said, people seem to think so. I don't think it can, but this is FAR from my area of expertise. You seem to be really smart when it comes to these issues. Much more so than me. By a long shot at that.
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It doesn't add up. Athletics doesnt have control of admissions either way. Being seperate isn't relevant IMO regarding admissions.
 
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Escape Goat said:
Bruin... oldVol breaks it down in the cliff notes thread.
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I just read it. Seperating the 2 would help with money and in coaching hires I understand fully and that's great. That needs to happen IMO but more importantly the academic side of things needs to improve. The only solution is cheek changes or is replace with a proper minded leader.
 
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